Both could and should have been called and would have led to 15 yard auto 1st down regardless of the when the fumble happened/who recovered/and how far they ran it back
Wrong, already debunked this thoroughly and you offered no counter argument, here ill repost so that you concede you have no counter argument by just telling me im wrong and running away again
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"1. There was only one facemask, the first 'facemask' had no grab, therefore meaning no facemask under current rules.
2. A facemask would only cause an auto 1st down for the O, IF the facemask came BEFORE the turnover. The facemask coming AFTER the turnover, means that all it would negate is the return.
Thats why when holding occurs after a pick six (by the intercepting team) it only negates the return, not the actual INT itself."
Now you will again concede you have no argument to either of these points by refusing to actually respond with anything other then telling me im wrong. Go ahead, concede defeat again by not responding.
Everyone watch, he is going to tell me im wrong without giving any form of counter argumentation to the above points (just like before), thus conceding that he cannot and that I win