***OFFICIAL*** IGT: Bears @ Vikings (Matt Nagy's Last Stand (or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Waited to Watch Them Fire The Bum) Edition)

[onebud34]

What would you say if Monty was stopped short on all plays in question. When they went for it on
Ike th 1 or 2 and he took a sack that really pissed me off.

Toss Tonga in there as the lead blocker in the I formation...

Dalton gave them decent field position with that sack too. It's like he was doing the Fat Man's Russ Wilson scramble drill. Get out of the tackle box and throw it away. Give them the ball at the 2, not near the 20. At least Nagy went down slappin with those bonehead calls

 

[remydat]

I said Daltons stupidity does not erase Fields.. where in that statement did I say that you claimed that Dalton taking a sack means Fields doing it is ok? like your strawman argument?

The funny thing here is you accuse me of making a strawman argument against you by making a strawman argument against me lol

No silly I am saying you bringing that up out of the blue when no one mentioned Fields implies that I said it.

Why bring it up? No one said it did so it has nothing to do with anything I said. What were you trying to achieve in bringing it up to me when I never claimed it?

 

[dbldrew]

It wasnt a 0.3% pick 6 chance. Bears were not close to stoping it so the fact is given how it unfolded that is a pick six most times.

That ball gets picked like 90% of the time and returned for a TD like 75% of the time because it was that bad. It would be different if he threw it on the sidelines or where onky his guy had a chanxe but he literally threw it where really only the Vikes had a chance to catch it.

please share where you got your numbers

 

[remydat]

please share where you got your numbers

Where did you get the 0.3%?

90% is generous for Dalton. That is as easy a pick as you can get in the NFL as the WR had virtually zero chance of catching it or breaking it up.

So you are just counting on Patrick Peterson dropping it. I could catch that Int.

 

[dbldrew]

No silly I am saying you bringing that up out of the blue when no one mentioned Fields implies that I said it.

Why bring it up? No one said it did so it has nothing to do with anything I said. What were you trying to achieve in bringing it up to me when I never claimed it?

You reading into a statement that I made in no way constitutes a strawman argument..

 

[dbldrew]

Where did you get the 0.3%?

90% is generous for Dalton. That is as easy a pick as you can get in the NFL as the WR had virtually zero chance of catching it or breaking it up.

So you are just counting on Patrick Peterson dropping it. I could catch that Int.

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1. Brett Favre (32), 2. Matthew Stafford (30), 3. Dan Marino (29), 4. Joe Namath (28), 5. Drew Brees (27),

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[onebud34]

It wasnt a 0.3% pick 6 chance. Bears were not close to stoping it so the fact is given how it unfolded that is a pick six most times.

That ball gets picked like 90% of the time and returned for a TD like 75% of the time because it was that bad. It would be different if he threw it on the sidelines or where onky his guy had a chanxe but he literally threw it where really only the Vikes had a chance to catch it.

He's using the Matt Nagy Failed Analytics theory

 

[truthbedamned]

Where did you get the 0.3%?

90% is generous for Dalton. That is as easy a pick as you can get in the NFL as the WR had virtually zero chance of catching it or breaking it up.

So you are just counting on Patrick Peterson dropping it. I could catch that Int.

Bears quit on that play IMO

 

[onebud34]

Bears quit on that play IMO

That was the team all 2nd half. Once Peterson jumped in front of the pass, he was going to house it. It was like the old Cutty days.

 

[remydat]

You reading into a statement that I made in no way constitutes a strawman argument..

That doesnt answer the question. What was the point of bringing up a point no one argued against?

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The topic was Dalton sucking. You brought up something that had nothing to do with Dalton. So you were arguing a point no one made. A straw man does not require you claim I said it. All that is required is for you to bring up something no one said and then attempt to refute it which is what you did.

 

[dbldrew]

That doesnt answer the question. What was the point of bringing up a point no one argued against?

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The topic was Dalton sucking. You brought up something that had nothing to do with Dalton. So you were arguing a point no one made. A straw man does not require you claim I said it. All that is required is for you to bring up something no one said and then attempt to refute it which is what you did.

The topic wasnt Dalton sucking the topic at least with our interaction was Dalton taking a sack on 4th down, So me comparing 2 QB in the same situation making the same mistake and making a statement about it is not a strawman argument. Literally every thread that is talking about an nfl player has comparisons to other nfl players. Thats what happens in sports message boards.

The only strawman argument made with our interaction was the one you made towards me..

Remy you're off your game tonight, did you have a few drinks during the game or something?

 

[Britbuffguy]

Bears quit on that play IMO

I didn't see the game and wow, Dalton for sure did. He just sat there crying, didn't even make an attempt to move for a TD saving tackle. Glad his ass is now off this team.

 

[remydat]

The topic wasnt Dalton sucking the topic at least with our interaction was Dalton taking a sack on 4th down, So me comparing 2 QB in the same situation making the same mistake and making a statement about it is not a strawman argument. Literally every thread that is talking about an nfl player has comparisons to other nfl players. Thats what happens in sports message boards.

The only strawman argument made with our interaction was the one you made towards me..

Remy you're off your game tonight, did you have a few drinks during the game or something?

What does Fields have to do with Dalton taking a sack? Again my comment to you was seeking comment about Dalton taking a dumb sack because I know you hate that.

You then took it upon yourself to bring up someone no one was talking about and then refute an argument no one made.

It is telling you felt the need to invoke Fields when the topic was Dalton. Never mentioned other people's fuck ups when the topic was Fields.

 

[onebud34]

I didn't see the game and wow, Dalton for sure did. He just sat there crying, didn't even make an attempt to move for a TD saving tackle. Glad his ass is now off this team.

Yeah, his playcaller did him no favors today. But him just standing there talking to a D-Linemen as Peterson waltz's into the endzone is beyond odd.

Remember this was the guy who was named the starter in training camp.

 

[dbldrew]

What does Fields have to do with Dalton taking a sack? Again my comment to you was seeking comment about Dalton taking a dumb sack because I know you hate that.

what did Josh Allen have to do with the Fields and Trubisky comparison that you brought up in the thread about Fields and Trubisky? nobody made any mention of Allen.. so where you just making a strawman argument? Or where you just using another player for comparison?

You then took it upon yourself to bring up someone no one was talking about and then refute an argument no one made.

this here is another strawman argument from you with you claiming I was refuting an argument no one made.

I made a statement nothing more.. It would really be better Remy if you avoided the strawman arguments

It is telling you felt the need to invoke Fields when the topic was Dalton. Never mentioned other people's fuck ups when the topic was Fields.

Is Dalton the future of the Bears or is Fields? The fact that you are more interested in talking about a QB that will never play a down for the Bears again is telling..

Again Remy this is not your best work.. get some sleep and take another shot tomorrow

 

[onebud34]

Is Dalton the future of the Bears or is Fields? The fact that you are more interested in talking about a QB that will never play a down for the Bears again is telling..

It's as if you're doubling down on your strawman. Not up for debate on whom is the future QB.

 

[Nail Polish]

Yeah, his playcaller did him no favors today. But him just standing there talking to a D-Linemen as Peterson waltz's into the endzone is beyond odd.

Remember this was the guy who was named the starter in training camp.

Similar to Jackson standing at the 1 YL and watching the pass fly over his head into the arms of the receiver waiting in the end zone

 

[onebud34]

Similar to Jackson standing at the 1 YL and watching the pass fly over his head into the arms of the receiver waiting in the end zone

He starts the season with a brain fart...ends the season with a brain fart. I'd like the 2017-18 Jackson to return.

Bring Donatell back just to keep these kids in check

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1480243494396612613

 

[onebud34]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1480243494396612613

The only silver lining is that Dalton absorbed some of the beating that Fields would've taken.