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**** Cleveland for those "SCOTTIE PIPPEN" chants.
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I don't understand what the whole uproar is about...why should Cleveland show love to Scottie Pippen? He was a popular and talented sidekick...what did you all want people to chant? "Lou-ie Geh-rig"???
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It's not the matter of Cleveland should show love to Pippen... it is the matter of not chanting his name at a player as an insult. It was extremely disrespectful of someone irrelevant to that entire situation.
Don't be naive... they wanted blood from LeBron. They obviously aren't big enough idiots to think that LeBron is a bad player. They were chanting "Scottie Pippen" at him as an insult. They also chanted "sidekick" at him... they didn't need to bring up a player as great as Pippen (6 rings and 8 conference Finals' appearances).
Obviously LeBron James is a more dominant player than Pippen. But he is a clown and lacks the killer instinct that some of the other great players (best player/team leader or not) possess.
I am willing to bet that if James was on the Bulls from 1991-1998 instead of Pippen, they would not have won all 6 of those titles. There are plenty of skills and abilities that Pippen brought to the table which LeBron did not: outstanding defense, more consistent shooting being, and a high/lost-post game being a few.
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After reading this...I ain't the one being naive...believe that.
A little advice bruh...get out of the betting business, you won't last long.
Lebron is a good defender, though not as good as Pippen, in my opinion, nobody was as good a perimeter defender as Pippen. But Lebron was a much better scorer...if people are predicting 70 wins for the Heat before the season started based on talent...what do you think Lebron would have done with Jordan?
By the way, I know it was meant as an insult to Lebron more than Pippen. Pippen is famous for being a sidekick while Lebron is the most talented player in NBA history in my opinion. Lebron has the talent to be the best ever but he is settling for less. Pippen never had anywhere close to that amount of talent or ability.
While I disagree with you, I understand your point. But remember, Scottie had a chance to be the main guy and almost destroyed his career in Chicago. That said, your analysis of Pippen/Lebron is very inaccurate and very, very wrong.
Lebron WANTS to share the responsibility, it seems to me he would have gladly given space to the greatest player ever. I don't think that would have been a problem. Scottie could do some things better than Jordan, ballhandling for one. I think Lebron could easily take over that role as he has taken the point forward position to heights not seen before.
I know some of you are angry about Lebron not coming here but there is no excuse for partial and bad reasoning concerning his talents. If Lebron and Jordan had played together, that would have been the greatest tandem in sports history...by far.
By the way, Cleveland dislikes Chicago and has for years...they cheered when Jordan got hurt, which is why he scored 69 on them. They booed Thome, Manny, and Albert Belle who had hall of fame level tenure with the Indians...what do you expect?
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If LeBron played with MJ, you better believe that they would win 70 together. MJ would've taken LeBron's head off for anything less than what he's doing right now (which is still pretty darn good, though not nearly as good for a player of LeBron's talent level). LeBron and MJ? Scary combo....
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Houf, I don't think we disagree about anything other than the fact that I find it repulsive that they chant "Scottie Pippen" at LeBron as an insult, while you see nothing wrong with it.
I share your views about LeBron settling for less and about him being the most able player to ever set set foot on an NBA-court. But all I'm saying is that despite that LeBron>Pippen overall, there are still instances where Pippen is a better player than LeBron. Obviously, I'll take LeBron in most cases before Pippen. But really... why are you baffled by other Bulls' fans being upset by nasty "Scottie Pippen" chants? Obviosuly we are going to be...
I share your views about LeBron settling for less and about him being the most able player to ever set set foot on an NBA-court. But all I'm saying is that despite that LeBron>Pippen overall, there are still instances where Pippen is a better player than LeBron. Obviously, I'll take LeBron in most cases before Pippen. But really... why are you baffled by other Bulls' fans being upset by nasty "Scottie Pippen" chants? Obviosuly we are going to be...
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Pippen being able to do certain things better than Lebron means nothing because Lebron can do a LOT of things better than Pippen.
As far as the chant...first, they hate Chicago. Secondly, their idea of what Lebron is about fits the chant! Lebron has the ability to be the leading man but the mentality to be a sidekick in their eyes. Scottie Pippen was pretty much the same way...
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isn't lebron playing the leading guy in miami? he's scoring more, more apt to take over games, and he's getting more assists than wade.
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Yes, obviously. But all I'm saying is that I believe Pippen's style best complemented Jordan's and what the Bulls' needed. Therefore, despite the fact that LeBron is better overall, Pippen deserves some respect seeing as that he was an intregal part of a multi-time Championship team's success - and LeBron wasn't.
Anybody who can do a numbers of things better than a player like LeBron James deserves a lot of respect. Pippen was one of those players.
And I hated the chant. You won't change my mind about that. They chanted "SIDEKICK" and that was enough. Bringing Pippen into it (as an insult) was disgusting to me. Sorry.
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There is no "number of things" Pippen could do better if you mean a lot of things...that is just false.
Sidekick and Pippen are synonymous in the NBA. The most successful sidekicks in any sport will be compared to him for the next half century. Nobody was insulted when his name was brought up this summer in comparison to Lebron because of Lebron's decision. The comparison was made many times.
Why do they boo Ben Gordon at the UC? I thought he was replaceable, but I don't think he deserves to be jeered. So again, its fair game, you can be insulted, I am not. Its not big deal, while you are insulted, I find them to be bitter fans. So it really doesn't matter.
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The fact that Pippen was a much more active defender and could read his opponent much better than LeBron could is one thing Pippen did better right there.
Pippen was a great post passer and LeBron is not. Pippen was an exceptional post scorer for a 6'7'' player (mostly because of his length) and LeBron doesn't have that dimension to his arsenal.
LeBron does a lot of things MUCH better than Pippen, but Pippen was a complete player on both ends, and LeBron was not.
That's really all I'm saying is that those are a "number of things" right there that Pippen does better. The use of the words "a lot" is really subjective.
And yeah... my hating of fans using Pippen as an insult is not rational. But neither is their usuage of it. Chanting the words "Scottie Pippen" as an insult is just mind-boggling to me. So much positivity comes with his name that it pisses me off to see people use it in a degregating matter. That's all I'm saying... and it's not that hard to understand. I'm not as offended by it as much as I think they are idiots for doing it.
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If I was coaching Miami I also would have considered either...
a. Not starting LeBron and hopefully not even PLAYING him to show Cleveland we can blow them out WITHOUT James, making them even madder.
b. Not starting LeBron or Ilgauskas and then 15 seconds into the game, bringing them in TOGETHER, creating some classic conflicted-crowd (we hate LeBron but we love Ilgauskas).
And then when they booed, tell Ilgauskas to hold his hands up in the air like "Hey! Why are you booing me?"
Why you doo too mee like dawt!?
a. Not starting LeBron and hopefully not even PLAYING him to show Cleveland we can blow them out WITHOUT James, making them even madder.
b. Not starting LeBron or Ilgauskas and then 15 seconds into the game, bringing them in TOGETHER, creating some classic conflicted-crowd (we hate LeBron but we love Ilgauskas).
And then when they booed, tell Ilgauskas to hold his hands up in the air like "Hey! Why are you booing me?"
Why you doo too mee like dawt!?
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Absolutely agree with you. LeDouche does not take the game seriously like Kobe or Jordan. If he did, he would have 2 or 3 rings already.
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btw, Houf, obviously LeBron+Jordan would win titles. I'm just thinking more like 3 or 4 titles... not 6.
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