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DJ and Mcshay were on a recent draft fest podcast and both said that they had him in the 20's.
However, they both agreed that despite that, he is going top 10 in this draft.
I listened to the first 20 minutes, some god stuff.

Idc if a player is over drafted. Can they play? Do they have an opinion on that?
 

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Greg isn't saying anything profound here. Todd McShay highlighted the fact that there are some teams high on Banks and some not at all.

If the Bears start Banks at LT and then he shifts to LG to take over for Thuney after he retires things are just fine.

Regardless of anyone's feelings on Banks the Bears still need players on the offensive and defensive lines and drafting Jeanty or one of the TEs would be a fucking waste.

But after what Bowers Barkley and Gibbs did that's the new obsession.
 

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Greg isn't saying anything profound here. Todd McShay highlighted the fact that there are some teams high on Banks and some not at all.

If the Bears start Banks at LT and then he shifts to LG to take over for Thuney after he retires things are just fine.

Regardless of anyone's feelings on Banks the Bears still need players on the offensive and defensive lines and drafting Jeanty or one of the TEs would be a fucking waste.

But after what Bowers Barkley and Gibbs did that's the new obsession.
Sooooooooo then it is okay to draft a G in the top 10? Because i'm not sure many were good with drafting a G top 10 when we were talking about T.Booker at 10 about a month or month and a half ago.
 

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Greg isn't saying anything profound here. Todd McShay highlighted the fact that there are some teams high on Banks and some not at all.

If the Bears start Banks at LT and then he shifts to LG to take over for Thuney after he retires things are just fine.

Regardless of anyone's feelings on Banks the Bears still need players on the offensive and defensive lines and drafting Jeanty or one of the TEs would be a fucking waste.

But after what Bowers Barkley and Gibbs did that's the new obsession.

If Banks Jr switches to LG to take over for Thuney after he retires, he better play it at an all pro level. Otherwise, it’s awful value at 10. If they go OL at 10, they need to be an above average LT or all pro level OG.
 

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Sooooooooo then it is okay to draft a G in the top 10? Because i'm not sure many were good with drafting a G top 10 when we were talking about T.Booker at 10 about a month or month and a half ago.
I'm saying if he doesn't work out at LT and they have to shift him to guard it's fine. I happen to think he's the best tackle and Membou being 6-3 and a RT only hurts his value but because he had stud combine workout suddenly he's the guy everyone is having about. Guess we'll see
 

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If Banks Jr switches to LG to take over for Thuney after he retires, he better play it at an all pro level. Otherwise, it’s awful value at 10. If they go OL at 10, they need to be an above average LT or all pro level OG.
I agree. The same argument goes for Jeanty and Warren at 10. Problem is there's 3 maybe 4 blue chip talents in this draft and none of them are likely to be there at 10.
 

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I agree. The same argument goes for Jeanty and Warren at 10. Problem is there's 3 maybe 4 blue chip talents in this draft and none of them are likely to be there at 10.

I don’t want Warren at all but for sure if jeanty is the pick, he needs to be elite
 

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I don’t want Warren at all but for sure if jeanty is the pick, he needs to be elite
Basically we're making the argument that you hope they have the chance to trade down. But even then who gets someone excited to trade up?
 

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Basically we're making the argument that you hope they have the chance to trade down. But even then who gets someone excited to trade up?

I mean, I’d definitely be interested in a trade down. That said, if jeanty is on the board I think there’s a 90% chance they’re drafting him…and I’d be totally fine with it.
 

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I mean, I’d definitely be interested in a trade down. That said, if jeanty is on the board I think there’s a 90% chance they’re drafting him…and I’d be totally fine with it.
I know the fight on the board for the last 4 months has been about the bright shiny object that is Ashton Jeanty. Some dudes fell further in love with him er the idea of picking him when he did his personal workout shirtless, that was all over social media.

If Jeanty is the pick he better go for about 1500 plus and 13 in year one.
 

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I know the fight on the board for the last 4 months has been about the bright shiny object that is Ashton Jeanty. Some dudes fell further in love with him er the idea of picking him when he did his personal workout shirtless, that was all over social media.

If Jeanty is the pick he better go for about 1500 plus and 13 in year one.

He certainly could. I don’t think that necessarily needs to be the bar year one…but something close to it and a long and elite career.
 

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Greg isn't saying anything profound here. Todd McShay highlighted the fact that there are some teams high on Banks and some not at all.

If the Bears start Banks at LT and then he shifts to LG to take over for Thuney after he retires things are just fine.

Regardless of anyone's feelings on Banks the Bears still need players on the offensive and defensive lines and drafting Jeanty or one of the TEs would be a fucking waste.

But after what Bowers Barkley and Gibbs did that's the new obsession.
Good points here.
 

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I get that, but how can I get better odds playing for Carter at exactly 3 than Campbell at exactly 4 when Carter not going 3 would impact the Campbell pick?
They are making the bet that Ward goes 1, and Carter/Hunter go 2/3 in one order or another. Not sure which, but they think they'll be 2nd and 3rd, and of the remaining options, they're considering Campbell the likely #4, due not only to his talent, but largely due to NE needing an OT.
 

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