Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

[ndgt10]

 

[DefNextYear]

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Lol... who is this guy? His next tweet says something about Ben Johnson getting a competent GM eventually... after he trashed the Jonah Jackson trade that was clearly a Ben Johnson guy?

 

[playthrough2001]

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I’m sure the Raiders would tell this guy if that was their plan. “Hey guys, let’s give some random idiot the keys to our draft plan so he can post it on X.”

Also, didn’t Poles outmaneuver the Raiders for Johnson?

 

[playthrough2001]

Adam Jahns’ Big Board for the Bears (Excerpts from The Athletic posted this morning)

Day 1 | Pick 10

The wish list

Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State | Ranking: 3
Will Campbell, OL, LSU | Ranking: 6

At this point, plenty has been written and said about Jeanty and Campbell. They are two of the “blue” players in this draft. The Bears would surely be happy to take one of them with the 10th selection should one fall to them.

Campbell’s less-than-ideal arm length might shift his grade for some teams, but it won’t change his standing as a top-10 pick in this year’s draft. He’s too good at doing everything else required to play left tackle, and too many teams before the Bears in the draft need help up front this year, starting with the New England Patriots at No. 4.

Jeanty is more than a running back. He’s an elite weapon — one the Bears should take at No. 10 if he’s available. But it doesn’t seem likely with the Las Vegas Raiders sitting at No. 6.

Eight more players to watch

Tyler Warren, TE, Penn State | Ranking: 8

Brugler: “A high-efficiency pass catcher, Warren moves with light feet, fluid body movements and natural balance, all of which help him instantly transition from receiver to runner and become a threat with the ball in his hands.”

Shemar Stewart, DE, Texas A&M | Ranking: 9

Brugler: “The No. 1 area in which he needs to improve is as a finisher. He has the athleticism to get to the ball but has no business missing as many tackles as he does, especially given his power and movements.”

Mike Green, DE, Marshall | Ranking: 10

Brugler: “As long as his character checks out, he is one of the top pass-rush prospects in the draft class with the disruptive ability to be an NFL starter.”

Mykel Williams, DE, Georgia | Ranking: 21

Brugler: “The individual traits (length, strength, explosiveness), promising toughness and football character are reasons to bet on his upside. Similar in ways to Jason Pierre-Paul, he projects as an NFL starter on the edge.”

Coltson Loveland, TE, Michigan | Ranking: 11

Brugler: “His tools and upside are reminiscent of Zach Ertz.”

Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon | Ranking: 16

Brugler: “A player who can win in different ways, Harmon forces blockers to attack air with his lateral explosiveness or uses strong, crafty hands to swat away the reach of blockers as he bursts through gaps to close on the ball carrier.”

Josh Conerly Jr., OT, Oregon | Ranking: 23

Brugler: “A quick, fluid mover, Conerly has the range to reach his landmarks laterally in pass protection and on the move, at the second level and in the run game.”

Kelvin Banks, OL, Texas | Ranking: 26

Brugler: “Despite not moving to the offensive line until high school, he looks like he has been playing there his entire life — it wasn’t a coincidence the Longhorns’ rise mirrored Banks’ tenure (Texas’ wins increased each of his three seasons in the program).”


Quick thoughts

• Don’t forget what happened two years ago with the Bears’ selection of right tackle Darnell Wright. He was considered a late first-round pick by most analysts. Brugler had him as his No. 24 player in the draft. But Wright plays tackle — an all-important premium position. It’s why Conerly and Banks are included in this list.

While Banks is considered a guard prospect by some, Conerly is locked in at tackle. He’s also a true left tackle, while Missouri’s Armand Membou — a likely top-10 pick — played only on the right side in college. Conerly also doesn’t have the health concerns that Ohio State left tackle Josh Simmons has after he tore the patellar tendon in his knee.

In 2023, Wright’s performance against Will Anderson, the best pass rusher in that draft class, was viewed as a positive. Similar things can be written about Conerly this year after he shut down Penn State’s Abdul Carter.

• It’s a deep year for defensive linemen. That’s inside and outside. The Bears have needs up front on defense, but they must weigh the strengths and weaknesses of the draft, too. It’s also a deep class for tight ends. The depth on the offensive line just isn’t the same.

Is the best strategy passing on Warren, Stewart or Williams at No. 10 in favor of Conerly or Banks and then targeting a pass rusher or a tight end in the second round?

Day 2 | Picks 39, 41 and 72

20 players to watch

Mason Taylor, TE, LSU | Ranking: 33
Jaylin Noel, WR, Iowa State | Ranking: 42
JT Tuimoloau, DE, Ohio State | Ranking: 43
Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa | Ranking: 44
TreVeyon Henderson, RB, Ohio State | Ranking: 46
Landon Jackson, DE, Arkansas | Ranking: 47
Jordan Burch, DE, Oregon | Ranking: 52
Tate Ratledge, G, Georgia | Ranking: 53
Xavier Watts, S, Notre Dame | Ranking: 54
Jonah Savaiinaea, G, Arizona | Ranking: 55
Nic Scourton, DE, Texas A&M | Ranking: 59
Quinshon Judkins, RB, Ohio State | Ranking: 60
Tre Harris, WR, Ole Miss | Ranking: 65
Joshua Farmer, DT, Florida State | Ranking: 76
Isaiah Bond, WR, Texas | Ranking: 88
Kyle Williams, WR, Washington State | Ranking: 92
Anthony Belton, OT, NC State | Ranking: 94
Bradyn Swinson, DE, LSU | Ranking: 100
Sai’vion Jones, DE, LSU
Cam Skattebo, RB Arizona State

Continues at link…

Bears NFL Draft Big Board: What happens if Ashton Jeanty, Will Campbell are gone?

The Bears' biggest roster needs are at offensive tackle, defensive lineman and running back. We look at options for all three days.

www.nytimes.com

 

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[Rise]

At this point I’d be surprised by an oline pick. I think Jeanty, one of two TEs, or best dline available are all more likely. I think they believe in Kiran at least as much as the prospects available this year.

 

[msadows]

Well this is certainly a new one. Donut Dan says explosive plays in football don't matter?

Does he really have brane damage?

 

[DefNextYear]

Should start right at the Bears (24:44)

If don’t want to watch, he’s roughly what he’s saying based on sources:
4 Campbell
5 McMillian
6 Edge - picks Walker
7 Barron (Glenn wants defense… edge in play even though they’ve drafted some recently… sounds like Walker if there)
8 Mykel (also want defense, specifically edge)
9 Membou (too good value, but prefer edge to learn from Cam)

10 - choice of Jeanty, Warren, Loveland, and Mason

 

[Luke]

Tuesday morning Draft Kings odds by pick.

Definitely some changes reflecting current gossip.
Jeany gaining traction at 5, plenty of Banks top 10 consideration, Williams overtakes Sanders at 9.
lol then we hear Mcshays whispers of Jeanty at 10, Barron top 10, Graham out of top 10 and so on.
Can it be that crazy?


1 Ward -20000
2 Hunter -1000
3 Carter -600, Sanders +450
4 Campbell -380
5 Graham +125, Jeanty +150
6 Jeanty -125, Membou +300
7 Membou +150, Warren +275, Banks +550
8 Walker +130, Williams +400, Tmac +550
9 Williams +370, Sanders +425, Stewart/Banks +600
10 Waren +350, Jeanty +425, Banks +550

 

[Rise]

Anyone else scared of Campbell and Graham? I really don’t want either of these guys and their T-Rex arms in the top 10. I understand they are just good football players but their physical traits scare me to much. Someone talk me into these two players please.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Should start right at the Bears (24:44)

If don’t want to watch, he’s roughly what he’s saying based on sources:
4 Campbell
5 McMillian
6 Edge - picks Walker
7 Barron (Glenn wants defense… edge in play even though they’ve drafted some recently… sounds like Walker if there)
8 Mykel (also want defense, specifically edge)
9 Membou (too good value, but prefer edge to learn from Cam)

10 - choice of Jeanty, Warren, Loveland, and Mason

Then run to the podium for Mason Graham. This is a no brainer. Poles would get his mulligan on Jalen Carter

 

[msadows]

Anyone else scared of Campbell and Graham? I really don’t want either of these guys and their T-Rex arms in the top 10. I understand they are just good football players but their physical traits scare me to much. Someone talk me into these two players please.

Didnt aaron donald fall in the draft due to his arm length and height.

Aidan hutchinson also has tiny trex arms and seems to dominate. Guy was one of the favorits for DPOTY prior to his injury

My guess is arm length might mean more on offense for tackles as you need to get your arms on guys, but probably still not really important compared to other traits.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Brett Kollman had a mock with Malaki Starks to the Bears at 10. Congrats on originality I guess

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Brett Kollman had a mock with Malaki Starks to the Bears at 10. Congrats on originality I guess

The more I watch of kollman, the more I think he's a complete moron.

 

[msadows]

Then run to the podium for Mason Graham. This is a no brainer. Poles would get his mulligan on Jalen Carter

I'd be shocked if this draft happens. Seems like McShay trying to get some more clicks in before people stop caring about him.

Really doubt Tet, Barron, or Mykel go before the bears pick.

 

[knoxville7]

I'd be shocked if this draft happens. Seems like McShay trying to get some more clicks in before people stop caring about him.

Really doubt Tet, Barron, or Mykel go before the bears pick.

Mykel will IMO

 

[gallagher]

Anyone else scared of Campbell and Graham? I really don’t want either of these guys and their T-Rex arms in the top 10. I understand they are just good football players but their physical traits scare me to much. Someone talk me into these two players please.

Graham? No, you shouldn't be worried. The tape doesn't lie - he is a blue chip prospect who plays big against top competition. He has a wrestling background, and is an ace at using leverage, dropping anchor, and has a forearm club that will knock the arms off his opponent.

What is scary is that he is not done growing. His frame has room to add a lot of muscle without making him slower or too bulky.

He isn't the fastest shooter, but he sustains battle through the whistle for the entire game. Getting him would be the dream for Chicago, and the nightmare for the rest of the division.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I'd be shocked if this draft happens. Seems like McShay trying to get some more clicks in before people stop caring about him.

Really doubt Tet, Barron, or Mykel go before the bears pick.

And that right there is why the draft is fun.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Mykel will IMO

I wouldn’t be shocked if he did. Wouldn’t be shocked if he went in the 20’s either. I really have no clue where this draft ends up

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

The more I watch of kollman, the more I think he's a complete moron.

Or an evil genius for mocking a safety to the Bears. Stupid enough to get attention, but the Bears being the Bears you always have this voice in the back if your head that says “maybe”.