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[BaBaBlacksheep]

Chicago Bears Draft Needs, Picks & Mock Draft for 2025

Bears team needs, depth charts & draft analysis, identifying positions where the team can improve in the 2025 NFL Draft. Bears 2025 roster needs & analysis.

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Some fodder here for the Swift is a bum crowd. Lots of other good stats too

 

[DefNextYear]

Damn it i missed my opening cause it's not free now.

For what it's worth, still looks free on my phone actually.

 

[thenewguy]

This isn't complicated. At #10, the Bears should be looking for top-level talent, not filling need and certainly not worrying about depth concerns. This year, the tier-1 talent is two guys. Those two guys are not even on the horizon for the Bears. Consensus seems to be that the tier-2 talent runs ~6-8 guys deep, plus a QB. The Bears should end up with one or two guys in their tier-2 bucket to choose from at #10. They should just take whomever is the highest-rated guy left in the bucket, regardless of position. If it's Walker, fine, take him. If it's Warren, fine, same thing. Tet? Same thing, take him. Johnson? Same thing. Too many people here see filling holes with #10 as meeting need, without recognizing that having top-level talent on the roster is the ultimate need. This isn't complicated...

Agree with this. There not a big gap at OL/DL/Edge at 10 and the picks at 39/41/72. There is a lot of talent to get depth and development picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. There are only a handful of blue chip talent prospects in this draft and if you can get a difference maker at 10 you take it. The Bears do need difference makers that teams game plan around. I don't want a roster of average and slightly above average players. It's where the Packers and Steelers are. Good orgs, and we'll coached, but just won't be able to beat top teams. We all hope Caleb and Rome take them out of that tier, but it wouldn't hurt to add another.

 

[Xplosive]

The best Jeanty comp to me is a cross between Gibbs / Monty.

That's such a idealistic and appealing way of avoiding giving an actual player but instead make up an imaginary player based on two likeable guys.... LOL

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Banks is interesting to me because there's really nothing in his tape that says he can't play T, but some people seem to be pushing he can't play T.

Is it just someone trying to tank his draft stock so they can get him? Or is there something that's missed because Sarkisian does everything he can in that offense to make things easy on the Ts. His tape is harder to evaluate because there isn't much pure drop back like LSU and they do a ton of quick game and slide protection. But overall he held up great and gets out in space well on screens and zone runs too. I don't see a reason he wouldn't hold up at LT.

The silence from actual teams on him is interesting, I guess we'll find out what it means in a couple weeks.

 

[playthrough2001]

Banks is interesting to me because there's really nothing in his tape that says he can't play T, but some people seem to be pushing he can't play T.

Is it just someone trying to tank his draft stock so they can get him? Or is there something that's missed because Sarkisian does everything he can in that offense to make things easy on the Ts. His tape is harder to evaluate because there isn't much pure drop back like LSU and they do a ton of quick game and slide protection. But overall he held up great and gets out in space well on screens and zone runs too. I don't see a reason he wouldn't hold up at LT.

The silence from actual teams on him is interesting, I guess we'll find out what it means in a couple weeks.

I’ve liked him from the jump. Plus, he’s a really good run blocker.

Many times I’ve stated they should draft him at 10.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I’ve liked him from the jump. Plus, he’s a really good run blocker.

Many times I’ve stated they should draft him at 10.

I actually like both him and Campbell. And obviously membou is a freak but can he play LT?

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Banks is interesting to me because there's really nothing in his tape that says he can't play T, but some people seem to be pushing he can't play T.

Is it just someone trying to tank his draft stock so they can get him? Or is there something that's missed because Sarkisian does everything he can in that offense to make things easy on the Ts. His tape is harder to evaluate because there isn't much pure drop back like LSU and they do a ton of quick game and slide protection. But overall he held up great and gets out in space well on screens and zone runs too. I don't see a reason he wouldn't hold up at LT.

The silence from actual teams on him is interesting, I guess we'll find out what it means in a couple weeks.

There’s a funny conversation in the last Hoge and Jahns were they say it’s because he has an ass that looks like a guard. Now I only play a scout on CCS so I admittedly don’t compare OL asses so I can’t comment as to the validity of this statement.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I actually like both him and Campbell. And obviously membou is a freak but can he play LT?

I would assume if the Bears were interested in Membou they would have put him through a lot of LT drills and have a decent idea of what he can do. Don’t think he makes it to 10 though

 

[PrideisBears]

Dane Brugler said he would feel comfortable getting a good RB into round 4.

You and @bamainatlanta still fighting because I want to instigate

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

You and @bamainatlanta still fighting because I want to instigate

Don’t f up the draft thread dork

You’re as bad as the Lions fans

 

[dabears70]

For what it's worth, still looks free on my phone actually.

I went back and it was free. not sure why it wasn't the first time.

 

[DefNextYear]

This type of thinking was why people didn’t want Verse last year at 9.

Who cares where the media has guys? If Poles thinks someone like Conerly is a 8-10 year starter at LT you run the pick up.

It doesn't matter what type of thinking we have though. Who cares if people on here didn't want Verse? It's not like Verse fell to 19 cause people on forums didn't want him. He fell to 19 cause actual NFL teams drafting in the range of 3/4-18 didn't rank him higher. So, this doesn't really compute. Sure, if Poles likes Conerly, he would make the pick regardless of what CCS says. He basically did that with Wright. Brugler had him at 24 (Broderick Jones at 15). Jeremiah had Wright at 18. There is no "type of thinking" here that factors in the actual process. I doubt Poles and his team are going to compare their board to Brugler and override it.

And the thing is I don't have the Bears big board, and I only have access to boards developed by the big names in the industry. So, I'm not going to say, based on no scouting experience at all, that I should go against the experts on a limb just cause the team needs to fill a hole. The best tools accessible to what the world thinks of these players are these boards by the media. No one here has put in the work on tape to say their opinion is better than Brugler or Jeremiah... so it makes sense to just use that board. And if the Bears take a guy lower, like Wright, then it is what it is. I never complained about Wright and won't complain now. I just won't predict that kind of move cause I have no basis to do so.

For what it's worth, Jeremiah had Verse at 14 and I usually like his boards the best. But picking a guy 4 spots from 10 is a lot different from picking guys ranked like 24 at 10. Again though, none of it really matters cause Poles did it before with Wright, and Poles has a team of scouts and unlimited resources to develop his own board. Also, actual NFL teams let Verse fall to 19 and selected Latu and Turner above him, despite Jeremiah and Brugler both having Latu as edge3. It's like noting this "type of thinking" for Lamar Jackson falling to the end of the first. NFL teams get it wrong a lot, not just media guys. Half the first round will be busts. It is what it is. If you consistently pick guys ranked near 10 on boards, you'll be right more often. If you want to go out on a limb and pick guys usually ranked around 25, you'll be right less often.

 

[DefNextYear]

Banks is interesting to me because there's really nothing in his tape that says he can't play T, but some people seem to be pushing he can't play T.

Is it just someone trying to tank his draft stock so they can get him? Or is there something that's missed because Sarkisian does everything he can in that offense to make things easy on the Ts. His tape is harder to evaluate because there isn't much pure drop back like LSU and they do a ton of quick game and slide protection. But overall he held up great and gets out in space well on screens and zone runs too. I don't see a reason he wouldn't hold up at LT.

The silence from actual teams on him is interesting, I guess we'll find out what it means in a couple weeks.

He feels like a guy that could be a surprise on draft day. Nothing I really see anywhere gives me the idea that he couldn't play LT. He was an absolute stud in college. But his reports are more or less pretty complimentary and then they just end saying he'll be a guard. Kind of weird.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

He feels like a guy that could be a surprise on draft day. Nothing I really see anywhere gives me the idea that he couldn't play LT. He was an absolute stud in college. But his reports are more or less pretty complimentary and then they just end saying he'll be a guard. Kind of weird.

Lol yeah that was what I got out of reading bruglers report on him. Held up great at T and did everything pretty well, think he'll be a guard. Hmm

 

[bamainatlanta]

Don’t f up the draft thread dork

You’re as bad as the Lions fans

That’s a low blow

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

That's such an idealistic and appealing way of avoiding giving an actual player but instead make up an imaginary player based on two likeable guys.... LOL

Ummmm. No. That’s just what I see. Sorry if it doesn’t fit what you see.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

It doesn't matter what type of thinking we have though. Who cares if people on here didn't want Verse? It's not like Verse fell to 19 cause people on forums didn't want him. He fell to 19 cause actual NFL teams drafting in the range of 3/4-18 didn't rank him higher. So, this doesn't really compute. Sure, if Poles likes Conerly, he would make the pick regardless of what CCS says. He basically did that with Wright. Brugler had him at 24 (Broderick Jones at 15). Jeremiah had Wright at 18. There is no "type of thinking" here that factors in the actual process. I doubt Poles and his team are going to compare their board to Brugler and override it.

And the thing is I don't have the Bears big board, and I only have access to boards developed by the big names in the industry. So, I'm not going to say, based on no scouting experience at all, that I should go against the experts on a limb just cause the team needs to fill a hole. The best tools accessible to what the world thinks of these players are these boards by the media. No one here has put in the work on tape to say their opinion is better than Brugler or Jeremiah... so it makes sense to just use that board. And if the Bears take a guy lower, like Wright, then it is what it is. I never complained about Wright and won't complain now. I just won't predict that kind of move cause I have no basis to do so.

For what it's worth, Jeremiah had Verse at 14 and I usually like his boards the best. But picking a guy 4 spots from 10 is a lot different from picking guys ranked like 24 at 10. Again though, none of it really matters cause Poles did it before with Wright, and Poles has a team of scouts and unlimited resources to develop his own board. Also, actual NFL teams let Verse fall to 19 and selected Latu and Turner above him, despite Jeremiah and Brugler both having Latu as edge3. It's like noting this "type of thinking" for Lamar Jackson falling to the end of the first. NFL teams get it wrong a lot, not just media guys. Half the first round will be busts. It is what it is. If you consistently pick guys ranked near 10 on boards, you'll be right more often. If you want to go out on a limb and pick guys usually ranked around 25, you'll be right less often.

Cliff notes?

 

[Xplosive]

Ummmm. No. That’s just what I see. Sorry if it doesn’t fit what you see.

No apologies needed. He chose not to even run a 40 so he's not getting any Jahmyr Gibbs comps, but I get the concept that's he's a much faster Monty. He's also about 3 inches shorter and nearly 15lbs lighter, so I think he won't be able to pull it off in NFL and will get worn down trying to out muscle, much better and bigger players.

I can't think of the last RB that was his size and was consistently one of the Best RBs in the league... Sweetness?

 

[Discus fish salesman]

No apologies needed. He chose not to even run a 40 so he's not getting any Jahmyr Gibbs comps, but I get the concept that's he's a much faster Monty. He's also about 3 inches shorter and nearly 15lbs lighter, so I think he won't be able to pull it off in NFL and will get worn down trying to out muscle, much better and bigger players.

I can't think of the last RB that was his size and was consistently one of the Best RBs in the league... Sweetness?

Marshall Faulk, LT, priest Holmes, Barry sanders, cmc etc.