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I'm really thinking this as the draft gets closer


Pick 10: Jalon Walker, Mike Green, James Pearce

Pick 39: Josh Conerly, Donovan Jackson, Xavier Watts

Pick 41: Trevyon Henderson, Emeka Egbuka
 

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From Austin Mock at The Athletic:

“Ashton Jeanty Top 10 Pick?

Picking Ashton Jeanty in top 10 would be a mistake, learning wrong lesson from Saquon Barkley

The perceived value of the running back position appears to be on the rise, largely buoyed, I suspect, by Saquon Barkley’s sensational 2024 season in which he rushed for 2,005 yards and helped deliver the Philadelphia Eagles a Super Bowl title. While Barkley is undeniably great — my projection model sees him as the best back in the league — he is not the reason the Eagles won a Super Bowl. He helped, of course, but Philadelphia already had constructed the best roster in the league before acquiring him.

Barkley was the cherry on top.

Before signing Barkley in free agency, the Eagles had done what most smart organizations do: They targeted premium positions (QB, WR, OT, DL, CB) with their premium draft picks. In fact, since 2015, every first-round pick the Eagles made was spent on a player who plays a premium position.

Their past five first-round picks were: CB Quinyon Mitchell, DT Jalen Carter, Edge Nolan Smith, DT Jordan Davis and WR DeVonta Smith, all of whom played pivotal roles on their Super Bowl run this past season.

It’s also worth noting that in 2023, the Eagles had a chance to draft running back Jahmyr Gibbs in the top 10 before the Detroit Lions ended up selecting the star running back at No. 12. Philly instead opted to trade up to No. 9 for Carter, who has blossomed into an interior game-wrecker on defense.

The lesson to be learned here is that constructing a foundation with first-round talents who play premium positions remains the ideal way to build. Unfortunately, because Barkley played so well last season and helped push the Eagles over the top, I fear teams are going to fall into a trap by trying to take a shortcut to an elite running game and invest too much capital into a running back as they hope to “replicate” the Eagles’ success.”

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The above applies especially in this draft because of the plethora of RB talent.

That’s why they need to take the best OT, Edge, DT, or CB.

Draft Kelvin Banks Jr!
Draft Will Campbell or Membou!
Draft Will Johnson!
Draft Walter Nolen!
Draft Kenneth Grant!
Draft Mike Green, James Pearce, Mykel Williams or Jalon Walker!
Draft Graham if he drops!

Don’t draft Jeanty or Warren!

Oh, and please don’t draft Shemar Stewart just because!

At this point IMO, its shaping up to go Ward, Hunter, Carter, Campbell, Graham, Jeanty, Warren, Walker, Dart/Sanders and then da Bears at 10.
After the blue chippers, the next 10-40 or so players are pretty close so at this point get yourself a good solid player.
After reading this, I'm thinking it could very well be Mykel Williams.
a 6-5 260 long armed 5 star recruit who ran a1.59 10 yard split, high motor player who played at 60% last year may be too tempting to pass up.
Minimally a good solid player with tons of upside at a critical position.

 

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At this point IMO, its shaping up to go Ward, Hunter, Carter, Campbell, Graham, Jeanty, Warren, Walker, Dart/Sanders and then da Bears at 10.
After the blue chippers, the next 10-40 or so players are pretty close so at this point get yourself a good solid player.
After reading this, I'm thinking it could very well be Mykel Williams.
a 6-5 260 long armed 5 star recruit who ran a1.59 10 yard split, high motor player who played at 60% last year may be too tempting to pass up.
Minimally a good solid player with tons of upside at a critical position.


I thought I read an article last season about Poles and Cunningham kind of salivating over him at one of their appearances at a Georgia game. I definitely could see it.
 

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@Luke

Here’s something Williams said about the Bears and playing through an injury. By the way, this article is by a famous author.

“Naming Ryan Poles and the coaching staff as something he loves is interesting to hear. It's clear he has a strong opinion about them already and with a need for a pass rusher, Williams could be a pick with a lot of upside for the Bears at No. 10 or even in a trade back. He has to be fully healthy, however.

Williams admitted at the combine that he was playing through an injury for most of the season, saying that he was playing at 60-70 percent. Even with that, he still produced five sacks and 2 forced fumbles. However, playing through that injury frustrated him.”

 

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@Luke

Here’s something Williams said about the Bears and playing through an injury. By the way, this article is by a famous author.

“Naming Ryan Poles and the coaching staff as something he loves is interesting to hear. It's clear he has a strong opinion about them already and with a need for a pass rusher, Williams could be a pick with a lot of upside for the Bears at No. 10 or even in a trade back. He has to be fully healthy, however.

Williams admitted at the combine that he was playing through an injury for most of the season, saying that he was playing at 60-70 percent. Even with that, he still produced five sacks and 2 forced fumbles. However, playing through that injury frustrated him.”


man, if he can run a 1.59, he is healthy now - workout warrior Stewart ran 1.58.
Maybe the Stewart visit was a smokescreen to hide their interest in Mykel.
I think Brugler comped him to JPP.
Jeremiahs last comment in his Williams review...

He has game-changing tools when healthy and locked in.
 
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The Bears top 30 visits list sucks. Count me in as worried
My guess is they are more using it to get a better idea on later round guys. They probably have a pretty good idea of what they think on most of the guys in the top of the draft. Although, in the back of my mind, I'm scared Stewart is their guy at 10.
 

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My guess is they are more using it to get a better idea on later round guys. They probably have a pretty good idea of what they think on most of the guys in the top of the draft. Although, in the back of my mind, I'm scared Stewart is their guy at 10.
Taking Stewart at the #10 pick would be so stupid. That's a huge gamble that a smart team doesn't take when there are so many other safer choices and so many other needs on the roster.

Even if he succeeds it would still be a bad pick because it's stupid logic to even take that risk.
 

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Taking Stewart at the #10 pick would be so stupid. That's a huge gamble that a smart team doesn't take when there are so many other safer choices and so many other needs on the roster.

Even if he succeeds it would still be a bad pick because it's stupid logic to even take that risk.
I mean if he succeeds, it'll be a home run because he'll be an absolute monster. But based off what we have to go off now, it's a hard no from me
 

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I mean if he succeeds, it'll be a home run because he'll be an absolute monster. But based off what we have to go off now, it's a hard no from me
He'd have to be an absolute game wrecker for it to even slightly make sense. I'd still have worries about Poles going forward because that would be so reckless and unnecessary to simply gamble that his athleticism alone will make him a good player.
 

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At this point IMO, it’s shaping up to go Ward, Hunter, Carter, Campbell, Graham, Jeanty, Warren, Walker, Dart/Sanders and then da Bears at 10.
You either forgot or seriously undervalued Membou. If the first nine picks went the way you’re projecting, the Bears would be sprinting the Membou card in, laughing all the way. But I’m guessing there’s no 2nd QB taken in the top 9 picks, leaving the same predicament at #10 that you’re suggesting. The real hope is for someone to force a 2nd QB pick in the top 9, leaving one of the top guys to be there at #10. Taking Stewart or Williams at #10 feels like forcing a risky pick at #10 solely for need. Neither guy feels like a top half of the 1st round talent…
 

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Their past five first-round picks were: CB Quinyon Mitchell, DT Jalen Carter, Edge Nolan Smith, DT Jordan Davis and WR DeVonta Smith, all of whom played pivotal roles on their Super Bowl run this past season.
Ummm... AJ Brown, Saquon Barkley, & Jalen Hurts (key to the Tush Push) were the engine of that team. Yes all those other drafted guys were important and helped but downplaying Barkley is silly.

The whole offense revolves around having a super-strong QB that is nearly impossible to stop from sneaking on short runs. Jalen Hurts has had double digit rushing touchdowns for the last 4 years and Philly has been top 5 in Rushing TDs ever since he's been their starter.

Barkley + Hurts is what has mattered most.
 

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Taking Stewart at the #10 pick would be so stupid. That's a huge gamble that a smart team doesn't take when there are so many other safer choices and so many other needs on the roster.

Even if he succeeds it would still be a bad pick because it's stupid logic to even take that risk.
Stewart is not a gamble a team picking in the top 10 should take. He may be worth a top 10 pick eventually, but just the investment in developing him shaves years off that rookie contract. Give him to a team that can afford to develop him as a depth piece.
 

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You either forgot or seriously undervalued Membou. If the first nine picks went the way you’re projecting, the Bears would be sprinting the Membou card in, laughing all the way. But I’m guessing there’s no 2nd QB taken in the top 9 picks, leaving the same predicament at #10 that you’re suggesting. The real hope is for someone to force a 2nd QB pick in the top 9, leaving one of the top guys to be there at #10. Taking Stewart or Williams at #10 feels like forcing a risky pick at #10 solely for need. Neither guy feels like a top half of the 1st round talent…

I didn't forget about Membou, had the Jets taking Warren over him and he dropped.
I think he plays on the right side and it's too risky to guess that he can move to LT.
Now if the Jets take him at 7, then Warren may drop and that's a different conversation.
 
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Taking Stewart at the #10 pick would be so stupid. That's a huge gamble that a smart team doesn't take when there are so many other safer choices and so many other needs on the roster.

Even if he succeeds it would still be a bad pick because it's stupid logic to even take that risk.
If it works out, it works out. I don’t want him but claiming a GM making a high risk/high reward pick and nailing it is a stupid decision is asinine. You can only knock him if it doesn’t work out.
 

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Ummm... AJ Brown, Saquon Barkley, & Jalen Hurts (key to the Tush Push) were the engine of that team. Yes all those other drafted guys were important and helped but downplaying Barkley is silly.

The whole offense revolves around having a super-strong QB that is nearly impossible to stop from sneaking on short runs. Jalen Hurts has had double digit rushing touchdowns for the last 4 years and Philly has been top 5 in Rushing TDs ever since he's been their starter.

Barkley + Hurts is what has mattered most.

The tush push wouldn’t work without an OL.
 

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