Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - Loveland - Number 2 Scheme Fit

[Canth]

There is no way they acquired Thuney to play him where he stunk.

Agreed. Also, I believe that Roushar is record as saying that he believes in building the OL from the inside out. So, I would expect them to put and keep Thuney at LG. Obviously injuries can always force their hand, but I would expect that to be a truly last resort situation.

 

[DefNextYear]

Roseman is one of the best for sure, but it’s not like he bats .1000

The best GMs miss on mid round (and higher) picks all the time.

It’s so much easier to inherit a team that’s mostly been good for the past decade, with home grown leaders on the roster already, positive momentum, and willing ownership…. than it is to take a team from shit to good.

 

[playthrough2001]

Stop trying to reason!!

Perception over reality!

I think every fan base that hasn’t had a consistent winner is like this.

 

[DefNextYear]

No they don’t. Especially premium 3rd round picks. Good GM’s hit on those almost all the time. Would say at least 96% of the time.

These are Roseman’s last 10 3rd round picks. I’d not say he hits “almost all the time” or “96% of the time”.

• Jalyx Hint - 1 start in 1 year
• Tyler Steen - 3 starts in 2 years
• Sydney Brown - 6 starts in 2 years (probably replaced by 2024 class)
• Nakobe Dean - 15 starts in 3 years
• Milton Williams - 19 starts in 4 years
• Davion Taylor- 7 starts, not in the NFL anymore
• Rasual Douglas - 18 starts in 3 years, then cut
• Isaac Seumalo - 60 starts in 7 years
• Jordan Hicks - 40 starts in 4 years, not re-signed
• Josh Huff - 6 starts in 3 years and cut, not in the NFL anymore

None of these guys made a pro bowl with the team and most never held down a starting spot. I’d say Seumalo and Milton are hits. We can throw in Dean if you want, but I’d bet against him remaining on the team. Roseman has the advantage of good coaching and ownership too. He also inherited a team that was championship caliber with the luxury of veterans who lead the locker room and set expectations and can help develop players. Milton for example, had plenty of strong defensive linemen to learn from. Who knows what he’d be if he were drafted by the Bears. But honestly, he’s the impressive hit on the list. The other debatable guys are LBs and a G, which are routinely found late in drafts.

This isn’t to say Roseman is bad, or these players are so bad and don’t fill a role, but people act like these guys have magical powers and glamorize what they accomplish as if they’re stars. GMs are missing on a lot of picks, even the best GMs.

 

[bamainatlanta]

These are Roseman’s last 10 3rd round picks. I’d not say he hits “almost all the time” or “96% of the time”.

• Jalyx Hint - 1 start in 1 year
• Tyler Steen - 3 starts in 2 years
• Sydney Brown - 6 starts in 2 years (probably replaced by 2024 class)
• Nakobe Dean - 15 starts in 3 years
• Milton Williams - 19 starts in 4 years
• Davion Taylor- 7 starts, not in the NFL anymore
• Rasual Douglas - 18 starts in 3 years, then cut
• Isaac Seumalo - 60 starts in 7 years
• Jordan Hicks - 40 starts in 4 years, not re-signed
• Josh Huff - 6 starts in 3 years and cut, not in the NFL anymore

None of these guys made a pro bowl with the team and most never held down a starting spot. I’d say Seumalo and Milton are hits. We can throw in Dean if you want, but I’d bet against him remaining on the team. Roseman has the advantage of good coaching and ownership too. He also inherited a team that was championship caliber with the luxury of veterans who lead the locker room and set expectations and can help develop players. Milton for example, had plenty of strong defensive linemen to learn from. Who knows what he’d be if he were drafted by the Bears. But honestly, he’s the impressive hit on the list. The other debatable guys are LBs and a G, which are routinely found late in drafts.

This isn’t to say Roseman is bad, or these players are so bad and don’t fill a role, but people act like these guys have magical powers and glamorize what they accomplish as if they’re stars. GMs are missing on a lot of picks, even the best GMs.

I think he was being facetious

 

[playthrough2001]

It doesn’t sound like Jones is going to be ready to go for training camp. Please stop the lunacy and take a LT at 10. At this point, if Campbell, Membou, and my guy Banks are gone, I’d be fine with Conerly too.

Bears LT Braxton Jones Expected To Be Limited In Training Camp

Braxton Jones continues to make progress in his rehab from ankle surgery, but he will likely not be cleared in time for the Bears' training camp.

www.profootballrumors.com

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

These are Roseman’s last 10 3rd round picks. I’d not say he hits “almost all the time” or “96% of the time”.

• Jalyx Hint - 1 start in 1 year
• Tyler Steen - 3 starts in 2 years
• Sydney Brown - 6 starts in 2 years (probably replaced by 2024 class)
• Nakobe Dean - 15 starts in 3 years
• Milton Williams - 19 starts in 4 years
• Davion Taylor- 7 starts, not in the NFL anymore
• Rasual Douglas - 18 starts in 3 years, then cut
• Isaac Seumalo - 60 starts in 7 years
• Jordan Hicks - 40 starts in 4 years, not re-signed
• Josh Huff - 6 starts in 3 years and cut, not in the NFL anymore

None of these guys made a pro bowl with the team and most never held down a starting spot. I’d say Seumalo and Milton are hits. We can throw in Dean if you want, but I’d bet against him remaining on the team. Roseman has the advantage of good coaching and ownership too. He also inherited a team that was championship caliber with the luxury of veterans who lead the locker room and set expectations and can help develop players. Milton for example, had plenty of strong defensive linemen to learn from. Who knows what he’d be if he were drafted by the Bears. But honestly, he’s the impressive hit on the list. The other debatable guys are LBs and a G, which are routinely found late in drafts.

This isn’t to say Roseman is bad, or these players are so bad and don’t fill a role, but people act like these guys have magical powers and glamorize what they accomplish as if they’re stars. GMs are missing on a lot of picks, even the best GMs.

Cmon man.

 

[dabears70]

Of course he doesn't bat 1000 thousand but he's built that team up year over year instead of pitching a fit and getting rid of quality players that were actually on the roster.

You know Monty Daniels Mooney Smith RRH etc.

He drafted Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson.

 

[ndgt10]

It doesn’t sound like Jones is going to be ready to go for training camp. Please stop the lunacy and take a LT at 10. At this point, if Campbell, Membou, and my guy Banks are gone, I’d be fine with Conerly too.

Bears LT Braxton Jones Expected To Be Limited In Training Camp

Braxton Jones continues to make progress in his rehab from ankle surgery, but he will likely not be cleared in time for the Bears' training camp.

www.profootballrumors.com

I would not be fine with Conerly at 10.

 

[playthrough2001]

Conerly Jr. v Abdul Carter

 

[Discus fish salesman]

It doesn’t sound like Jones is going to be ready to go for training camp. Please stop the lunacy and take a LT at 10. At this point, if Campbell, Membou, and my guy Banks are gone, I’d be fine with Conerly too.

Bears LT Braxton Jones Expected To Be Limited In Training Camp

Braxton Jones continues to make progress in his rehab from ankle surgery, but he will likely not be cleared in time for the Bears' training camp.

www.profootballrumors.com

I'd rather sign dj Humphries if they don't feel like LT is the best player at 10. To me it's madness to reach out of need there if they like a player better and actually do like Braxton or Kiran.

I like banks. I really don't like conerly. But I want this staff to take the player they feel they can utilize to have the biggest impact at 10. They shouldn't be reaching for LT if they don't really like the player.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I'd rather sign dj Humphries if they don't feel like LT is the best player at 10. To me it's madness to reach out of need there if they like a player better and actually do like Braxton or Kiran.

I like banks. I really don't like conerly. But I want this staff to take the player they feel they can utilize to have the biggest impact at 10. They shouldn't be reaching for LT if they don't really like the player.

Why would you not like the guy who played well vs the best edge in this class?

 

[DefNextYear]

I think he was being facetious

Cmon man.

Well, egg on my face…

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Why would you not like the guy who played well vs the best edge in this class?

Carter still really isn't a power rusher which is what conerly struggles more with. Against bigger edges it seemed like he ended up in Gabriel's lap a lot.

Conerly is similar to Braxton to me except a worse run blocker.

Ersery also played well against Carter but also has a better anchor in pass protection.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Well, egg on my face…

It is Easter

 

[DefNextYear]

It’s weird to me that current betting odds are
-950 Hunter is 2
-600 Abdul is 3
-950 Campbell is 4

Not sure if I’m missing it, but 4 doesn’t seem like it can be more confident than 3. If Abdul doesn’t go 3, then he’s for sure going 4… so can’t be -950 on Campbell. Seems off.

 

[bamainatlanta]

It is Easter

No religion in the bears forum.

Because it’s obvious that God doesn’t give a rat’s ass about Bears fans.

 

[bamainatlanta]

He drafted Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson.

Also drafted Whiteside over Metcalf. And Dillard (traded up) over several other good players.

 

[playthrough2001]

I'd rather sign dj Humphries if they don't feel like LT is the best player at 10. To me it's madness to reach out of need there if they like a player better and actually do like Braxton or Kiran.

I like banks. I really don't like conerly. But I want this staff to take the player they feel they can utilize to have the biggest impact at 10. They shouldn't be reaching for LT if they don't really like the player.

I’m pretty sure they like him. I don’t know if they like him at 10. I do not want to be counting on Kiran if Jones can’t go.

I don’t want to get shut out by 39 for a reasonable option.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

He drafted Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson.

No shyte Sherlock. Congratulations on remembering that fact from @bamainatlanta who has hammered it home to everyone on this board over the past year. Remarkably that fuckup didn't keep them from winning one of two Super Bowl appearances.