Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - Loveland - Number 2 Scheme Fit

[bears51/40]

I have no real idea but my guess is Poles and co don't want to move Wright to left tackle. I just don't think they want to **** with the guy at this point in his career. He's looking good and he's improving and I don't think they want to mess with that. To my mind, he's staying at RT.

And I'm also guessing they wouldn't want to move Membou from RT either.

Agree, just draft that pure LT at 10.

 

[Katesboobsrgr8]

Agree, just draft that pure LT at 10.

Who is that pure LT? This draft sucks for tackles, it's s really weak position group. I really want a LT myself, but not at the opportunity cost of Grant or Green for a group of guys that don't project to be impact players at LT, if they can even stick.

 

[alswank87]

I would have to go back to the article to see how that was determined but as you can see the range is massive, doesn’t seem wise to put much weight into an average of 1-145. The variance is too large.

That also excluded those that didn’t return.

It also gives no information as to quality of play. Were they back ups? Bad players? Pro bowlers? Did they return to a different position? Did they start?

All the measured was did they play

Well, you made it seem like it was a career ender. 145 games is a long time.

 

[SugarWalls]

Well, you made it seem like it was a career ender. 145 games is a long time.

The range was 1 game to 145 games. Without the full article it’s hard to garner much info. What if 7 people played 1 game and then a few played 10 and then 1 person played 145 games, is a massive outlier, and skews the average.

Hard to say without the full article

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Who is that pure LT? This draft sucks for tackles, it's s really weak position group. I really want a LT myself, but not at the opportunity cost of Grant or Green for a group of guys that don't project to be impact players at LT, if they can even stick.

Banks.

 

[alswank87]

The range was 1 game to 145 games. Without the full article it’s hard to garner much info. What if 7 people played 1 game and then a few played 10 and then 1 person played 145 games, is a massive outlier, and skews the average.

Hard to say without the full article

You can say 1 person played 145 games after a similar injury.

 

[SugarWalls]

You can say 1 person played 145 games after a similar injury.

Are you literally Jim Carrey from dumb and dumber or just playing a joke?

 

[knoxville7]

Are you literally Jim Carrey from dumb and dumber or just playing a joke?

at least Jim's character was funny. this guy aint

 

[alswank87]

Are you literally Jim Carrey from dumb and dumber or just playing a joke?

I’m saying your premise is wrong that Simmons career is done because of his injury.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I’m saying your premise is wrong that Simmons career is done because of his injury.

Nobody said that. The data doesn't favor a long career for him though which should be a pretty big concern at #10

 

[SugarWalls]

I’m saying your premise is wrong that Simmons career is done because of his injury.

My premise is that statistically speaking the odds are against him having a long healthy career. The article you posted supports this.

Is it possible he returns, is a good player, has a 10 year career? Yeah sure, it’s like 1 in a million.

I’m saying there’s a chance

 

[Katesboobsrgr8]

Banks.

Isn't he dropping like crazy? I thought I'd read NFL evaluators were almost universally seeing him as a guard.

 

[GoBears]

If we don't draft a lineman, I'm going into full-on penis disattachment mode.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Isn't he dropping like crazy? I thought I'd read NFL evaluators were almost universally seeing him as a guard.

He just got a visit scheduled to Atlanta who picks at 15. NFL.com’s latest mock has him at 11, Mike Tice who coached OL for years said he was a LT.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

He just got a visit scheduled to Atlanta who picks at 15. NFL.com’s latest mock has him at 11, Mike Tice who coached OL for years said he was a LT.

Atl isn't picking him at 15 or for LT

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Atl isn't picking him at 15 or for LT

Soooooo…… smoke screen?

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Soooooo…… smoke screen?

Or they think it's possible he falls enough to get him later for RT/G? Idk. But they have a LT signed through 28 and need pass rush desperately or anything on defense

 

[playthrough2001]

I like this! Fairchild from Georgia and Majors from Texas have top 30 visits with the Bears too.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1907123800116015596

 

[EDPeezy]

Pretty sure after they drafted Wright and I was reading what I could find about him I saw something about how he was moved to LT his junior season and was horrible. He was moved back to RT senior season and had a great year.

If he couldn’t hold up at LT in college there’s no way in hell he will in the NFL.

 

[--CyBear--]

Results: Eleven of the 24 injuries had antecedent symptoms. The most common mechanism of injury was an eccentric overload to a contracting extensor mechanism. Physical examination demonstrated a palpable defect in all players. Twenty-two were complete ruptures, and 2 were partial injuries. Three of the 24 cases had a concomitant anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury. In 19 of the 24 injuries, the player returned to participate in at least 1 game in the NFL. Players who returned were drafted, on average, in the fourth round, while those who failed to return to play were drafted, on average, in the sixth round. Of those players who returned to play, the average number of games played was 45.4, with a range of 1 to 142 games

Lmao from the article you shared.

They noted successful return as participating in 1 game in the NFL. Nice!

They also noted that the majority were day 3 picks so may have been meh to begin with. Say a fringe starter is out for a year, Team replaces him with the next project or drafts his replacement in the offseason and see you later. I personally don't think they go LT in one anyway but I wouldn't take Simmons off my board unless the docs told me to.