Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - Loveland - Number 2 Scheme Fit

[Nelly]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1914327651520778526

I pointed this out before, but... yea... Jeanty absolutely should not go 5 overall. In fact, I think he'd have the 2nd highest guaranteed money behind Saquon. It's just absolutely terrible resource management. If a team does this, the guy better be Barry Sanders and he better be the Barry Sanders that wins playoff games.

Could you name 5 other running backs in the NFL right now that you'd rather have over Jeanty though? Barkley is the only slam dunk probably. Henry is getting way up there on age and miles. CMC has always had injury issues. Gibbs is dynamic but you question his ability to shoulder the load. Others in the conversation would be who? ...Bijan Robinson, James Cook, Bucky Irving, Jonathan Taylor, Josh Jacobs? The list isn't very long.

That said, that's not me advocating for trading up for him. Please for the love of god don't do that Poles. There's too much RB value available later.

 

[TL1961]

He’s miserable for sure but he’s nowhere near as insufferable as the two Lion trolls.

But people here can’t stand not having them in any particular thread.

 

[playthrough2001]

But people here can’t stand not having them in any particular thread.

Not me. That’s why this thread is marked Bear Fans Only. I can’t stand either of them.

My thread on Poles had the same designation.

It truly improves the dialogue excluding them.

 

[Les Grossman]

@DefNextYear This would mess up our bet!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1911928199799574969

He looks little

 

[pseudonym]

Let's say Jeanty does NOT go 5 or 6 and the Bears are remaining patient. Once he makes it past LVR, do we trade up to secure him or do we feel like 7-9 wouldn't take him there? NYJ (Hall/Allen), CAR (Chuba), NOS (Kamara/Miller). LVR will certainly take a RB (Mostert can't be their man) but will they take him at #5?

 

[playthrough2001]

He looks little

I sure as **** would not want to be tackled by him but he kind of looks small now that you mention it.

 

[Les Grossman]

Let's say Jeanty does NOT go 5 or 6 and the Bears are remaining patient. Once he makes it past LVR, do we trade up to secure him or do we feel like 7-9 wouldn't take him there? NYJ (Hall/Allen), CAR (Chuba), NOS (Kamara/Miller). LVR will certainly take a RB (Mostert can't be their man) but will they take him at #5?

Not advocating for Jeanty necessarily, but I would hope Poles learned his lesson last year and just let the draft come to you. Odunze fell right into his lap after Cunningham supposedly talked him off the ledge of trading up for him.

 

[bamainatlanta]

I knew Ryan Pace was still hanging around here. What’s it like living in Atlanta?

Everything is yellow this time of the year

 

[playthrough2001]

I hope Gabriel gets drafted by Cleveland. He wants to play inside or in warm weather.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1873801711485440399

 

[DefNextYear]

He only played 12 games last year. He had 11.5 sacks in ‘23.

Yea, I like the player... based on very little knowledge. I feel like they'll want high end return cause he's an edge that was just selected high.

 

[knoxville7]

Schefter listed the following players – 13 on rookie deals and six veterans – as ones who could be traded ahead of or during the draft this weekend:

Will Levis, QB, Titans
Treylon Burks, WR, Titans
Kayvon Thibodeaux, Edge, Giants
Evan Neal, OL, Giants
Jalin Hyatt, WR, Giants
Sam Howell, QB, Seahawks
Tyree Wilson, Edge, Raiders
Greg Newsome II, CB, Browns
Travis Etienne Jr., RB, Jaguars
Odafe Oweh, Edge, Ravens
George Pickens, WR, Steelers
Rachaad White, RB, Bucs
Kayshon Boutte, WR, Patriots
Jalen Ramsey, CB, Dolphins
Jaire Alexander, CB, Packers
Kirk Cousins, QB, Falcons
Dallas Goedert, TE, Eagles
Mark Andrews, TE, Ravens
Trey Hendrickson, Edge, Bengals

Adam Schefter's NFL draft intel: Everything he's hearing ahead of Round 1

Where could Shedeur Sanders land? Which teams could make trades? What's going on with Kirk Cousins? Here's what Adam Schefter is hearing.

www.espn.com

i know, i know...homer time....but, if im the bears and i can buy low on Jalin Hyatt...i consider it

adding that speed in the slot and getting plus matchups deep down field thanks to teams focusing on DJ and Rome, seems beneficial to me. dunno what it takes, but id wager a 6th or 7th round pick used to trade for him would yield more value than whomstever they would draft in that spot

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I've been looking for Braxton updates but have only seen the one where Ben says he is on schedule and might not be ready for the start of tc.

There was an interview with the OL coach where he said his injury was a set back but that got pulled from YouTube

 

[DefNextYear]

Could you name 5 other running backs in the NFL right now that you'd rather have over Jeanty though? Barkley is the only slam dunk probably. Henry is getting way up there on age and miles. CMC has always had injury issues. Gibbs is dynamic but you question his ability to shoulder the load. Others in the conversation would be who? ...Bijan Robinson, James Cook, Bucky Irving, Jonathan Taylor, Josh Jacobs? The list isn't very long.

That said, that's not me advocating for trading up for him. Please for the love of god don't do that Poles. There's too much RB value available later.

That's the wrong question. The point is you're overpaying a rookie relative to his peers. I rather draft the 35-45th paid OT than the 6th RB. You want to hit on a player and have the "rookie window" to maximize a roster. Guys like JJ and Chase were top WRs in the league, being paid a fraction of the top WRs... guys like Nabers, BTJ, and Rome can be that too. With Jeanty, he BETTER be a top 5 back or you not only wasted opportunity to save money, you wasted opportunity for a premium position. I would rather save a ton at a premium position and pay market value for a back, even if that back is not as good as Jeanty. Further, it just so happens that I can pay even less and have a great rookie back by taking one in the 2nd or 3rd. The cost to say I have a top 5 guy that people would want to have is not worth it at pick 5/6. I can have a top 10 back and top 15 LT instead of a top 5 back and no LT at all. And, another question is how long do you expect Jeanty will be top 5 on that theoretical list?

This is all easy to see and why teams have gone away from RBs. People seem to think that Jeanty is the only RB to be considered to be a stud coming out. Just like two decades ago, the Bears took Benson in a loaded class with Ronnie Brown and Cadillac. It was like two decades ago that Reggie Bush was supposed to change the game. He was supposed to be the greatest thing the NFL would ever see. McFadden was a rockstar... Trent Richardson? Jeanty isn't the first guy to have a lot of success, and hype. He won't be the last either.

 

[DefNextYear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1914351524982988921

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1914362976041136325

Depending on what side of the fence you're on, the legend/hack is back.

 

[playthrough2001]

That's the wrong question. The point is you're overpaying a rookie relative to his peers. I rather draft the 35-45th paid OT than the 6th RB. You want to hit on a player and have the "rookie window" to maximize a roster. Guys like JJ and Chase were top WRs in the league, being paid a fraction of the top WRs... guys like Nabers, BTJ, and Rome can be that too. With Jeanty, he BETTER be a top 5 back or you not only wasted opportunity to save money, you wasted opportunity for a premium position cause there's not only the pure financial mistake, there's also the opportunity costs. I would rather save a ton at a premium position and pay market value for a back, even if that back is not as good as Jeanty. Further, it just so happens that I can pay even less and have a great rookie back by taking one in the 2nd or 3rd. The cost to say I have a top 5 guy that people would want to have is not worth it at pick 5/6. I can have a top 10 back and top 15 LT instead of a top 5 back and no LT at all. And, another question is how long do you expect Jeanty will be top 5 on that theoretical list?

This is all easy to see and why teams have gone away from RBs. People seem to think that Jeanty is the only RB to be considered to be a stud coming out. Just like two decades ago, the Bears took Benson in a loaded class with Ronnie Brown and Cadillac. It was like two decades ago that Reggie Bush was supposed to change the game. He was supposed to be the greatest thing the NFL would ever see. McFadden was a rockstar... Trent Richardson? Jeanty isn't the first guy to have a lot of success, and hype. He won't be the last either.

Right now, this is a great scenario for me.

10. Banks Jr.
39. Williams DT (I think Grant is gone)
41. JT OSU DE - might be high but I like him. I like Burch too.
72. Mukuba
Round 5 - RJ Harvey

 

[BearDown104]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1914351524982988921

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1914362976041136325

Depending on what side of the fence you're on, the legend/hack is back.

Dude‘s a legend!!

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Offensive linemen​

I wouldn’t be surprised if more than a quarter of the first round is devoted to offensive linemen. At tackle, I’d view LSU’s Will Campbell, Missouri’s Armand Membou and Texas’s Kelvin Banks Jr. as first-round locks. At guard, I see Alabama’s Tyler Booker and North Dakota State’s Grey Zabel that way. After that, I think Oregon OT Josh Conerly, Ohio State OT Josh Simmons, Ohio State G Donovan Jackson and Arizona G Jonah Savaiinaea have a great shot to land in the first round. And Georgia C Jared Wilson has an outside chance to make it 10 offensive linemen in the first 32 picks.

-Breer

 

[TL1961]

i know, i know...homer time....but, if im the bears and i can buy low on Jalin Hyatt...i consider it

adding that speed in the slot and getting plus matchups deep down field thanks to teams focusing on DJ and Rome, seems beneficial to me. dunno what it takes, but id wager a 6th or 7th round pick used to trade for him would yield more value than whomstever they would draft in that spot

Guys who put up yardage totals of 62 yards in a single season don't hit the open market that often! Gotta jump on that!

 

[DefNextYear]

Right now, this is a great scenario for me.

10. Banks Jr.
39. Williams DT (I think Grant is gone)
41. JT OSU DE - might be high but I like him. I like Burch too.
72. Mukuba
Round 5 - RJ Harvey

I like all those players... I actually really JT for this team. He's my favorite edge considering draft position and everything.

I will say I don't think the Bears will take Tyleik. I posted before, but Allen hasn't had a guy 330lbs in the last decade. The biggest dude was the first he inherited in NO and cut him the following year. I think he was 327lbs. Of his top rotation players (3 positions, each year), I think 5 were over 315 lbs. So that's 5/30 or about 17%. They never led the team in snaps and were last (of 3) in 3 of those 5. I'd love to be wrong though, cause I like both Grant and Tyleik... but I'd bet against them taking a 330 lb DT.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Offensive linemen​

I wouldn’t be surprised if more than a quarter of the first round is devoted to offensive linemen. At tackle, I’d view LSU’s Will Campbell, Missouri’s Armand Membou and Texas’s Kelvin Banks Jr. as first-round locks. At guard, I see Alabama’s Tyler Booker and North Dakota State’s Grey Zabel that way. After that, I think Oregon OT Josh Conerly, Ohio State OT Josh Simmons, Ohio State G Donovan Jackson and Arizona G Jonah Savaiinaea have a great shot to land in the first round. And Georgia C Jared Wilson has an outside chance to make it 10 offensive linemen in the first 32 picks.

-Breer

Breer is a tard. That many OL aren't going in round 1.