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Schefter listed the following players – 13 on rookie deals and six veterans – as ones who could be traded ahead of or during the draft this weekend:

Will Levis, QB, Titans
Treylon Burks, WR, Titans
Kayvon Thibodeaux, Edge, Giants
Evan Neal, OL, Giants
Jalin Hyatt, WR, Giants
Sam Howell, QB, Seahawks
Tyree Wilson, Edge, Raiders
Greg Newsome II, CB, Browns
Travis Etienne Jr., RB, Jaguars
Odafe Oweh, Edge, Ravens
George Pickens, WR, Steelers
Rachaad White, RB, Bucs
Kayshon Boutte, WR, Patriots
Jalen Ramsey, CB, Dolphins
Jaire Alexander, CB, Packers
Kirk Cousins, QB, Falcons
Dallas Goedert, TE, Eagles
Mark Andrews, TE, Ravens
Trey Hendrickson, Edge, Bengals

i know, i know...homer time....but, if im the bears and i can buy low on Jalin Hyatt...i consider it

adding that speed in the slot and getting plus matchups deep down field thanks to teams focusing on DJ and Rome, seems beneficial to me. dunno what it takes, but id wager a 6th or 7th round pick used to trade for him would yield more value than whomstever they would draft in that spot
 

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I've been looking for Braxton updates but have only seen the one where Ben says he is on schedule and might not be ready for the start of tc.
There was an interview with the OL coach where he said his injury was a set back but that got pulled from YouTube
 

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Could you name 5 other running backs in the NFL right now that you'd rather have over Jeanty though? Barkley is the only slam dunk probably. Henry is getting way up there on age and miles. CMC has always had injury issues. Gibbs is dynamic but you question his ability to shoulder the load. Others in the conversation would be who? ...Bijan Robinson, James Cook, Bucky Irving, Jonathan Taylor, Josh Jacobs? The list isn't very long.

That said, that's not me advocating for trading up for him. Please for the love of god don't do that Poles. There's too much RB value available later.
That's the wrong question. The point is you're overpaying a rookie relative to his peers. I rather draft the 35-45th paid OT than the 6th RB. You want to hit on a player and have the "rookie window" to maximize a roster. Guys like JJ and Chase were top WRs in the league, being paid a fraction of the top WRs... guys like Nabers, BTJ, and Rome can be that too. With Jeanty, he BETTER be a top 5 back or you not only wasted opportunity to save money, you wasted opportunity for a premium position. I would rather save a ton at a premium position and pay market value for a back, even if that back is not as good as Jeanty. Further, it just so happens that I can pay even less and have a great rookie back by taking one in the 2nd or 3rd. The cost to say I have a top 5 guy that people would want to have is not worth it at pick 5/6. I can have a top 10 back and top 15 LT instead of a top 5 back and no LT at all. And, another question is how long do you expect Jeanty will be top 5 on that theoretical list?

This is all easy to see and why teams have gone away from RBs. People seem to think that Jeanty is the only RB to be considered to be a stud coming out. Just like two decades ago, the Bears took Benson in a loaded class with Ronnie Brown and Cadillac. It was like two decades ago that Reggie Bush was supposed to change the game. He was supposed to be the greatest thing the NFL would ever see. McFadden was a rockstar... Trent Richardson? Jeanty isn't the first guy to have a lot of success, and hype. He won't be the last either.
 
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That's the wrong question. The point is you're overpaying a rookie relative to his peers. I rather draft the 35-45th paid OT than the 6th RB. You want to hit on a player and have the "rookie window" to maximize a roster. Guys like JJ and Chase were top WRs in the league, being paid a fraction of the top WRs... guys like Nabers, BTJ, and Rome can be that too. With Jeanty, he BETTER be a top 5 back or you not only wasted opportunity to save money, you wasted opportunity for a premium position cause there's not only the pure financial mistake, there's also the opportunity costs. I would rather save a ton at a premium position and pay market value for a back, even if that back is not as good as Jeanty. Further, it just so happens that I can pay even less and have a great rookie back by taking one in the 2nd or 3rd. The cost to say I have a top 5 guy that people would want to have is not worth it at pick 5/6. I can have a top 10 back and top 15 LT instead of a top 5 back and no LT at all. And, another question is how long do you expect Jeanty will be top 5 on that theoretical list?

This is all easy to see and why teams have gone away from RBs. People seem to think that Jeanty is the only RB to be considered to be a stud coming out. Just like two decades ago, the Bears took Benson in a loaded class with Ronnie Brown and Cadillac. It was like two decades ago that Reggie Bush was supposed to change the game. He was supposed to be the greatest thing the NFL would ever see. McFadden was a rockstar... Trent Richardson? Jeanty isn't the first guy to have a lot of success, and hype. He won't be the last either.


Right now, this is a great scenario for me.

10. Banks Jr.
39. Williams DT (I think Grant is gone)
41. JT OSU DE - might be high but I like him. I like Burch too.
72. Mukuba
Round 5 - RJ Harvey
 

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Offensive linemen

I wouldn’t be surprised if more than a quarter of the first round is devoted to offensive linemen. At tackle, I’d view LSU’s Will Campbell, Missouri’s Armand Membou and Texas’s Kelvin Banks Jr. as first-round locks. At guard, I see Alabama’s Tyler Booker and North Dakota State’s Grey Zabel that way. After that, I think Oregon OT Josh Conerly, Ohio State OT Josh Simmons, Ohio State G Donovan Jackson and Arizona G Jonah Savaiinaea have a great shot to land in the first round. And Georgia C Jared Wilson has an outside chance to make it 10 offensive linemen in the first 32 picks.

-Breer
 

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i know, i know...homer time....but, if im the bears and i can buy low on Jalin Hyatt...i consider it

adding that speed in the slot and getting plus matchups deep down field thanks to teams focusing on DJ and Rome, seems beneficial to me. dunno what it takes, but id wager a 6th or 7th round pick used to trade for him would yield more value than whomstever they would draft in that spot
Guys who put up yardage totals of 62 yards in a single season don't hit the open market that often! Gotta jump on that!
 

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Right now, this is a great scenario for me.

10. Banks Jr.
39. Williams DT (I think Grant is gone)
41. JT OSU DE - might be high but I like him. I like Burch too.
72. Mukuba
Round 5 - RJ Harvey
I like all those players... I actually really JT for this team. He's my favorite edge considering draft position and everything.

I will say I don't think the Bears will take Tyleik. I posted before, but Allen hasn't had a guy 330lbs in the last decade. The biggest dude was the first he inherited in NO and cut him the following year. I think he was 327lbs. Of his top rotation players (3 positions, each year), I think 5 were over 315 lbs. So that's 5/30 or about 17%. They never led the team in snaps and were last (of 3) in 3 of those 5. I'd love to be wrong though, cause I like both Grant and Tyleik... but I'd bet against them taking a 330 lb DT.
 
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Offensive linemen

I wouldn’t be surprised if more than a quarter of the first round is devoted to offensive linemen. At tackle, I’d view LSU’s Will Campbell, Missouri’s Armand Membou and Texas’s Kelvin Banks Jr. as first-round locks. At guard, I see Alabama’s Tyler Booker and North Dakota State’s Grey Zabel that way. After that, I think Oregon OT Josh Conerly, Ohio State OT Josh Simmons, Ohio State G Donovan Jackson and Arizona G Jonah Savaiinaea have a great shot to land in the first round. And Georgia C Jared Wilson has an outside chance to make it 10 offensive linemen in the first 32 picks.

-Breer
Breer is a tard. That many OL aren't going in round 1.
 

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I like all those players... I actually really JT for this team. He's my favorite edge considering draft position and everything.

I will say I don't think the Bears will take Tyleik. I posted before, but Allen hasn't had a guy 330lbs in the last decade. The biggest dude was the first he inherited in NO and cut him the following year. I think he was 227lbs. Of his top rotation players (3 positions, each year), I think 5 were over 315 lbs. So that's 5/30 or about 17%. They never led the team in snaps and were last (of 3) in 3 of those 5. I'd love to be wrong though, cause I like both Grant and Tyleik... but I'd bet against them taking a 330 lb DT.

TBH, I'd be happy if they got Jack Sawyer in the 3rd.
 

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i know, i know...homer time....but, if im the bears and i can buy low on Jalin Hyatt...i consider it

adding that speed in the slot and getting plus matchups deep down field thanks to teams focusing on DJ and Rome, seems beneficial to me. dunno what it takes, but id wager a 6th or 7th round pick used to trade for him would yield more value than whomstever they would draft in that spot
Homer Simpson is that you???

I actually liked Hyatt a lot coming out, but he has something like 400 yards in 2 seasons. I get the QB situation has been bad, but that’s not good and probably doesn’t warrant even a late round pick.
 

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Homer Simpson is that you???

I actually liked Hyatt a lot coming out, but he has something like 400 yards in 2 seasons. I get the QB situation has been bad, but that’s not good and probably doesn’t warrant even a late round pick.
see, i wasnt high on hyatt coming out. felt he was a 4th - 5th round pick range quality

but, he hasnt seen the field much in NY and hte QB position has been dreadful there. for a 6th or 7th round pick, i would take that flier and add his speed to the offense
 

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see, i wasnt high on hyatt coming out. felt he was a 4th - 5th round pick range quality

but, he hasnt seen the field much in NY and hte QB position has been dreadful there. for a 6th or 7th round pick, i would take that flier and add his speed to the offense
Generally I couldn’t care less about 6th or 7th round picks, so I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it. This year though, I think they could be valuable if used on a RB. I wouldn’t be opposed to taking 2 this year if the Bears missed out on Jeanty. Like one 2nd or 3rd round RB and another 6th or 7th possibly. Either way, it’s pretty whatever for me if they went the Hyatt trade route
 

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Generally I couldn’t care less about 6th or 7th round picks, so I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it. This year though, I think they could be valuable if used on a RB. I wouldn’t be opposed to taking 2 this year if the Bears missed out on Jeanty. Like one 2nd or 3rd round RB and another 6th or 7th possibly. Either way, it’s pretty whatever for me if they went the Hyatt trade route
You think they’re drafting more than one rb?
 

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I said I wouldn’t be opposed if they missed out on jeanty. Like if they went skattebo in round 3, I could see then drafting a speedy and more athletic RB in round 7 if they liked someone.
God I hope we don't draft Skattebo, much less in the 3rd round. Tons of miles on that dude and he's slower than David Montgomery.
 

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