Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only

[alswank87]

He was but that wasn't the point they were making, the point was just that a RB that ran a slow 40 still went to the NFL and became a star RB in the NFL.

The NFL wasn’t quite as fast back then either.

 

[Canth]

He was but that wasn't the point they were making, the point was just that a RB that ran a slow 40 still went to the NFL and became a star RB in the NFL.

A few things:

1. I think Davis was very lucky to be the right guy, at the right time. He had one hell 3-4 year run in the league. It was also over 25 years ago. It's pretty dumb to think that just because Terrell Davis was a needle in the haystack a lifetime ago that suddenly a guy that is slow on tape and slow in the 40 will be the next Davis.

2. Davis was aided by that Denver team being just a great team - the OL, the scheme, and having a HOF QB. Again, right guy at the right place and time.

3. I do think some guys stand out where they are strong in a way that they do not lose a step when the pads come on. I can't remember now, but I would not be shocked to see Davis fall into that category. I always felt Urlacher was also like that - Urlacher was never considered 'slow', but his 40 time was 4.57 and yet you would see him run down guys that had much faster 40's. I do believe at least some of that was that those smaller, faster guys slowed a bit when the pads came on and Urlacher just didn't slow down with pads on. Again, I think Davis was probably similar.

4. IMO, overall speed of the game is faster now then it was 25-30 years ago. Hard to say how a Terrell Davis would be in today's game when modern linebackers now run 4.5 and sub 4.5 40's consistently and with the strength to keep the speed with pads on.

 

[RacerX]

Yes, it was a terrible pick.

For several months leading up to the draft that year my sig was "anyone but Benson", i pre-cringed cause I had no doubt our r3trd FO was clueless on true player evals and metrics and instead just drafted based on somewhat meaningless stats.

 

[Rawk]

Its smokescreen season but Ben really seems to love him « hes a football player ». I wanted Bowers last year and I would be happy with Warren. I think he would be a great toy for coach Ben offense.

 

[sevvy]

This interview made me have to pee.

 

[msadows]

Its smokescreen season but Ben really seems to love him « hes a football player ». I wanted Bowers last year and I would be happy with Warren. I think he would be a great toy for coach Ben offense.

Cole Kmet is a great toy for bens offense

 

[TL1961]

I think Braxton Jones is about to have a career year. I’d still be for drafting his replacement in the first round. I don’t want to pay him a load of money and then watch him go soft.

Why do you think that?

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Really good Dline discussion here. Have to scroll through a bit to get there

 

[alswank87]

Why do you think that?

It’s a contract year. He’s putting in extra work to come back strong.

 

[TL1961]

It’s a contract year. He’s putting in extra work to come back strong.

He's been in a boot until a week ago. Where do you get the info he's "putting in extra work"?

Is it more work than last off season? If so, how? And how do you know?

My point is.....he's coming off an injury. He may have his best season. He may have similar to previous seasons. He may not be fully healthy when the season starts.

 

[playthrough2001]

He's been in a boot until a week ago. Where do you get the info he's "putting in extra work"?

Is it more work than last off season? If so, how? And how do you know?

My point is.....he's coming off an injury. He may have his best season. He may have similar to previous seasons. He may not be fully healthy when the season starts.

I’m with you. Also, if it could be validated that he’s putting in extra work, the Bears should still cover their asses.

After overhauling the IOL, they can’t leave LT to chance.

 

[fridges fatboys]

If they draft Tyler Warren it reeks of Poles all over. Basically a 1 year wonder who won't even work out for teams. Why would you ever take a TE with a top 10 pick unless you knew that they were really fast?

 

[alswank87]

He's been in a boot until a week ago. Where do you get the info he's "putting in extra work"?

Is it more work than last off season? If so, how? And how do you know?

My point is.....he's coming off an injury. He may have his best season. He may have similar to previous seasons. He may not be fully healthy when the season starts.

This next contract is going to be his highest paid. You’re right, injuries may derail him, but if he stays healthy, I think he has a great year.

 

[TL1961]

This next contract is going to be his highest paid. You’re right, injuries may derail him, but if he stays healthy, I think he has a great year.

If all these players just magically play so much better with a contract on the line, GMs should give everybody one year contracts.

 

[Xplosive]

If they draft Tyler Warren it reeks of Poles all over. Basically a 1 year wonder who won't even work out for teams. Why would you ever take a TE with a top 10 pick unless you knew that they were really fast?

Warren reeks of Poles, but not the HC that was speaking highly of him?

 

[playthrough2001]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1902812304179339726

Kyle Long chimes in on Membou.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1906813154304168130

 

[playthrough2001]

 

[--CyBear--]

Deone walker has a spine fracture - pars defect resulting in spondylosis.

These fractures are chronic with pain that comes and goes. He can get to a point where the pain is 0 to minimal, but with the stress of playing football (especially at DL) he is probably going to have to play through pain his entire career.

He is not draftable in the top 4 rounds IMO.

Issue is that he said he was in a lot of pain and generally, the pain from that is not the actual fracture but an association to it. Dude will definitely see some MRIs before this draft.

Skattebo and Monty have the same 40 time. Monty had over 1k total yards each of the last 2 seasons and 25 total TDs over that span.

Other than slow and able to shed a block, they are different backs. Not a qualitative assessment but I don't think he goes in 2. Monty went in 3 in a weaker RB draft.

 

[--CyBear--]

LT is our biggest need. We have healthy experienced vets starting at pretty much every other position. (Maybe not safety as Briskers brane worries me)

But until I see Braxton 100% healthy I will say this is need #1.

I don't disagree as an upgrade there is also viable though I'm not a Jones hater. Thing is, the staff have a VG understanding of the injury and where to expect him to be. They are also used to players going down and returning so may view this completely differently. That said, it's a nice place to upgrade as you can't have too good a LT and Jones will need real $ after this year.

 

[Luke]

If all these players just magically play so much better with a contract on the line, GMs should give everybody one year contracts.

I know he was dinged up a bit last year, but Montez says hi