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Non sequiturThis is called mental gymnastics
Non sequiturThis is called mental gymnastics
I cant correct 18 years of poor education over a message board. Nothing you said changes the fact that it is an opinion. Further PFF contradicts itself. The Bears were 17th in pass blocking last year ahead of the Lions who were 19th. That is average not bad. They were 22nd in run blocking while the Lions were 19th. So the Lions and Bears were quite similar overall. So by this logic then the Lions were a shit OL last year.It is how it works.
Fact-they were bad last year.
They are bad until they are proven otherwise.
Final 2021 NFL Offensive Line Rankings | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF
With tackle Tyron Smith and guard Zack Martin leading the way, the Dallas Cowboys finish the 2021 regular season as the top offensive line in the NFL.www.pff.com
Fact: you lost your two best players on the O-line from last year.
Fact: you replaced them with a crapfest of 6th and 7th round rookies and a middling Lucas Patrick, who is a marginal upgrade over Mustipher
C Lucas Patrick | 57.6
C Sam Mustipher | 51.8
But congratulations, Patrick wasn't the worst center in the league last year, only the 3rd worst. Even the lowly Lions backup center graded out significantly higher than Patrick.
So continue your piss poor debate with more if's but's and nut's.
The Bears O-line sucks, I can state it as fact until proven otherwise. On average, only 11 of 154 day three draft picks start more than 8 games their rookie season. The Bears only notable acquisition during FA for the O-line was a rotational depth piece at best, as witnessed by receiving a much smaller contract in FA as the O-lineman the Bears lost. Borom and Jenkins were both hot trash last year. and even significant improvements would only make them marginally serviceable. This is a bottom 1/3 unit, any way you want to try to spin it. And we haven't even begun to address injuries, which will most assuredly happen to at least one "starter" on this unit.
It's a fact until you can prove it is wrong. So far you have failed miserably at that.
I would say Poles IS investing heavily in developmental late round offensive linemen much like some of the best franchises in the NFL, KC, GB, NE to name a few. If anyone of those day three picks steps up it would be an unexpected suprise. I see two or three making the 53 in 2022. in a backup role only.6th and 7th round picks are not investing heavily, it's throwing shit against the wall and hoping something sticks. Poles was flailing in the wind.
That sounds pretty accurate to me if we are speaking @nc0gnet0 language.Just to ensure we on the same page regarding your argument.
So based on the logic in the bold, it is a fact the Lions OL sucks as they graded out similar to the sucky Bears. And since we know starters were injured last year we must assume they will be injured again. So they suck until proven otherwise.
@nc0gnet0 thinks all the Lions players will improve but doesn't think anyone on the Bears will
Why does anyone waste time arguing with this idiot? He'll just disappear once the Lions are dogshit again
It’s fun to argue with him just too see how far he will push his low intelligence. He never fails@nc0gnet0 thinks all the Lions players will improve but doesn't think anyone on the Bears will
Why does anyone waste time arguing with this idiot? He'll just disappear once the Lions are dogshit again
If you quit, he winsDude you are a psycho
imma exit from this vortex
I think, at this point in his career as a rookie, you're not wrong. A rookie that could contribute in the return game and be a force as a runner and a guy who can make plays in space is a force multiplier.He's a cheaper Cordarell Patterson, which in my mind is a good compliment to a strong WR corps but a bad substitute for one.
I hope so
You could have left it like thatGood for him, still was such a head scratching move. Nagy/Pace were cluelessat the QB position
I hope you're rightI think, at this point in his career as a rookie, you're not wrong. A rookie that could contribute in the return game and be a force as a runner and a guy who can make plays in space is a force multiplier.
Now, I think the jury is out on our WR core since we've yet to see them play. If they are average to good, VJJ becomes a force multiplier capable of forcing the D to expose themselves as he goes in motion. They won't be able to
ignore his movement and Jet sweeps.