Official Ray Emery Or Alexander Salak Thread

[tbo41fan]

I agree icehog..I would feel ten times safer with emery since he has experience, but tbh, ill go with whoever plays better in camp

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[TheChicagoFan]

I would like to see Emery win the job because he has experience. It would be a one year thing. This would give Salak the opportunity to get some starting experience for another year, too. It's a win-win for the Hawks as long as Emery can still play. If he doesn't do well in camp, Salak will probably win the backup role.

 

[meathead]

With the way our goalie situation has gone the last few seasons, I wouldn't be surprised to have Ray Emery to be our #1 by the postseason, and to be a complete stud.

He's shown the ability to be a #1 goalie in the past, particularly when he backstopped Ottawa to the Cup finals and with what he did in Anaheim last year. Sounds like he's bounced back from that awful hip condition, and I'm very happy the Hawks have first dibs on him.

what has crawford done wrong to make you say that?
I like emery for 1 year...

 

[DewsSox79]

No kidding there is a big difference from the AHL to the NHL...that isn't the point at all.

Look at goalies that have gone through recent sophomore slumps. They did not know how to be a professional and playing in the AHL you are able to gain that professionalism. Big difference between the AHL/NHL...but an even bigger one between AHL and Juniors/College. They did not know how to mentally prepare for the next season. With all the seasoning that Crawford has gotten in the minors, 5 years as a starter...I don't see an issue with it at all. Being in the minors that long just helped to prepare that much more.

I hear you have scouting experience and coaching experience. Thats pretty swell. Where did you get this experience?

 

[HawkWriter]

I hear you have scouting experience and coaching experience. Thats pretty swell. Where did you get this experience?

Dews, don't you worry about me. You seem like you want to pick a fight with me on everything...threatened or just plain petty? I've been an assistant coach at the midget-major level and I have done some scouting for Juniors/Prep School.

I'd just worry about yourself and your trend for quitting one of these websites and coming back again...for the third or fourth time now?

 

[TheChicagoFan]

Dews, don't you worry about me. You seem like you want to pick a fight with me on everything...threatened or just plain petty? I've been an assistant coach at the midget-major level and I have done some scouting for Juniors/Prep School.

I'd just worry about yourself and your trend for quitting one of these websites and coming back again...for the third or fourth time now?

Ohhh snap. Dews got owned by super smart HawkWriter dude.
:clap:

 

[Capt. Serious]

Dews, don't you worry about me. You seem like you want to pick a fight with me on everything...threatened or just plain petty? I've been an assistant coach at the midget-major level and I have done some scouting for Juniors/Prep School.

I'd just worry about yourself and your trend for quitting one of these websites and coming back again...for the third or fourth time now?

 

[southern_cross_116]

^^^ When comparing Niemi/Salak I was mostly just talking about the experience that they have had in Europe and the AHL. I just wanted to make sure we are on the same page there. You are correct that their contract situations are different.

In the year the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup, Niemi was kept over Crawford for one reason - waivers. Crawford could be sent down and called up with no worries at all. Niemi would have had to pass through waivers to be sent down; a risk the Blackhawks didn't want to take. I actually think Crawford outplayed Niemi in the pre-season but it just made the most sense for the Blackhawks to take the other route. Maybe just like this season, the Blackhawks had to make a decision that had little to do with the players performance on ice.

Fair enough, and I appreciate the comment ( I haven't had much time on this particular site for the past few days- so it has taken awhile to get back to this.

I'd forgotten the waivers part- but now that you mentioned it, it brings it all back, I remembered there being some sort of technicality that basically made the choice for the Hawks, plus I do remember hearing that Crawford did pretty well in camp that pre-season.

 

[DewsSox79]

Ohhh snap. Dews got owned by super smart HawkWriter dude.
:clap:

Dews, don't you worry about me. You seem like you want to pick a fight with me on everything...threatened or just plain petty? I've been an assistant coach at the midget-major level and I have done some scouting for Juniors/Prep School.

I'd just worry about yourself and your trend for quitting one of these websites and coming back again...for the third or fourth time now?

Threatened by what? your goalie knowledge? Yes I am threatened by a midget asst coach, who scouts 10 year old kids for youth hockey and who writes for a "fan" site. So yeah im pretty threatened.

you still cant get over the fact that Huet wasnt the starting goalie for the Stanley Cup run let alone the fact that your boy huet is overseas. I mean cmon now, a scout? How can anyone say they are a scout when they thought Huet was the best goalie against both Bulin and Niemi? I guess a very bad scout. "look coach, that 10 year old goalie is pretty good, but he goes down very quick, maybe if we tell the boys to shoot high we can get some nice goals,whatta think"

Im sure you hawkswriter will fit in very well here. There are a lot of hockey noobs that will be asking you for your opinion here which should stroke that ego a bit.....kinda like PSD. I mean that is the reason you have stayed there so long....those 16 year olds asking about every single player, than agreeing with you on everything. kinda like how icehog follows you around like a little puppy. It has to make you feel good!

Let me know which player this year ( that sucks ) is awesome in your book.....I promise I wont take your scouting seriously.

But hey, you got me, I left messageboards...such a zinger.


ps- what is your take on the pee wee rolling meadows chargers team? How does New Trier look this year? scout for life!

 

[HawkWriter]

^^^ geez, where to start? So angry. I do think it was a pretty good zinger, considering you hold a grudge on one of these websites, against a person you have never met, since 2008 like a little girl! Also, congrats...I was informed that you threw a fit and quit on this website as well...just to come running back again!

I'd like to think that assisting Midget-Majors with moving on to Juniors/College/Prep School is a little better than you make it seem. Also pretty rewarding for myself and something I truly enjoyed. Also, scouting for Juniors/Prep School is also a little more than you make it. It is what it is, you can have your opinion on it.

So, what Dews is referring to is Huet vs Khabi/Niemi. I was very excited about Huet when he signed with the Blackhawks (never liked his contract but loved his style of play). Obviously many others in the NHL did because he was a very sought after goaltender. What wasn't to like at the time? He didn't fold under the pressure in a city like Montreal and he had 3 great seasons there. Then when he was traded to Washington he almost single handily carried them into the playoffs. In the end, Huet definitely had a fall from grace (hell he had a .894 in the Swiss league last year) and I was wrong about Huet being the starting goaltender for this team. So...I'm pretty sure I can get over the fact that I was wrong on something and I'm not batting a thousand here.

Dews bested me on that one, but he shouldn't make it out like he is some genius. He has opinions and as long as they aren't baseless...they should be respected and heard, just like everyone's here. I went back in the PSD database, which for the record I do enjoy that website a lot as he said, to see what Dews was wrong about. I don't hold a grudge since frickin 2008 so I had to do some research.

- Dews was angry that Toews was made captain over Keith/Sharp.
- Dews wanted to trade Byfuglien in 2008
- Dews at first said that Eager was a bum and worthless to the team. He changed his opinion later.
- Dews said (12/2008) that Tallon was a great GM for the Blackhawks, I disagreed with him on that at the time
- Dews got in an argument with me when I said Jack Skille was not going to turn into anything and was a waste of a draft pick (2/2009)
- Dews said (4/2009) that Kane is expandable and will be nothing more than a powerplay specialist. Pretty sure that has been proven wrong...

Look, I could go on and on. It is petty stuff in the end of it. Every scout or analyst is wrong at times. How else would Alexandre Daigle or Patrik Stefan be drafted 1st overall on the biggest stage in the highest level in hockey? I was wrong about Huet, and if I offended anyone by being wrong I am sorry.

Seriously Dews, if you want to be petty, hostile, and act like a teenage girl than you can go ahead and block my posts. It won't offend me one bit.

Now, I'd love to get back to the debate at hand because it is a valid one and one that I currently have at 50/50 for my reasons explained.

 

[LonghornBob]

Ladies, ladies, ladies, can't we all just agree that Luongo is a ***** and try to get along?

;-)

 

[icehogfan08]

^^^ geez, where to start? So angry. I do think it was a pretty good zinger, considering you hold a grudge on one of these websites, against a person you have never met, since 2008 like a little girl! Also, congrats...I was informed that you threw a fit and quit on this website as well...just to come running back again!

I'd like to think that assisting Midget-Majors with moving on to Juniors/College/Prep School is a little better than you make it seem. Also pretty rewarding for myself and something I truly enjoyed. Also, scouting for Juniors/Prep School is also a little more than you make it. It is what it is, you can have your opinion on it.

So, what Dews is referring to is Huet vs Khabi/Niemi. I was very excited about Huet when he signed with the Blackhawks (never liked his contract but loved his style of play). Obviously many others in the NHL did because he was a very sought after goaltender. What wasn't to like at the time? He didn't fold under the pressure in a city like Montreal and he had 3 great seasons there. Then when he was traded to Washington he almost single handily carried them into the playoffs. In the end, Huet definitely had a fall from grace (hell he had a .894 in the Swiss league last year) and I was wrong about Huet being the starting goaltender for this team. So...I'm pretty sure I can get over the fact that I was wrong on something and I'm not batting a thousand here.

Dews bested me on that one, but he shouldn't make it out like he is some genius. He has opinions and as long as they aren't baseless...they should be respected and heard, just like everyone's here. I went back in the PSD database, which for the record I do enjoy that website a lot as he said, to see what Dews was wrong about. I don't hold a grudge since frickin 2008 so I had to do some research.

- Dews was angry that Toews was made captain over Keith/Sharp.
- Dews wanted to trade Byfuglien in 2008
- Dews at first said that Eager was a bum and worthless to the team. He changed his opinion later.
- Dews said (12/2008) that Tallon was a great GM for the Blackhawks, I disagreed with him on that at the time
- Dews got in an argument with me when I said Jack Skille was not going to turn into anything and was a waste of a draft pick (2/2009)
- Dews said (4/2009) that Kane is expandable and will be nothing more than a powerplay specialist. Pretty sure that has been proven wrong...

Look, I could go on and on. It is petty stuff in the end of it. Every scout or analyst is wrong at times. How else would Alexandre Daigle or Patrik Stefan be drafted 1st overall on the biggest stage in the highest level in hockey? I was wrong about Huet, and if I offended anyone by being wrong I am sorry.

Seriously Dews, if you want to be petty, hostile, and act like a teenage girl than you can go ahead and block my posts. It won't offend me one bit.

Now, I'd love to get back to the debate at hand because it is a valid one and one that I currently have at 50/50 for my reasons explained.

So I guess i'm your little puppy

 

[DewsSox79]

^^^ geez, where to start? So angry. I do think it was a pretty good zinger, considering you hold a grudge on one of these websites, against a person you have never met, since 2008 like a little girl! Also, congrats...I was informed that you threw a fit and quit on this website as well...just to come running back again!

I'd like to think that assisting Midget-Majors with moving on to Juniors/College/Prep School is a little better than you make it seem. Also pretty rewarding for myself and something I truly enjoyed. Also, scouting for Juniors/Prep School is also a little more than you make it. It is what it is, you can have your opinion on it.

So, what Dews is referring to is Huet vs Khabi/Niemi. I was very excited about Huet when he signed with the Blackhawks (never liked his contract but loved his style of play). Obviously many others in the NHL did because he was a very sought after goaltender. What wasn't to like at the time? He didn't fold under the pressure in a city like Montreal and he had 3 great seasons there. Then when he was traded to Washington he almost single handily carried them into the playoffs. In the end, Huet definitely had a fall from grace (hell he had a .894 in the Swiss league last year) and I was wrong about Huet being the starting goaltender for this team. So...I'm pretty sure I can get over the fact that I was wrong on something and I'm not batting a thousand here.

Dews bested me on that one, but he shouldn't make it out like he is some genius. He has opinions and as long as they aren't baseless...they should be respected and heard, just like everyone's here. I went back in the PSD database, which for the record I do enjoy that website a lot as he said, to see what Dews was wrong about. I don't hold a grudge since frickin 2008 so I had to do some research.

- Dews was angry that Toews was made captain over Keith/Sharp.
- Dews wanted to trade Byfuglien in 2008
- Dews at first said that Eager was a bum and worthless to the team. He changed his opinion later.
- Dews said (12/2008) that Tallon was a great GM for the Blackhawks, I disagreed with him on that at the time
- Dews got in an argument with me when I said Jack Skille was not going to turn into anything and was a waste of a draft pick (2/2009)
- Dews said (4/2009) that Kane is expandable and will be nothing more than a powerplay specialist. Pretty sure that has been proven wrong...

Look, I could go on and on. It is petty stuff in the end of it. Every scout or analyst is wrong at times. How else would Alexandre Daigle or Patrik Stefan be drafted 1st overall on the biggest stage in the highest level in hockey? I was wrong about Huet, and if I offended anyone by being wrong I am sorry.

Seriously Dews, if you want to be petty, hostile, and act like a teenage girl than you can go ahead and block my posts. It won't offend me one bit.

Now, I'd love to get back to the debate at hand because it is a valid one and one that I currently have at 50/50 for my reasons explained.

How was my opinion wrong AT THAT TIME for Keith or Sharp to be captain? Again we are going back years.

Big Buff was overrated, stop stroking the guys **** because he had a field day with one goalie during the playoffs.

After seeing more of Eager get used in more of a role than an instigator, of course.

Are you dense? Tallon won us the cup that was tallons team. What would you rather have? salary cap issues because you won the cup? Or some smaller scale salary issues when you didnt win the cup. His team, his draft...period, end of story.

The jury is still out on skille, I mean everyone thinks stalberg deserves 10 more years to prove himself.

Patrick Kane is great on the PP. If you actually take off your homered glasses you would see that he is a PP player, sure he is good 5 on 5........he is 10x the player on the PP.

Please bring more things from PSD. This is too much fun.

 

[HawkWriter]

^^^ Dews, I have no need to elaborate or argue anymore with you. I made my point in the last post.

I'd personally like to get back on topic...I came her to talk hockey and Blackhawks, not to throw used tampons at eachother.

 

[tbo41fan]

I saw someone wearing a emery jersey on campus today...:bizarro:

 

[HawkWriter]

I saw someone wearing a emery jersey on campus today...:bizarro:

haha impressive...apparently they are unaware that Emery isn't even technically on the Blackhawks yet?

Whenever I buy a tshirt/jersey I usually go for longevity. I'm sure we will see some Brunette jerseys this winter...but it just doesn't make sense to me. O well, to each their own!

 

[icehogfan08]

I saw someone wearing a emery jersey on campus today...:bizarro:

from what team?

 

[tbo41fan]

haha impressive...apparently they are unaware that Emery isn't even technically on the Blackhawks yet?

Whenever I buy a tshirt/jersey I usually go for longevity. I'm sure we will see some Brunette jerseys this winter...but it just doesn't make sense to me. O well, to each their own!

It wasnt a hawks jersey it was an Ottawa one. lol

I like to buy jerseys that nobody else will (such as Stalberg) because it gets pretty boring with Kane, Toews, Keith jerseys everywhere

 

[tbo41fan]

from what team?

Ottawa

 

[icehogfan08]

Ottawa

nice 1 more Ottawa jersey than a Coyotes jersey