One Reason Why I Don't Want Bears Trading a Second Round Pick For a Trade Deadline Player in 2024

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That heavy spending has to stop soon or it is going to bite the Bears in the ass.

Poles has gotten the Bears to a point where he needs to start counting on the draft to fill spots and to, hopefully, get the next stars. Playing the Rams game, except with 2nd rounders, not 1st rounders, is a good idea when you are holding onto the last vestiges of a Super Bowl run, not when you are at the point when you are going to take your first step in the direction of the Super Bowl.

I agree. The really weird thing is that they don't seem to have many bad contacts that they're waiting to be rid of. It's hard to get used to. I think they have room for maybe 1 more big signing if they want but that's about it. Obviously I prefer hitting on draft picks, but dropping an expensive stud onto the DL would not hurt my feelings.
 

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its far too early to say the bears should or should not trade a pick at the trade deadline...
going into next offseason the question mark positions will be DE, DT, IOL, S
Jenkins may or may not be extended based on his ability to stay healthy
Byard is a short term band aid with no viable replacement

dexter is getting lots of praise so we'll see how improved he is, pickens has been quiet and for him its been more about thinking less and just playing fast according to the DL coach.
 

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Bears will need to fill holes at DT, EDGE, and potentially both OG and it will be time to decide if they are happy with Jones at LT. I'd probably hold onto all the picks and fill as many holes as possible.
 

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Sweat was only dealt cause the Commanders didn't want to put a whole mountain of money into the d-line after signing Payne and Allen to long-term deals. We were able to pull it off because we had the need and the money. That money is gone now unless you're going to run up a giant credit card debt and then take the bath later. Poles needs to be judicious now with guys like Jenkins and DJ Moore coming up on extensions and Brisker/Gordon not terribly far away either.

If we spend our first on a d-end and we hit on him, that's 5 years of cost control for a high-impact player at a high-impact position. This is why draft picks are so valuable. No one you could possibly trade for using anything less than a couple 1st rounders is going to match that production at that price.
Sure it sounds good but that is if things go right. Next years rookie and then he needs time. About 2 or 3 years away from helping this team. And that's if the picks work out. This team is ready to compete now and the next 2 seasons are my concern. If the right guy becomes available we need to jump on it. IMO. PS. I would not sell the farm but this team now needs help now.
 

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BPA is a myth in rounds 1 and 2. Almost ALL teams are taking a need in those rounds.

I’m indifferent to the draft picks if you can get proven talent that will win you games immediately. Look at the Rams.

I believe the expected hit rate on a particle draft pick at a certain round is less than 40%. The 1st rd is 50% at best.
 
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I'm fine with making trades for the right deal on the right player. I do buy into drafting a bunch of young players then trading for a proven vet talent to plug and play right in the thick of all of the younger players.

If there is any facet of player acquisitions I would like to see this franchise free from needing to utilize its free agency.

The Giants got 26 year old Brian Burns for a very similar price tag to what Poles traded for Sweat. I would hope that Poles pull the trigger on a deal for a player of the caliber. If you are hoping to thrive with only one big contract talent on each side of the ball in the trenches, then you are going to be disappointed.

The Bears could reasonably make a trade for a standout DE now and still have picks 1, 2, 3 , 4....in tact to address what should be their biggest needs at 3 TECHNIQUE, SLOT WR and OG, they also have a lot of money coming off the books if they do move on from Allen, Jenkins or cut Davis next year.

I wholeheartedly believe that another standout vet pass rusher makes this roster a hardline contender. Rookie QB or no rookie QB.
 

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BPA is a myth in rounds 1 and 2. Almost ALL teams are taking a need in those rounds.
The top 3 QBs were needs for sure. Harrison Jr was a need for the cards.

You could certainly make the argument that the Chargers needed a wideout more than a tackle. The Falcons certainly needed anything more than a QB. We had bigger needs than WR. There's others too but yea, generally BPA at a top 3 need position.
 

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Besides the obvious need to give a just-brought-in player a new, expensive contract (Sweat in 2023 is a perfect example), the 2025 NFL draft seems to be falling into the Bears lap as for positions of need. Like I said before, they need to save their bullets for the draft.

Taking a too early 2025 NFL mock draft from ESPN (2025 Mock Draft), they projected 13 of the 32 1st round players as either Edge or DT (positions of need).

In 2024, the Bears used a 2nd rounder to get Sweat because Poles probably knew that the defensive line players were lacking (Latu first taken at 15) and no one was at the caliber of Sweat in the draft. They then took Odunze from one of the top position groups in the draft.

Well, two of the Bears biggest needs are Edge and DT, two strengths of the 2025 draft.

With their 1st rounder and 2 2nd rounders, they can target a top of the draft defensive lineman or can use their two 2s to move back into the 1st round and come away with two defensive linemen.

Sometimes, you have to draft positions of need instead of paying premium for them, especially in a draft that should be stacked with players that fit your need.
No argument from me on this.
 

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The top 3 QBs were needs for sure. Harrison Jr was a need for the cards.

You could certainly make the argument that the Chargers needed a wideout more than a tackle. The Falcons certainly needed anything more than a QB. We had bigger needs than WR. There's others too but yea, generally BPA at a top 3 need position.
I would say that Chicago very much had a need at WR. At draft time, KA was a 31 yr old WR on a 1 year contract.

The last WR not named DJ Moore to catch a TD pass was…Chase Claypool. Sad!!

The goal was to surround CW with talent and they needed a long term answer. They saw it and drafted it at #9
 

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Besides the obvious need to give a just-brought-in player a new, expensive contract (Sweat in 2023 is a perfect example), the 2025 NFL draft seems to be falling into the Bears lap as for positions of need. Like I said before, they need to save their bullets for the draft.

Taking a too early 2025 NFL mock draft from ESPN (2025 Mock Draft), they projected 13 of the 32 1st round players as either Edge or DT (positions of need).

In 2024, the Bears used a 2nd rounder to get Sweat because Poles probably knew that the defensive line players were lacking (Latu first taken at 15) and no one was at the caliber of Sweat in the draft. They then took Odunze from one of the top position groups in the draft.

Well, two of the Bears biggest needs are Edge and DT, two strengths of the 2025 draft.

With their 1st rounder and 2 2nd rounders, they can target a top of the draft defensive lineman or can use their two 2s to move back into the 1st round and come away with two defensive linemen.

Sometimes, you have to draft positions of need instead of paying premium for them, especially in a draft that should be stacked with players that fit your need.
Good points and mainly agree with you, I too prefer to keep the picks....but if Poles believes the right player is worth a second and can help, I wouldn't be upset.
 

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If you're on the precipice of winning the Super Bowl, you give up high draft picks to get the last piece you think will push you over the edge. The Bears are not on the verge of winning the Super Bowl and so I prefer to hang on to our draft capital.

Poles has done a good job of stocking the roster with young talent. We still have some holes, most notably along the D line (Edge and DT) and O line (C). We have 8 total picks in 2025, including a first and 2 seconds. We're in a great spot to fill the remaining holes by having a great 2025 draft.

Pace loved giving up huge amounts of draft capital and it killed us over the long haul. Stay the course, continue to build through the draft.
 

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I would say that Chicago very much had a need at WR. At draft time, KA was a 31 yr old WR on a 1 year contract.

The last WR not named DJ Moore to catch a TD pass was…Chase Claypool. Sad!!

The goal was to surround CW with talent and they needed a long term answer. They saw it and drafted it at #9
But they didn’t draft a WR, they drafted a TE @ #9
 

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I keep seeing Bosa trade Ideas on alot of other teams boards. Hes got the foot but seems like a 2nd or third could be the ballpark. Id risk a 2nd and 25- 30 mil over the next two years for a guy like that.
 

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