OT: Rob Manfred - New MLB Commissioner

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@BarryRozner: Rob Manfred is MLB's next commissioner. Meet the new Bud, same as the old Bud.
 

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FWIW, between the top 6 pro leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, MLS, CFL), his appointment keeps it at only one non-Jewish commissioner (Goodell).
 

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FWIW, between the top 6 pro leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, MLS, CFL), his appointment keeps it at only one non-Jewish commissioner (Goodell).

Big deal! Jewish people are like 75% of the population. It's completely fair.
 

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Is he just seen as a Selig lackey? Or is there another reason to dislike this move?
 

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What is the first thing he should change? I'd say hurrying up the pace of play but I don't know how to really do that
 

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What is the first thing he should change? I'd say hurrying up the pace of play but I don't know how to really do that

Fewer warmup pitches, courtesy runner for the catcher, DH for the pitcher, make batters keep 1 foot in the box, give them 1st base on an IBB, bigger strike zone.
 

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Those words don't belong in the same sentence. You rent space with the gullible and stupid.

I don't really have an opinion on Selig... but I'm wondering... what makes him so bad and why do you think Manfred will also be bad?
 

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I don't really have an opinion on Selig... but I'm wondering... what makes him so bad and why do you think Manfred will also be bad?

Many things. But near the top of the list is the fact that he's a jellyfish...totally spineless. And this is in spite of him trying to over compensate for a variety of things.
 

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Many things. But near the top of the list is the fact that he's a jellyfish...totally spineless. And this is in spite of him trying to over compensate for a variety of things.
That's your objective example????
 

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Many things. But near the top of the list is the fact that he's a jellyfish...totally spineless. And this is in spite of him trying to over compensate for a variety of things.

What else do you not like about him? And how is he spineless? What variety of things?
 

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What else do you not like about him? And how is he spineless? What variety of things?

I'm not going to list everything. But one example is the 200X all star game that was in Milwaukee. It ended in a tie. The lasting image of that game is Selig with his "gee I don't know" gesture. There had been a trend building up to that point in terms of how managers were using pitcher sledding up to this. You could totally see this coming yet somehow Selig was caught with his pants down and in his own stadium. Then he overcompensates for this by tying HFA in the WS to who wins an exhibition game. He could use inter league play for this. Interleague play is another stupid, short-sighted idea. But that's another topic.
 

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Those words don't belong in the same sentence. You rent space with the gullible and stupid.

Because I disagree with you? LOL.

Selig has done pretty great things as far as TV deals go, making the owners a lot of money. The Cubs won't get their TV deal for a few more years, but the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, and Dodgers have huge TV deals, which is great for the game. The MLB Network is also a great things for the game.

So what if the All-Star game ended in a tie, by actually ending it, it tells me that he is doing something. If you don't have enough pitchers, you are kind of forced to do that.
 

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Because I disagree with you? LOL.

Selig has done pretty great things as far as TV deals go, making the owners a lot of money. The Cubs won't get their TV deal for a few more years, but the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, and Dodgers have huge TV deals, which is great for the game. The MLB Network is also a great things for the game.

So what if the All-Star game ended in a tie, by actually ending it, it tells me that he is doing something. If you don't have enough pitchers, you are kind of forced to do that.

Selig had very little impact on the tv deals. The economic environment is what impacts this. It has very little to do with Selig in this context. He just happened to be there at the time. I mean, can you say with absolute certainty, he had a maximum impact on this? No, you can't. You're giving him credit for what is a byproduct of timing and without knowing if someone more skilled would have done a lot better.

And the mlb network is a recycled version of what other sports were doing. Hardly innovative or creative. If anything, it's another example of how baseball is reactionary because they're behind the curve.

And regarding your moronic comment about the all star game. Let me explain something to you by pointing out that the notion of extra innings as being "free baseball" is a lie. When a rain shortened game gets called after 6 innings, do addle-minded announcers call it "arrears baseball"? No. It doesn't happen. People pay to see an outcome. People tune in to see an outcome. Sometimes that's less than 9 innings and sometimes it's more. The all star game in no way met baseballs criteria as an outcome. It ended as it did because of Seligs incompetence leading up to the game and also in terms of how he handled it in that moment. The ending violated the pact with it's customers that people are paying to see an outcome. And this was on his own field. So embarrassing. So, so embarrassing.

This stuff about him being tough toward the end of his tenure is a joke. He was merely overcompensating for being criticized for being the spineless jellyfish he is. But that's what he always did. He'd stick his finger in the wind and would go whichever way the wind was blowing. He got rave reviews for being an iconoclast and caving on inter league play...but that was in the short term. All these years later, it's flatlined, people are bored with it and you can't legitimately say baseball has been better off for having it. This is aside from Reinsdorf profiteering one series a year off of Cubs fans. But no one will criticize Selig for it now because many in the media applauded him for it all those years ago and this would be like admitting they were wrong. Too many in the media are too worried about their own dignity to be honest and admit inter league play has been meh at best.

Selig has been getting credit for the aggregation of changes he was complimented for in the short term but when revisit them over he long term you see there was a lot of nothing special...but there was a lot of spinelessness.
 

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