OT: Rob Manfred - New MLB Commissioner

[dabynsky]

Labor peace for two decades is a nice thing that every other pro league in North America can envy. That is the positive legacy of Selig. There are a lot of things that we can point to as negatives, but the fact that no games have been lost in twenty years isn't nothing either.

 

[2323]

Labor peace for two decades is a nice thing that every other pro league in North America can envy. That is the positive legacy of Selig. There are a lot of things that we can point to as negatives, but the fact that no games have been lost in twenty years isn't nothing either.

He was commissioner in 1994, right?

 

[dabynsky]

He was commissioner in 1994, right?

Interim, and so yes you can hang the strike on him if you want. But every one of the other big four has had major labor disputes since and only football and baseball haven't lost regular season games since.

 

[2323]

Interim, and so yes you can hang the strike on him if you want. But every one of the other big four has had major labor disputes since and only football and baseball haven't lost regular season games since.

So the answer is yes. He was the commissioner. He had been the commissioner for two years at that point. "Acting"...sure, whatever. He was acting commissioner until 1998. By pointing this out, you're giving him a lot of wiggle room for excuse making. If you're going to say he was only acting commissioner in 1994, then you can't really give him credit for the extra round of playoffs in 1995, as he was acting commissioner in 1995 also. You can't have it both ways.

 

[dabynsky]

So the answer is yes. He was the commissioner. He had been the commissioner for two years at that point. "Acting"...sure, whatever. He was acting commissioner until 1998. By pointing this out, you're giving him a lot of wiggle room for excuse making. If you're going to say he was only acting commissioner in 1994, then you can't really give him credit for the extra round of playoffs in 1995, as he was acting commissioner in 1995 also. You can't have it both ways.

I am only trying to have the way that stated that Bud Selig has presided over the longest continuous streak of labor peace in the big 4 sport leagues. Whatever points you want to draw beyond that is for you to decide.

 

[TL1961]

I'm not going to list everything. But one example is the 200X all star game that was in Milwaukee. It ended in a tie. The lasting image of that game is Selig with his "gee I don't know" gesture. There had been a trend building up to that point in terms of how managers were using pitcher sledding up to this. You could totally see this coming yet somehow Selig was caught with his pants down and in his own stadium. Then he overcompensates for this by tying HFA in the WS to who wins an exhibition game. He could use inter league play for this. Interleague play is another stupid, short-sighted idea. But that's another topic.

Selig gets all the criticism for the tie, but he is not to blame.

The two managers were given rosters larger than they normally have, and used every player!

The managers were idiots. Not Selig.

 

[2323]

I am only trying to have the way that stated that Bud Selig has presided over the longest continuous streak of labor peace in the big 4 sport leagues. Whatever points you want to draw beyond that is for you to decide.

I reiterate: He was the commissioner during the last work stoppage. That work stoppage caused so much indifference with fans that Selig overlooked the steroid problem when it was able to re-generate interest in baseball that was lost due to the strike. Also, during that span of time, Donald Fehr stopped heading the players union.

 

[2323]

Selig gets all the criticism for the tie, but he is not to blame.

The two managers were given rosters larger than they normally have, and used every player!

The managers were idiots. Not Selig.

Whatever goofball. You'd have a point if it wasn't common for other managers in previous games to burn through pitchers in a similar way leading up to this.