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It’s 2022. It’s always the right off-season to go crazy on offensive players.
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I realize that making a difference for Fields is going to take more than one offseason. It was a crazy offensive market during FA and the Bears had no means of competing in it. Would I have liked a Wr or OL in the draft this year, sure, but I’m not going to freak out that Poles didn’t draft those positions.
If Poles pulls a similar move next offseason where the Bears have more money and draft picks to work with, then sure, I will join the party.
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Need me to read it to you also? George made both the gm and hc hire.
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They did absolutely nothing to help him. All he did was lose weapons. I mean not even sign 1 reasonable player and draft a couple. Nothing was done at all
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I know young QBs need support. But just because Poles didn’t make it happen year one of being a GM, doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Mahomes, Watson, Herbert fell into great situations. The Bills and Cardinals didn’t give Allen and Murray support right away.
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I think Poles did minimum to help him out this year. But no one expected the FA market to be what it was. What was apples supposed to do?
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Does Poles know they “had no means”? He offered $40 million to a DT.
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That’s funny dipshit, cause I can too post a link that says Poles chose him.
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Poles and Eberflus are trying to establish their power by cleaning house and building the team in their vision with their guys. Don’t think they wanted to spend big at WR in FA and they’re already at like the 14th wr in the draft. Doesn’t seem to be any value at the position right now.
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The 3rd round reach-around. It's something.
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I could buy into that for FA. Not in the draft. There was an LT rated higher than the safety. CB then OT I could see that. CB then Safety is the same old BS the Bears have done for way too long. Everything for defense, scraps for offense. It hasn't worked when it was possible and it's not going to work now that the rules have changed.
By the time we get around to hoping to have an offense this new great defense is going to be "too old". It will magically continually have holes that will need to be filled every year that are more important than the constant offensive holes.
And don't get me wrong, this is not about Poles for me, I've seen the same thing repeat for too many GMs to believe that every GM forgets that offense scores points and points win games. I'm sure both Poles and Pace believed their claims that you need an offense, anyone who watches football knows that. What they didn't do was run their plan through the head office before talking about it.
This is a family problem who are stuck in a legacy idea that even Papa Bear wasn't stuck in. What would help that legacy would be winning.
It's not what Poles has done this year. It's what the Bears have done every year.
Even now with this pick it's the same old shit. Have another backup WR3/WR4 for the team because offense isn't worth paying for.
And I'm not saying we needed a WR anywhere in this draft, you could be right on that and this year wasn't the time. However now any oline taken are on the same level as the Bears historical oline crap claimed to be great that we've been fed for many decades.
Meanwhile we get CB and S gods (allegedly). If they can't protect Fields they're useless.
The way this has played out I'd hope next year is for a QB and they think Fields has no hope of being the guy (because they've pretty much assured he has no hope in the time he has left in Chicago).
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Not gonna lose my shit until I see the product on the field
If the offense scheme put in place is better than we'll be better. No way of knowing until you see it.
We should see an improvement in Fields regardless
If the offense scheme put in place is better than we'll be better. No way of knowing until you see it.
We should see an improvement in Fields regardless
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I get where your coming from. And I do agree, I would have gone LT or Wr over a S as well. But what we as fans see as higher rated players doesn’t mean that’s how Poles or Eber sees it. They have a plan in place and all we could really do is hope they can execute it to create a successful team.
I think every Bears fan is fed up with the McCaskeys and their minions. Best thing for this franchise would be for them to sell. I get fans being frustrated, thats ok, but sometimes I think the frustration comes out prematurely. We are a few months into the new front office and if things positively turn around, it’s going to take time.
I can’t argue that Wr pick because that was a question mark pick and agree finding a starting OL at this point in the draft is slim. But the guys that Poles did draft have a chance at being difference makers in the secondary which the Bears desperately need. Don’t know if they will be “gods” but we also don’t know if second round OL/Wrs would have been worthy either. Maybe* there is a chance that Jenkins and Borom turn out to be quality starters.
I think next offseason will give us fans a good idea in the direction Poles is heading. We will be able to see how he performs with better drafts picks and salary cap. I think today was positive start for the defense, but there is a lot of work to do on the offensive side of the ball and I will give Poles a couple seasons to figure it out.
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Didn’t his old boss actually trade a top 5 WR away too? The stupidity on this board ….
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Maybe Fields sucks - ever thought of that? Maybe he fell in the draft for a reason …. His decision making skills and his slow release and decision making were always a legitimate reason to be concerned ….
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Yes, a receiver who demanded a trade. And then they promptly signed two other good receivers and drafted Skyy Moore tonight in the second round.
What I don’t get is, didn’t the Chiefs get the memo that you don’t need to draft a WR early if your quarterback is any good? Man, this Patrick Mahomes character must really suck.
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There was a ton of value. Look at the organizations that actually win games that were still taking those guys in the mid second
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Big difference for many of those QBs is that a support system was already in place. Mahomes took over what was already a good team. Josh Allen didn’t become great overnight either. Burrows is probably the closest thing we can compare Fields too. Bad team that needs a lot to turn it around. Burrows played well with a bad OL. Some guys just have it and others don’t. Everyone thinks Poles has no faith in Fields but in reality it could be that he is counting on Justin to do more with less while Poles builds up the entire team instead of just the WR room.
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But tell me how Poles hates Fields….