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How about some stunts?? The ****** refuses to send pressure
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I think he goes after KC Jones next year and Wash Chase Young
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GM, head coach, quarterback.
The Bears never ever have those guys in lock-step, and it’s shaping up to happen again. You can see it coming a mile away.
-Bears get a new quarterback this coming offseason.
-After Year 3, Poles finally fires Eberflus. (I’m highly skeptical Poles is going to fire Eberflus after Year 2, unfortunately)
-You get a new head coach coming in with a QB he didn’t pick.
-Poles gets fired after Year 4 and continued roster blunders.
-A new GM comes in with a QB and a coach he didn’t pick.
-The new GM fires the coach after a year or two.
-Rinse, repeat, same as it ever was.
The Bears never ever have those guys in lock-step, and it’s shaping up to happen again. You can see it coming a mile away.
-Bears get a new quarterback this coming offseason.
-After Year 3, Poles finally fires Eberflus. (I’m highly skeptical Poles is going to fire Eberflus after Year 2, unfortunately)
-You get a new head coach coming in with a QB he didn’t pick.
-Poles gets fired after Year 4 and continued roster blunders.
-A new GM comes in with a QB and a coach he didn’t pick.
-The new GM fires the coach after a year or two.
-Rinse, repeat, same as it ever was.
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Yesterday was the first time I remember hearing Yannick's name mentioned.
Unfortunately, I don't think we'll have to worry about that comp pick for Ian Cunningham being hired.
Unfortunately, I don't think we'll have to worry about that comp pick for Ian Cunningham being hired.
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Don't forget his free agency track record is worse
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And the Claypool trade
And the Velus pick
And the lack of Edge signings/draft picks
And the trenches(guy literally said he'd build the trenches)
It's a collection of ineptitude from the top and on down to the bottom.
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In Kmet's defense, the dude could go uncovered for 4 quarters and Justin Fields still wouldn't see him wide open.
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and no lessons learned lol
Even crazier fans get fooled by any of the half measures George does
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I just don’t understand the approach Poles is taking of building the trenches last. These results aren’t shocking at all, they’re what you expect of an incompetent franchise that isn’t serious about getting better.
Most bears GMs get a 2nd HC. Poles chose a guy whom I question would be successful at a 3rd rate, middling nobody college program not in a super conference. But hey, I’m sure Kent State or some sun belt college team will be thrilled come January.
Right now I don’t see how Poles should be safe when it’s time for Black Monday.
Most bears GMs get a 2nd HC. Poles chose a guy whom I question would be successful at a 3rd rate, middling nobody college program not in a super conference. But hey, I’m sure Kent State or some sun belt college team will be thrilled come January.
Right now I don’t see how Poles should be safe when it’s time for Black Monday.
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Poles never hired flus that was all George. But based on the roster he’s put together there is no way I would let him pick next hc or qb. Needs to be full house cleaning like @Toast88 is saying
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Poles has a lot of things turning against him quickly. I was never a fan of the Coach Eberflus pick as he felt a little too much like a Matt Nagy type but defensive minded. Coach's media interviews now sound so much like Nagy once he knew his days were numbered but instead of repeating "needing to find the whys" like Nagy he is now repeating "tuning out the outside noise" and "needing to look at the tape" talk tracks. I was done with Eberflus last year, but watching his defense fall flat and him now play call (how long are you going to stay in zone coverage without any QB pressure applied?) shows me he really is out of his league and is not even good at the defensive side of the ball.
Poles only positives in my mind was that he was willing to rip the bandaid off quickly and get through what we all knew would be a terrible season last year by gutting the terrible contracts and trimming the roster to make room for a clean rebuild. The problem is that what he has built up since then has confirmed his inability to scout talent. Although I would not have done it, he spent a lot of draft capital and salary cap on defense (and I get the argument from others that with a defensive head coach you start building with what they know first). The results we are seeing from those acquisitions are absolutely pathetic. If Poles and Flus both had inputs into these decisions, it confirms to me they both need to go.
On the offensive side of the ball, the one goal Poles had was to ensure that a full and complete evaluation was done on Fields by the end of this year. While he did get him some receiving weapons and a respectable RB locker room, the lack of a true revamping of the offensive line has left Fields under duress and likely shell shocked. I think the evaluation of Fields will be over anyways, but the reality is I don't think we can even understand someone like Bagent's potential behind this line (and I'm hoping we do get to see him play at some point). The interior Oline with the annual injury to Jenkins, and Nate Davis apparently being paid to play whenever he feels like it has seen immediate pressure up the middle and A-gaps so far and so any QB has to be ready for immediate defenders in their face. It would've been tough enough for a QB to account for a rookie RT that is going to have growing pains and watching for those mistakes but to now have your mediocre LT gone with no decent backup, the QB position is going to be tough to evaluate.
Poles seat went from slightly warm at the start of the season to being red hot that he may be the next Emery-type GM we see let go 2 years in. His only saving grace might be the draft capital he has acquired, but if we're going off his drafting abilities to date, those picks might be better used by a different GM.
Poles only positives in my mind was that he was willing to rip the bandaid off quickly and get through what we all knew would be a terrible season last year by gutting the terrible contracts and trimming the roster to make room for a clean rebuild. The problem is that what he has built up since then has confirmed his inability to scout talent. Although I would not have done it, he spent a lot of draft capital and salary cap on defense (and I get the argument from others that with a defensive head coach you start building with what they know first). The results we are seeing from those acquisitions are absolutely pathetic. If Poles and Flus both had inputs into these decisions, it confirms to me they both need to go.
On the offensive side of the ball, the one goal Poles had was to ensure that a full and complete evaluation was done on Fields by the end of this year. While he did get him some receiving weapons and a respectable RB locker room, the lack of a true revamping of the offensive line has left Fields under duress and likely shell shocked. I think the evaluation of Fields will be over anyways, but the reality is I don't think we can even understand someone like Bagent's potential behind this line (and I'm hoping we do get to see him play at some point). The interior Oline with the annual injury to Jenkins, and Nate Davis apparently being paid to play whenever he feels like it has seen immediate pressure up the middle and A-gaps so far and so any QB has to be ready for immediate defenders in their face. It would've been tough enough for a QB to account for a rookie RT that is going to have growing pains and watching for those mistakes but to now have your mediocre LT gone with no decent backup, the QB position is going to be tough to evaluate.
Poles seat went from slightly warm at the start of the season to being red hot that he may be the next Emery-type GM we see let go 2 years in. His only saving grace might be the draft capital he has acquired, but if we're going off his drafting abilities to date, those picks might be better used by a different GM.
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I dont think Poles is calling defensive plays. I already said if Flus doesnt start blitzing to create pressure and we continue to play like shit on D he should be fired.
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Poles had this draft by the balls and came out with very little talent. The team is worse now than it was at the end of last season which is hard to imagine.
I don't trust Poles to make the selections in the upcoming draft but its very unlikely to let him go at the end of year 2. It should be an easy first selection just grab Williams or Penix.
I don't trust Poles to make the selections in the upcoming draft but its very unlikely to let him go at the end of year 2. It should be an easy first selection just grab Williams or Penix.
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Almost every one of those guys were free agents
To me, it seems like Poles isn’t remotely sold on either this staff, Justin, or both. Look at that last…how many are tied to this franchise long term? None of them…they’re all easy outs with no long term commitment. I’m not a genius by any stretch, but it almost seems like he’s doing everything he can to not go “all in” or even “in” for that matter lol
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Virtually all of these guys are stop gaps with the exceptiom of Moore, Claypool and Edmunds. And at this point hard to judge Moore or Claypool given how shit Fields is.
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Glad to see some of you comin' around. Why all the trust in Poles?
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Something I hate he does, his transparency about deals. He made a habit of telling the media everything about trades, signings, etc. There is no gamesmanship. Meanwhile, the coach is the most tight lipped coach ever thinking it gives them a strategic edge.
I’d argue being tight lipped as a GM is much more beneficial to gaining an edge. He looked dumb the way he admitted to receiving calls after drafting Velus, opposing gm’s saying “you took our guy!” He claims. “Which feels good, makes you feel you’re on the right track.”
He called up the Panthers everyday saying he was stressed about the Texans doing their part in his double trade back. At a certain point the Panthers said “lets get it done” and offered (only) an additional ‘25 2nd rounder to get the deal done. The deal overall is a good one, so I won’t drag him, but there was clearly more juice to squeeze according to reports and he tapped out early because of nerves.
Then there’s trading back with Eagles to #10. Directly after everyone questioned “did the Bears get too little to trade back.” In a previous draft a team traded 24 to 25 for a 4th, this is 9 to 10. In video footage, Ian Cunningham answers the phone, they ask what are you offering, Eagles say a ‘24 4th rounder. There was a smile by Ian and they agree. There was no counter offer, no Bears saying “we’re going to need a 2nd rounder” and settling on a 3rd (fair bargain)
These are the margins that eek out winning capital, winning situations for franchises. And of course you have to draft well. Poles hasn’t shown to be good at striking deals, at nerves, at drafting. He has overpaid for the FA’s he’s gotten at non premium positions. He ignores obvious positions of need every fan can see; OT in free agency, center, wide receiver in ‘22 (pivoting for Claypool trade, after skipping Claypool’s replacement Pickens). He claims he signed Ngakoue because “the Bears fans are so passionate, they reminded me at every turn I needed to sign a DE.”
Uhhh - isn’t that the GM’s job! Maybe he is being a bit facetious, but if its that obvious to fans you’re anemic D-line might be f’n glaring. Forget Cole Kmet, let your balls hang and sign Hargrave (suck up any post-30 dropoff). Glaring problems need bold solutions.
Maybe trade up for a Keeanu Benton, not Stevenson, I don’t know. Assess your deficiencies and get desparate, Not gloat about how much you “love this guy” Stevenson “he’s big, he’s physical. Plays with an edggeeee@!#%”. How does that move the needle?! How is that investing in team improvement, and not just stroking your ego and incredible scouting to find Tyrique.
I think his best skill is not putting the Bears in dire straights, his worst skill is not putting the Bears in any kind of strongly advantageous position either. And given enough time, the trend would say he’ll eventually give bigger money to non essential pieces like Cole Kmet. Reward our legacy guys (what has 3-14 earned?), while letting impact guy Roquan go. Not moving the needle there any
I’d argue being tight lipped as a GM is much more beneficial to gaining an edge. He looked dumb the way he admitted to receiving calls after drafting Velus, opposing gm’s saying “you took our guy!” He claims. “Which feels good, makes you feel you’re on the right track.”
He called up the Panthers everyday saying he was stressed about the Texans doing their part in his double trade back. At a certain point the Panthers said “lets get it done” and offered (only) an additional ‘25 2nd rounder to get the deal done. The deal overall is a good one, so I won’t drag him, but there was clearly more juice to squeeze according to reports and he tapped out early because of nerves.
Then there’s trading back with Eagles to #10. Directly after everyone questioned “did the Bears get too little to trade back.” In a previous draft a team traded 24 to 25 for a 4th, this is 9 to 10. In video footage, Ian Cunningham answers the phone, they ask what are you offering, Eagles say a ‘24 4th rounder. There was a smile by Ian and they agree. There was no counter offer, no Bears saying “we’re going to need a 2nd rounder” and settling on a 3rd (fair bargain)
These are the margins that eek out winning capital, winning situations for franchises. And of course you have to draft well. Poles hasn’t shown to be good at striking deals, at nerves, at drafting. He has overpaid for the FA’s he’s gotten at non premium positions. He ignores obvious positions of need every fan can see; OT in free agency, center, wide receiver in ‘22 (pivoting for Claypool trade, after skipping Claypool’s replacement Pickens). He claims he signed Ngakoue because “the Bears fans are so passionate, they reminded me at every turn I needed to sign a DE.”
Uhhh - isn’t that the GM’s job! Maybe he is being a bit facetious, but if its that obvious to fans you’re anemic D-line might be f’n glaring. Forget Cole Kmet, let your balls hang and sign Hargrave (suck up any post-30 dropoff). Glaring problems need bold solutions.
Maybe trade up for a Keeanu Benton, not Stevenson, I don’t know. Assess your deficiencies and get desparate, Not gloat about how much you “love this guy” Stevenson “he’s big, he’s physical. Plays with an edggeeee@!#%”. How does that move the needle?! How is that investing in team improvement, and not just stroking your ego and incredible scouting to find Tyrique.
I think his best skill is not putting the Bears in dire straights, his worst skill is not putting the Bears in any kind of strongly advantageous position either. And given enough time, the trend would say he’ll eventually give bigger money to non essential pieces like Cole Kmet. Reward our legacy guys (what has 3-14 earned?), while letting impact guy Roquan go. Not moving the needle there any
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Darnell Wrong got destroyed again yesterday. He's got a long way to go to even be serviceable. On a normal offensive line he would be targeted and abused, but since everyone else on the Bears front is just as bad as he is he only receives passing attention.
Jaquan Brisker did not look good yesterday at all. And mark this as three straight weeks of him taunting opponents while the Bears were getting destroyed. Getting sick of that act.
Roschon Johnson plays hard, but honestly I feel like people are only hyping him because of the lack anything from anyone else. He has not been really that outstanding.
I liked the Noah Sewell pick, but what is going on where he can't crack the lineup in a big way? He seems like a misfit, the league might have been out on him for a good reason. This time last year he was getting mocked in the top ten.
Really the only decent player Ryan Poles has drafted is Trenton Gill. That's it. Two years of drafts and you've got a punter.
Jaquan Brisker did not look good yesterday at all. And mark this as three straight weeks of him taunting opponents while the Bears were getting destroyed. Getting sick of that act.
Roschon Johnson plays hard, but honestly I feel like people are only hyping him because of the lack anything from anyone else. He has not been really that outstanding.
I liked the Noah Sewell pick, but what is going on where he can't crack the lineup in a big way? He seems like a misfit, the league might have been out on him for a good reason. This time last year he was getting mocked in the top ten.
Really the only decent player Ryan Poles has drafted is Trenton Gill. That's it. Two years of drafts and you've got a punter.
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I'm just glad that the LB he overpaid that's supposed to be so good against the pass only gave up 11 targets with 10 of those being receptions for 88 yards and a tuddy yesterday.
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