Police Who Shot Homeless Man 11 Times Over Stolen Coffee Will Not Be Charged

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Police Who Shot Homeless Man 11 Times Over Stolen Coffee Will Not Be Charged

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As the media is busy covering the latest rumors over which celebrity will be wearing the trendiest designer clothing to the Oscars, one particular story has gone unnoticed — the declaration by the federal government that the Michigan police officers who shot at a homeless man 47 times (hitting him 11 times) will not face any federal charges. Not even a slap on the wrist.

In what amounts to an entirely outlandish event that is both disturbing and highly revealing when it comes to the state of our society, Michigan police officers ended up firing their weapons 47 times at 49-year-old Milton Hall following a report that Hall had stolen a cup of coffee from a convenience store. A crime that undoubtedly set back the convenience store by around 5 cents in costs for the Chinese made cup and maybe another couple of cents for the coffee itself.

On July 1, 2012, officers surrounded the homeless man who was reportedly dealing with a history of mental illness and carrying a pocket knife. Captured on video, you can clearly see the entire horde of officers unloading their weapons in unison against the 49-year-old mentally ill homeless man:

But according to federal authorities from the FBI and the U.S. Department of Justice, the officers did not act unlawfully.

“After a thorough investigation, federal authorities have determined that this tragic event does not present sufficient evidence of willful misconduct to lead to a federal criminal prosecution of the police officers involved,” a joint statement from the agencies read.

The same sentiments were also backed up by state prosecutors, who found that the officers also acted within the law in shooting Hall 47 times. As a result, Hall’s mother has launched a wrongful death suit against the city, which ultimately found that the first officer on the scene was already preparing to shoot Hall once she arrived on the scene. According to the suit, the first officer stated that she was “going to have to shoot this guy” unless other officers could arrive quickly to the scene.

Additional officers, of course, did arrive quickly to the scene and instead of helping to diffuse the situation assisted in shooting off 47 rounds at a close ranged target with extreme inaccuracy.

The reality of this story is that this injustice is yet another symptom of a police force that is trained to consider citizens as the enemy. The reason we continue to read such horror stories about the execution of citizens for holding Wii remotes and other harmless objects that don’t even look like firearms is due to the fact that the police are now led to believe in their training programs that average citizens are in fact the largest threat — that a terrorist is hiding behind every suburban corner. When officers see citizens (or even children) that we can perceive as harmless holding some type of non-threatening object in their hands, they default to their fear-based training and act without thinking.

As the police force of the United States is further calibrated to military-style training with the American people as the enemy, we will only see a sharp increase in horror stories such as 49-year-old Milton Hall’s.

[video=youtube;M4QWg0t0aBQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=M4QWg0t0aBQ[/video]
 

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Aaaaand this is why I don't trust cops.

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Wow.

This is sad.
 

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They didn't have to do that shit, I could'a stopped that guy with a castnet
 

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In the police's defense, this man was on a caffeine high, making him virtually unstoppable to anything but bullets.
 

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Police Who Shot Homeless Man 11 Times Over Stolen Coffee Will Not Be Charged

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As the media is busy covering the latest rumors over which celebrity will be wearing the trendiest designer clothing to the Oscars, one particular story has gone unnoticed — the declaration by the federal government that the Michigan police officers who shot at a homeless man 47 times (hitting him 11 times) will not face any federal charges. Not even a slap on the wrist.

In what amounts to an entirely outlandish event that is both disturbing and highly revealing when it comes to the state of our society, Michigan police officers ended up firing their weapons 47 times at 49-year-old Milton Hall following a report that Hall had stolen a cup of coffee from a convenience store. A crime that undoubtedly set back the convenience store by around 5 cents in costs for the Chinese made cup and maybe another couple of cents for the coffee itself.

On July 1, 2012, officers surrounded the homeless man who was reportedly dealing with a history of mental illness and carrying a pocket knife. Captured on video, you can clearly see the entire horde of officers unloading their weapons in unison against the 49-year-old mentally ill homeless man:

But according to federal authorities from the FBI and the U.S. Department of Justice, the officers did not act unlawfully.

“After a thorough investigation, federal authorities have determined that this tragic event does not present sufficient evidence of willful misconduct to lead to a federal criminal prosecution of the police officers involved,” a joint statement from the agencies read.

The same sentiments were also backed up by state prosecutors, who found that the officers also acted within the law in shooting Hall 47 times. As a result, Hall’s mother has launched a wrongful death suit against the city, which ultimately found that the first officer on the scene was already preparing to shoot Hall once she arrived on the scene. According to the suit, the first officer stated that she was “going to have to shoot this guy” unless other officers could arrive quickly to the scene.

Additional officers, of course, did arrive quickly to the scene and instead of helping to diffuse the situation assisted in shooting off 47 rounds at a close ranged target with extreme inaccuracy.

The reality of this story is that this injustice is yet another symptom of a police force that is trained to consider citizens as the enemy. The reason we continue to read such horror stories about the execution of citizens for holding Wii remotes and other harmless objects that don’t even look like firearms is due to the fact that the police are now led to believe in their training programs that average citizens are in fact the largest threat — that a terrorist is hiding behind every suburban corner. When officers see citizens (or even children) that we can perceive as harmless holding some type of non-threatening object in their hands, they default to their fear-based training and act without thinking.

As the police force of the United States is further calibrated to military-style training with the American people as the enemy, we will only see a sharp increase in horror stories such as 49-year-old Milton Hall’s.

[video=youtube;M4QWg0t0aBQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=M4QWg0t0aBQ[/video]
the real crime here is we are paying for all these bullets who the fugs training these azz clowns im just a casual shooter and I guarantee I can hit a homeless guy at 15-20 yards 3 outta five shots
 

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As hard as this article tries to make the guy sound like an innocent homeless guy with a medical issue who was just drinking 5 cent coffee and enjoying the sunshine with a tiny little knife in pocket, the fact is he was threatening police with a knife and refusing to put it down for a long time. Am I really supposed to feel bad for this guy?

The cops were obviously in the wrong to an extent here. I think I read 3 were disciplined internally (whatever that means, I doubt the discipline was much) and the number of shots was absurd.

The guy was telling the police to "let the motherfucking dog go" but I'm glad they didn't because the dog getting stabbed would've been a more tragic ending.
 

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11 times only?..Pocket knives can be dangerous!
 

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As hard as this article tries to make the guy sound like an innocent homeless guy with a medical issue who was just drinking 5 cent coffee and enjoying the sunshine with a tiny little knife in pocket, the fact is he was threatening police with a knife and refusing to put it down for a long time. Am I really supposed to feel bad for this guy?

The cops were obviously in the wrong to an extent here. I think I read 3 were disciplined internally (whatever that means, I doubt the discipline was much) and the number of shots was absurd.

The guy was telling the police to "let the motherfucking dog go" but I'm glad they didn't because the dog getting stabbed would've been a more tragic ending.

So cops dont learn any other way to disarm someone with a pocket knife except to line up and shoot them like a firing range? He wasn't threatening them. It'd be different if he came at them. The way to deal with the mentally challenged isn't to put them down. Cops like these shouldn't be on the job.

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As many of you know, I am very pro cop. Every one of those cops should be charged and stand trial.

These officers and ones like them (or worse than them) are the ones that do irreparable damage to the public's perception of law enforcement.
 

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Im about as pro cop as one can get, but that looks really bad. There has to be a reason they got away with it..Im wondering why though
 

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eh, just don't put yourself in the position of telling cops to get away with a knife in your hand.

The cops were wrong as I said before. If they would've gotten charged, fine. If they lose their job, fine. But they didn't and I just can't find the emotion to get angry over someone putting themselves in that position.
 

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eh, just don't put yourself in the position of telling cops to get away with a knife in your hand.

The cops were wrong as I said before. If they would've gotten charged, fine. If they lose their job, fine. But they didn't and I just can't find the emotion to get angry over someone putting themselves in that position.

What don't you get? The guy was mentally-ill, he needs help, not to be taken out back and shot like a rabid dog. The cops, with all their "training," could've very easily taken him down without lethal force.
 

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I get that a guy had a knife and was uncooperative with police. Don't do that. Police don't have time to look at medical records and be psychiatrists when a man is wielding a knife 15 feet from them.
 

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I get that a guy had a knife and was uncooperative with police. Don't do that. Police don't have time to look at medical records and be psychiatrists when a man is wielding a knife.

This series of posts is some of the most ridiculous shit I've ever read. This was murder, there was no self defense at all.
 

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Again.... not one of them had a taser or some pepper spray?

Or could one of them not have just put one in his leg?

This wasn't a split second situation.... they lined him up and unloaded on him.

Honestly whats even worse.... 36 shots they fired didn't hit the guy.... they let 36 bullets loose out in to their community.... FFS do they even do target practice?
 

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Again.... not one of them had a taser or some pepper spray?

Or could one of them not have just put one in his leg?

This wasn't a split second situation.... they lined him up and unloaded on him.

Honestly whats even worse.... 36 shots they fired didn't hit the guy.... they let 36 bullets loose out in to their community.... FFS do they even do target practice?
budget cuts.....they should just copy my local cops routine they don't even need firearms they stick to gang beating drunks. while I don't condone this they learn how to disarm and beat people down without wasting thousands of dollars a year on ammo. and it cuts down on the drunks runnin around unchecked
 

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Again.... not one of them had a taser or some pepper spray?

Or could one of them not have just put one in his leg?

This wasn't a split second situation.... they lined him up and unloaded on him.

Honestly whats even worse.... 36 shots they fired didn't hit the guy.... they let 36 bullets loose out in to their community.... FFS do they even do target practice?

Shawon's problem is he's looking at this as an isolated incident, as opposed to realizing that officers are becoming more and more willing to use lethal/excessive force in non-lethal/non-excessive situations.
 

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