Potential 2024 NFL Head Coach Candidates - Running IGT

[JoJoBoxer]

Honestly who knows?

pretty much EVERYONE (on these boards anyway) thought MIA hiring Mike McDaniel was a joke bc they missed out on the big names and had to settle for what's left in the coaching carousel. McDaniel is also kind of a goober. He was also only the OC for the 49ers for year prior to MIA. Turns out he's pretty awesome as a coach and now he's got a great season DC on his team which is hard to do for young first time coaches.

I had heard some serious positive vibes about him when he was available, mostly from national media because of his soundbites potentially leading to fun media - HC interactions.

I head nothing positive about Flus. He was THE major snooze fest when he was hired.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

At this point I would take Dan Quinn or Jason Garrett to come in and stabilize the patient while hopefully attracting quality assistants and coordinators. Its not ideal, but within the realm of what is realistic its probably the best you can hope for. John Fox brought in Adam Gase and Vic Fangio.

That reminds me of the Meatloaf hit song, "Cause one outta three ain't bad".

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

In the tradition of Love (defense) to Trestman (offense) to Fox (defense) to Nagy (offense) to Flusie (defense) it appears we are on schedule for an offensive coach. Because that's the way things should really go.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

At this point I would take Dan Quinn or Jason Garrett to come in and stabilize the patient while hopefully attracting quality assistants and coordinators. Its not ideal, but within the realm of what is realistic its probably the best you can hope for. John Fox brought in Adam Gase and Vic Fangio.

I'd also trust somebody like Quinn or Garrett with their staffs to come in and really identify what parts of this roster are salvageable. Its unlikey that there is zero talent anywhere on this roster, but good luck figuring out who can actually make it in the league amidst all this nonsense.

Jim Harbaugh simply won't happen, if for no other reason than he is what must happen. The Bears will purposefully avoid him because that means admitting the fans have been right for the last ten years that we've been clamoring for him.

I might be reading this wrong, and apologies if I am. Are you talking about Quinn or Garrett for next season, or to come in now?

 

[JoJoBoxer]

At this point I think if you don't accept, at least on an interim basis, being cylically competitive as an on-average .500 team you are risking falling into a hole where the Bears fail to sniff the playoffs for twenty years. Right now there is just a shred of enough success in the not-too-distant past to get somebody in here who can create a new floor of about six or seven wins. Another year or two like this? You will only get the worst of the worst candidates desperately taking any job they can. At that point you are rolling the dice until you get snake eyes, and that can take decades.

Its not worth the high draft picks to risk that. Bears picked first overall last year, look what good that did them. I understand where you're coming from here but you are on the verge of falling off a cliff if you're the Bears. Call these guys, humble yourself before them and let them get you back to respectability and maybe in a couple years playoff contention.

The way the Bears are looking right now, they are among the short list of teams worthy of the #1 pick. Caleb, if he chooses to come out for the Bears, is the one chip who will get you a top HC "genius" to come to Chicago. Of course, that does not mean anything if that "genius" is another Nagy.

Going with another "John Fox" is not going to do anything for the team. At best, the Bears will lose out on the chance of being terrible enough for a top of the draft player in future drafts. He will get you to bottom 12 which is NFL purgatory with no chance of taking the elevator up, just down.

My solution is to make Fangio HC ... with the prerequisite that he buys a large piece of luggage, stuffs the tiny man with the glasses on the Miami sideline next to him into said luggage and only lets him out on Sundays.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Mike Norvell from Florida State is a coach I have watched have good success as a head coach at Memphis and now Florida State. Don't think he has NFL experience, however he has shown he can put together quality staffs and put players in the NFL Draft. He's in his 4th season at FSU, and has really helped bring that program back to the upper echelon's of CF.

I am weary of those college HCs coming to the NFL. Most fail badly because what they have learned as HCs doesn't translate well to the NFL because NFL players cannot be treated like college players are and because their biggest skill, getting players to come to their college team, is not really useful in the NFL.

There have been some success stories though.

 

[Montucky]

I might be reading this wrong, and apologies if I am. Are you talking about Quinn or Garrett for next season, or to come in now?

Next season. This year is what it is, I would let these coaches go down with the ship for all eighteen weeks.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

As a Bear fan how many more times do I need to hear "it can't get worse?"

Take your expected lifespan. Subtract by current age. Divide by 3.

 

[Montucky]

The way the Bears are looking right now, they are among the short list of teams worthy of the #1 pick. Caleb, if he chooses to come out for the Bears, is the one chip who will get you a top HC "genius" to come to Chicago. Of course, that does not mean anything if that "genius" is another Nagy.

Going with another "John Fox" is not going to do anything for the team. At best, the Bears will lose out on the chance of being terrible enough for a top of the draft player in future drafts. He will get you to bottom 12 which is NFL purgatory with no chance of taking the elevator up, just down.

If your team can't scout or develop players it doesn't matter where you're picking. First, tenth, twentieth...the team with proven people who can identify good players and get the most out of good players is going to fare better no matter way they pick. Say what you will about Jason Garrett or Dan Quinn (or if you dare yourself to believe Mike Tomlin will leave Pittsburgh) they have that proven track record.

Caleb Williams isn't coming. Its not happening. His family is already saying they feel no pressure to enter the pros this year, and there is precedent of this in the NFL's past. Nobody is coming here to coach Caleb Williams, Bears fans have to let go of this delusion now.

 

[bearsfan1977]

If your team can't scout or develop players it doesn't matter where you're picking. First, tenth, twentieth...the team with proven people who can identify good players and get the most out of good players is going to fare better no matter way they pick. Say what you will about Jason Garrett or Dan Quinn (or if you dare yourself to believe Mike Tomlin will leave Pittsburgh) they have that proven track record.

Caleb Williams isn't coming. Its not happening. His family is already saying they feel no pressure to enter the pros this year, and there is precedent of this in the NFL's past. Nobody is coming here to coach Caleb Williams, Bears fans have to let go of this delusion now.

I think if either Sarkisian or Lincoln Riley were here, it would increase the odds of him being ok with it.

 

[Montucky]

I think if either Sarkisian or Lincoln Riley were here, it would increase the odds of him being ok with it.

And what are the odds they come to Chicago? Approximately zero.

 

[dreadpirateroberts]

My list is Lincoln Riley, Ben Johnson, Brian Johnson, Kellen Moore, Dan Quinn, and Eric Bieniemy

 

[bearsfan1977]

And what are the odds they come to Chicago? Approximately zero.

And how do you know this?

 

[Montucky]

And how do you know this?

This is what I'm talking about when I say delusions. The Bears are simply not an attractice destination. Lincoln Riley can leave the NCAA for the pros for any job he wants. He is simply not going to pick a franchise like the Bears. He has no reason to.

 

[WestsideResider]

After the Nagy and Eberflus eras, I’d put their network over whatever success they’re having at the moment. Who would Ben Johnson bring in as his DC?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Kellen Moore is the most realistic option, and that's assuming Brandon Staley doesn't do something to get himself fired.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Next season. This year is what it is, I would let these coaches go down with the ship for all eighteen weeks.

I understand your point, but there's no reason to treat this season as a sunk cost. You make a good point about a guy like Garrett coming in to see what works and what doesn't, but I'd try to pry him away from TV and do it this year. Assuming Kevin Warren has the power, I'm shipping Eberflus' ass out of here ASAP.

 

[Montucky]

I understand your point, but there's no reason to treat this season as a sunk cost. You make a good point about a guy like Garrett coming in to see what works and what doesn't, but I'd try to pry him away from TV and do it this year. Assuming Kevin Warren has the power, I'm shipping Eberflus' ass out of here ASAP.

I see your point entirely, but I cant recall the last time something like this happened midseason. Ideally yeah, you get somebody in here who can salvage the season at least from a player development perspective. But logistically that might be difficult, and these guys might be wary of sullying their record picking up where Matt Eberflus left off.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

If your team can't scout or develop players it doesn't matter where you're picking. First, tenth, twentieth...the team with proven people who can identify good players and get the most out of good players is going to fare better no matter way they pick. Say what you will about Jason Garrett or Dan Quinn (or if you dare yourself to believe Mike Tomlin will leave Pittsburgh) they have that proven track record.

Caleb Williams isn't coming. Its not happening. His family is already saying they feel no pressure to enter the pros this year, and there is precedent of this in the NFL's past. Nobody is coming here to coach Caleb Williams, Bears fans have to let go of this delusion now.

No, you don't give away hope of Caleb until he officially returns to college.

I can give you over 50 millions reasons on why he will come out this year.

He would be a FOOL, not a fool, to return to college. If he returns to college, the best thing that can happen to him is for him to wait one more year for that huge contract that he can get after his rookie deal is done, which by that time, would be closer to 70 million for that one year than the 50 million I mentioned before.

Do you think that he is going to get that type of money for his one year of his NIL deal? Because that is with what his family is threatening the NFL by saying that he is thinking about returning to college.

The worst case scenario is a major injury that ruins his chances in the NFL. Even a bad year in 2024 would cause his stock to drop, making him lose much more money than he would have made with the 2024 NIL deal.


By the way ...

Do you know who cannot scout players?

Jason Garrett and Dan Quinn. There is also no certainty that they can develop players either.

 

[bearsfan1977]

This is what I'm talking about when I say delusions. The Bears are simply not an attractice destination. Lincoln Riley can leave the NCAA for the pros for any job he wants. He is simply not going to pick a franchise like the Bears. He has no reason to.

You’re just wrong. You are overreaching to the current dumpster fire to such an extreme that you’re the one with delusions.

Chicago is a major market with a fan base hungry for a great coach and qb. They will have top picks in a good qb class and a shitload of cash.

They may not want to leave because they have a cushy gig on a college campus that pays very well. But to suggest they wouldn’t want to be a HC in the pros because the Bears have had a string of bad seasons is fucking crazy.