Quade: Cubs Can Win Division...This Year

[dabynsky]

My point was that no team with a record that the Cubs have at the end of July has come back and made the playoffs. I still think that Quade has to say the things he does because the team does have to show up for the next couple of months even if it is meaningless for them.

 

[daddies3angels]

the miracle mets? overtook the cubs

were they 12 out close to AUG..sorry wasnt around in 69 lol

 

[daddies3angels]

My point was that no team with a record that the Cubs have at the end of July has come back and made the playoffs. I still think that Quade has to say the things he does because the team does have to show up for the next couple of months even if it is meaningless for them.

i agree. Im still praying Quade is FIRED end of year

 

[marky mark]

the Mets were in third place, 9 1⁄2 games back, in mid-August. They won 39 of their last 50 games to surge past the Cubs, finishing 100-62, eight games ahead of the Cubs. That 17 1⁄2-game differential is one of the largest turnarounds in MLB history


1969

 

[daddies3angels]

the Mets were in third place, 9 1⁄2 games back, in mid-August. They won 39 of their last 50 games to surge past the Cubs, finishing 100-62, eight games ahead of the Cubs. That 17 1⁄2-game differential is one of the largest turnarounds in MLB history


1969

they were still above .500 when they started that streak. Very impressive though

 

[Uman85]

1914-Boston Braves overcame a 15-game lead on July 6 to win the pennant
1951 NY Giants- Down 13.5 on August 11, made up that deficit in 45 games.
1978 Yankees- 14 down on July 20 and won division
1995 Mariners- Down 13 on August 3 and won division over the Angels

 

[dabynsky]

i agree. Im still praying Quade is FIRED end of year

I don't think it really matters that much. What Jim Hendry (or hopefully someone better) decides to do in the offseason will have a far greater effect on next season than who is the manager. Apart from Quade leaving in pitchers too long and bringing Garza back after a rain delay, I don't think any of us decisions really did more to affect the season than perhaps add a couple of losses to the record.

 

[marky mark]

.500 or not does not matter, a sub .500 team can still catch fire

 

[brett05]

Quade is horrible with the media. He should have deflected it like a real coach would

 

[daddies3angels]

I don't think it really matters that much. What Jim Hendry (or hopefully someone better) decides to do in the offseason will have a far greater effect on next season than who is the manager. Apart from Quade leaving in pitchers too long and bringing Garza back after a rain delay, I don't think any of us decisions really did more to affect the season than perhaps add a couple of losses to the record.

i lost all confidence in Quade when he let Pujols hit back to back game winning HR

 

[daddies3angels]

Quade is horrible with the media. He should have deflected it like a real coach would

yea he lets media get to him to much.

 

[dabynsky]

Most people give the number of games a manager can swing the season anywhere from a couple to 5 is the most I have ever heard. What Quade does, outside of the usage of pitchers, is largely irrelevant compared to the lack of talent on this team.

 

[Uman85]

I don't think it really matters that much. What Jim Hendry (or hopefully someone better) decides to do in the offseason will have a far greater effect on next season than who is the manager. Apart from Quade leaving in pitchers too long and bringing Garza back after a rain delay, I don't think any of us decisions really did more to affect the season than perhaps add a couple of losses to the record.

It would matter if the Cubs were in contention. Those couple of losses that might've been added by his in-game managing could mean the difference between winning the division and sitting home in October.

 

[dabynsky]

It would matter if the Cubs were in contention. Those couple of losses that might've been added by his in-game managing could mean the difference between winning the division and sitting home in October.

I agree that it would matter if we were talking about a team in contention but who apart from Mike Quade thinks that describes the situation now.

 

[brett05]

I refused to recognize him as a real manager when he had no courage to tell his own starters in spring training whether they would have a spot or not (silva )

 

[brett05]

Most people give the number of games a manager can swing the season anywhere from a couple to 5 is the most I have ever heard. What Quade does, outside of the usage of pitchers, is largely irrelevant compared to the lack of talent on this team.

For 90+% of managers this is spot on

 

[Rick]

Quade: Cubs Can Win Division...This Year

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[beardown28]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha(gasp)hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.. We aren't winning shit this year.

 

[Captain Obvious]

I agree that it would matter if we were talking about a team in contention but who apart from Mike Quade thinks that describes the situation now.

My biggest problem with the Q has been his line ups. So I am going to take a look at this.

I'm taking the player in each batting spot 1-8 who has the most PAs and putting their OBP and SLG into this Lineup Analysis

Then I'll just use the average for the 9th spot. This will tell us how many runs our line up has been worth, roughly.

*Note that Soriano has hit 6th and 7th more than any player, so I am going to use Byrd's stats of hitting 3rd(largest sample size) and put them in the 6th spot and put Soriano in the 7th spot, using his 6th spot numbers(again, larger sample size).

The Lineup of

Dome
Barney
Castro
Ramirez
Pena
Byrd
Soriano
Soto
Pitcher

gets us 4.145 R/G. That *102 = 423 runs. We've scored 411. That's pretty close.

Now, let's take a look using these same players, only changing the numbers to their season numbers, as opposed to by place hitting in the line up, and take a look and compare this to the best possible line up, given these 8 guys.

The best 4 line ups are as follows:

Runs per Game
4.639 Fukudome Pena Soto Ramirez Byrd Soriano Castro Pitcher Barney
4.639 Fukudome Pena Castro Ramirez Byrd Soriano Soto Pitcher Barney 
4.639 Fukudome Byrd Soto Ramirez Pena Soriano Castro Pitcher Barney 
4.639 Fukudome Byrd Castro Ramirez Pena Soriano Soto Pitcher Barney

4.639*102= 473 Runs. That's a difference of 62 runs. That's gotta be quite a few wins there. I would have to say that that is more than 5 wins.