R.Kelly charged with aggravated criminal sexual abuse

[Gustavus Adolphus]

The worst kept "secret" in the history of show business, it has been common knowledge forever. I assume he was paying people off Michael Jackson style to avoid this for so long.

That reminds me, the parents that pimped their children out to Micheal Jackson, are worse than he was. A special place in hell for those greedy *******.

Fucking DeRogitis has been on this for 18 years and finally people are starting to listen to the guy.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I'm still not 100% convinced that Michael Jackson was a pedophile. Maybe he was, I could believe that too. But it seems like there is a decent argument that he was a shattered human being, and generally weird and misinterpreted.

I agree with this 100% Joe Jackson did a real number on this kid, and I've always thought that in his mind he was desperately trying to get back to his childhood. I think he just snapped.

 

[number51]

I'm still not 100% convinced that Michael Jackson was a pedophile. Maybe he was, I could believe that too. But it seems like there is a decent argument that he was a shattered human being, and generally weird and misinterpreted.

I agree with this 100% Joe Jackson did a real number on this kid, and I've always thought that in his mind he was desperately trying to get back to his childhood. I think he just snapped.

His dad sure messed him up. Michael got 13 year old children drunk and molested them, but he had a rough childhood too so...

Back to Kelly, I wonder what happened to him when he was a kid to make him such a freak, the poor guy.

 

[MDB111™]

His dad sure messed him up. Michael got 13 year old children drunk and molested them, but he had a rough childhood too so...

Back to Kelly, I wonder what happened to him when he was a kid to make him such a freak, the poor guy.

He got molested.
He started out liking young chicks when he was 20. but at 40??? he kept liking young chicks.
the entire industry was just like "whatever" as he married Aaliyah.
For christ sakes, Sony JUST dropped him.

but yeah, it happened to him too so he is just repeating the cycle. but the problem is as he aged he became evil with it. there are videos of him laughing about it, paying off the girls famiy he peed on. there are videos of him peeing on underage girls. The poor boy who got molested is now an evil predator himself and far worse, no doubt spawning more future predators. dude needs to be locked up.

this is much different then a news guy telling a chick to blow him or telling a chick she has a nice ass.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

His dad sure messed him up. Michael got 13 year old children drunk and molested them, but he had a rough childhood too so...

Back to Kelly, I wonder what happened to him when he was a kid to make him such a freak, the poor guy.

C'mon man, you know what both of us were saying with what we posted.

 

[nvanprooyen]

His dad sure messed him up. Michael got 13 year old children drunk and molested them, but he had a rough childhood too so...

Back to Kelly, I wonder what happened to him when he was a kid to make him such a freak, the poor guy.

Ehh.

I'm not saying that. If he did it, a rough childhood is no excuse for his actions. I'm saying there is a decent argument that it never happened at all and kids were coached into these accusations.

Consider Corey Feldman who is basically the poster child as an advocate against underage child abuse in Hollywood and had a close relationship with him:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/corey-feldman-elijah-wood-hollywood-897403

For anyone who has not read your book, please restate what you experienced with Michael Jackson?
I would prefer they read my book. But he was a friend and our relationship did not end well. We had a falling out, and that was due to the fact that there was definitely a dark side to him. But that dark side in no way connected itself to pedophilia by my estimation.
He was never inappropriate with you and you don't think he was inappropriate with other boys?
Not to my knowledge.

I'm always open to new information. But I never saw anything definitive that pointed to Michael Jackson being a kid ******. Weird? Absolutely. But most of the accusations seemed to come from opportunistic people without any substance to back it up. I've got no horse in this race though. If I'm wrong, please point me to some evidence of why I am.

 

[nvanprooyen]

His dad sure messed him up. Michael got 13 year old children drunk and molested them, but he had a rough childhood too so...

Back to Kelly, I wonder what happened to him when he was a kid to make him such a freak, the poor guy.

C'mon man. You're usually much better than this.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

Ehh.

I'm not saying that. If he did it, a rough childhood is no excuse for his actions. I'm saying there is a decent argument that it never happened at all and kids were coached into these accusations.

Consider Corey Feldman who is basically the poster child as an advocate against underage child abuse in Hollywood and had a close relationship with him:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/corey-feldman-elijah-wood-hollywood-897403



I'm always open to new information. But I never saw anything definitive that pointed to Michael Jackson being a kid ******. Weird? Absolutely. But most of the accusations seemed to come from opportunistic people without any substance to back it up. I've got no horse in this race though. If I'm wrong, please point me to some evidence of why I am.

I may be naive to think that MJ wasn't molesting those kids... as weird of a story as it was, I'm not sure.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Here's a recent recruiting video from Rob:

 

[run and shoot]

R Kelly has gotten away with this shit for years. It's amazing it has taken this long.

If he's found guilty then so be it. Point was is those other guys seemed to have slipped into the shadows

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/kevin-spacey-arraignment-january-2019/index.html

Again, here is an example of a white guy who got caught up in the #MeToo movement and went before a judge. It's pretty clear what run and shit is hinting around at.

 

[run and shoot]

Originally Posted by number51 View Post
His dad sure messed him up. Michael got 13 year old children drunk and molested them, but he had a rough childhood too so...

Back to Kelly, I wonder what happened to him when he was a kid to make him such a freak, the poor guy.

Ehh.

I'm not saying that. If he did it, a rough childhood is no excuse for his actions. I'm saying there is a decent argument that it never happened at all and kids were coached into these accusations.

Consider Corey Feldman who is basically the poster child as an advocate against underage child abuse in Hollywood and had a close relationship with him:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/corey-feldman-elijah-wood-hollywood-897403



I'm always open to new information. But I never saw anything definitive that pointed to Michael Jackson being a kid ******. Weird? Absolutely. But most of the accusations seemed to come from opportunistic people without any substance to back it up. I've got no horse in this race though. If I'm wrong, please point me to some evidence of why I am.

Good points. The Corey Feldman situation opens a whole other can of worms with regards to certain Hollywood producers & directors being pedophiles.
Also it's to bad what happen to Feldman's friend Corey Haim ( I'm sure his drug addition and death were the result trying to cope with prior child molestation)

But I never saw anything definitive that pointed to Michael Jackson being a kid ******. .

Agreed

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

From a NYE concert in Ethiopia:

[video=youtube;cnAri-0nSjo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnAri-0nSjo[/video]

 

[run and shoot]

I may be naive to think that MJ wasn't molesting those kids... as weird of a story as it was, I'm not sure.

A quick internet search can uncover several ppl. ....admitting to lies on the witness stand about Mike "molested them". Bottom line it was about cashing in $$$$.

Article:Jackson Case: Mom of accuser admits lying under oath
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...6/index.html&usg=AOvVaw2IB8r4F7-luUm5359WWrWj


Article: Brother Of Jackson Accuser Admits Lying

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...admits-lying&usg=AOvVaw2D1qfn4lBbSKcb9Do7eBBi
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Michael Jackson didn't do it, says former accuser


Now maybe for the remorse of his death Chandler decides to tell us the truth. " I never meant to lie and destroy Michael Jackson but my father made me to tell only lies. Now i can't tell Michael how much i'm sorry and if he will forgive me ". Jordan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, "If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever..."
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Jordan Chandler Admits he lied about Michael Jackson

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=M-Zbr3nYCIU&usg=AOvVaw3b26l99IPoJy_nk83sAR5d

 

[Warrior Spirit]

the inmates wont see nothin wrong with a lil bump and grind.

he might get peed on too.

[video=youtube;7Xrw0gbnNuU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xrw0gbnNuU[/video]

 

[number51]

C'mon man, you know what both of us were saying with what we posted.

C'mon man. You're usually much better than this.

I got you guys, I know what you're saying. I think Michael did some messed up things with children, but for me the worst part is the parents of these kids getting a pay day out of it.

 

[zack54attack]

Female R.Kelly fans are trying to post his bail..

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/female...rtedly-trying-to-pay-his-bond-news.72872.html


:nope:

 

[run and shoot]

I got you guys, I know what you're saying. I think Michael did some messed up things with children, but for me the worst part is the parents of these kids getting a pay day out of it.

The "messed up thing" is certain parents getting their children to lie on MJ for $$$ . While later admitting that nothing "sexual" ever happened and they did liie.

 

[Omeletpants]

Does R Kelly like donuts?