Ramirez Gets SN SS Honor

[DewsSox79]

Ramirez nabs AL shortstop honor - Chicago White Sox Blog - ESPN Chicago

 

[Got teeth? Keith doesn't.]

Good job, well deserved.

 

[HeavyD]

He aint even the best SS in chi-town

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

Good for Alexei!

one of my favorite non-Cubs.

 

[Got teeth? Keith doesn't.]

He aint even the best SS in chi-town

LOL kay bro. Go ahead and think that.

 

[Lefty]

Guess it was a down year for AL shortstops.

 

[DewsSox79]

Guess it was a down year for AL shortstops.

first thing that i thought.

 

[Got teeth? Keith doesn't.]

agreed, I thought for sure he wasn't deserving until I looked at the candidates.

 

[nickofypres]

He aint even the best SS in chi-town

 

[Got teeth? Keith doesn't.]

Alright, I'm bored in computer tech so let's rundown the numbers for Castro and Ramirez...

BA
Ramirez: .282
Castro: .300

OBP
Ramirez: .313
Castro: .347

OPS
Ramirez: .744
Castro: .755

HR
Ramirez: 18
Castro: 3

RBI
Ramirez: 70
Castro: 41

R
Ramirez: 83
Castro: 53

BB%
Ramirez: 4.3
Castro: 5.7

K%
Ramirez: 14
Castro: 15.3

BB/K
Ramirez: .33
Castro: .41

ISO
Ramirez: .149
Castro: .108

wOBA
Ramirez: .322
Castro: .325

wRC+
Ramirez: 97
Castro: 98

UZR/150
Ramirez: 10.1
Castro: -3

WAR
Ramirez: 3.8
Castro: 2.0

I'd say offensively, it's pretty even with a slight edge to Ramirez just because of his 30 more runs scored, 29 more RBI, and 15 more HR, while Castro was better disciplined. Defensively, I can say without a doubt that Ramirez is the far superior defensive SS. Castro just looks too raw out there, Ramirez has made huge strides defensively since his rookie year. He did rate out as arguably the best defensive SS this past year for a reason (among the 9 AL SS's with at least 900 innings in the field, Alexei was 1st in DRS, 2nd in double play runs, 2nd in range runs, 1st in UZR, and 1st in UZR/150). Not just going off of those numbers, but from watching Alexei the whole year and Castro about a few times a week, it was pretty clear to me who was better defensively.

 

[DewsSox79]

Alright, I'm bored in computer tech so let's rundown the numbers for Castro and Ramirez...

BA
Ramirez: .282
Castro: .300

OBP
Ramirez: .313
Castro: .347

OPS
Ramirez: .744
Castro: .755

HR
Ramirez: 18
Castro: 3

RBI
Ramirez: 70
Castro: 41

R
Ramirez: 83
Castro: 53

BB%
Ramirez: 4.3
Castro: 5.7

K%
Ramirez: 14
Castro: 15.3

BB/K
Ramirez: .33
Castro: .41

ISO
Ramirez: .149
Castro: .108

wOBA
Ramirez: .322
Castro: .325

wRC+
Ramirez: 97
Castro: 98

UZR/150
Ramirez: 10.1
Castro: -3

WAR
Ramirez: 3.8
Castro: 2.0

I'd say offensively, it's pretty even with a slight edge to Ramirez just because of his 30 more runs scored, 29 more RBI, and 15 more HR, while Castro was better disciplined. Defensively, I can say without a doubt that Ramirez is the far superior defensive SS. Castro just looks too raw out there, Ramirez has made huge strides defensively since his rookie year. He did rate out as arguably the best defensive SS this past year for a reason (among the 9 AL SS's with at least 900 innings in the field, Alexei was 1st in DRS, 2nd in double play runs, 2nd in range runs, 1st in UZR, and 1st in UZR/150). Not just going off of those numbers, but from watching Alexei the whole year and Castro about a few times a week, it was pretty clear to me who was better defensively.

good post!

 

[poodski]

Alright, I'm bored in computer tech so let's rundown the numbers for Castro and Ramirez...

BA
Ramirez: .282
Castro: .300

OBP
Ramirez: .313
Castro: .347

OPS
Ramirez: .744
Castro: .755

HR
Ramirez: 18
Castro: 3

RBI
Ramirez: 70
Castro: 41

R
Ramirez: 83
Castro: 53

BB%
Ramirez: 4.3
Castro: 5.7

K%
Ramirez: 14
Castro: 15.3

BB/K
Ramirez: .33
Castro: .41

ISO
Ramirez: .149
Castro: .108

wOBA
Ramirez: .322
Castro: .325

wRC+
Ramirez: 97
Castro: 98

UZR/150
Ramirez: 10.1
Castro: -3

WAR
Ramirez: 3.8
Castro: 2.0

I'd say offensively, it's pretty even with a slight edge to Ramirez just because of his 30 more runs scored, 29 more RBI, and 15 more HR, while Castro was better disciplined. Defensively, I can say without a doubt that Ramirez is the far superior defensive SS. Castro just looks too raw out there, Ramirez has made huge strides defensively since his rookie year. He did rate out as arguably the best defensive SS this past year for a reason (among the 9 AL SS's with at least 900 innings in the field, Alexei was 1st in DRS, 2nd in double play runs, 2nd in range runs, 1st in UZR, and 1st in UZR/150). Not just going off of those numbers, but from watching Alexei the whole year and Castro about a few times a week, it was pretty clear to me who was better defensively.

Castro was the better offensive player, that is showed by the wOBA and the wRC+. Using counting stats is pretty dumb as runs and RBI have nothing to do with the hitter, and Castro played less games.

Ramirez is the better defensive player right now, but lets not forget that he is only 20 years old. This is the first year Alexei had a positive TZR, and he is two years removed from being much worse than Castro according to UZR.

One year stats of defense aren't really all that useful. I think its pretty close between the two with Castro being better offensively and Ramirez better defensively. Going forward I would take Castro though without a doubt.