Real questions about Bears ownership

[abegibronlives]

I’m still confused on how Jones is a great owner but terrible GM. Would you either be good or bad at both?

He's a good owner for two reasons:

1)He actually cares whether the team is good or not.
2) He's willing to spend big to git'r dun.

He was not very good at personnel decisions (Quincy Carter, anyone?), ergo, not a great GM.

 

[GoBears]

Bears' success if measured solely by revenue generated for the owners. Nothing else matters. You'd think that might translate into wins but it doesn't because, like the Cubs, fans remain fans and didn't insist on championship caliber play for over 100 years. That's about how long it will take for us to make another Superbowl appearance.

 

[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

Fuck large marge because Virginia must die
Marry Betty White great sense of humor. She won't be boring
Kill Virginia because it must be done.

Large Marge will give you those EYES that make you feel like you are destroying that pussy

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

Jerry has business vision that few people possess. But he should stick to that. He is a world-class business visionary and a below-average GM.

I agree the guy is a business man and knows how to make money, but regarding the NFL, he is a below average president too. He puts himself in a great position to make money. He doesn’t put his team in the best position to win.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

The mccaskey's run the team like a small Mom and Pop shop from the 1950s when your word and a handshake which is good as gold.

Which is why they absolutely get eviscerated by other teams when it comes to supposed friendships, trades, etc.

The other 31 teams know the mccaskeys are the chumps at the table and take advantage of that mercilessly, some while making the mccaskey's believe they are close friends.

Individually, they're good people and mean well, but they are way out of their depth.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

He's a good owner for two reasons:

1)He actually cares whether the team is good or not.
2) He's willing to spend big to git'r dun.

He was not very good at personnel decisions (Quincy Carter, anyone?), ergo, not a great GM.

1. They have been nothing but average the past 10 years and really haven’t been relevant since the early to mid 90s. If he cares about being good he should remove himself as GM.
2. Spending big $$ does not lead to success.

 

[Luke]

A 100 year old lady owns the team - does that sound like championships?

Also, Jerry has the frickin Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders!
We have Nagy in his pom pom outfit for the occasional club dub celebration.

 

[JurisFrog]

The mccaskey's run the team like a small Mom and Pop shop from the 1950s when your word and a handshake which is good as gold.

Which is why they absolutely get eviscerated by other teams when it comes to supposed friendships, trades, etc.

The other 31 teams know the mccaskeys are the chumps at the table and take advantage of that mercilessly, some while making the mccaskey's believe they are close friends.

Individually, they're good people and mean well, but they are way out of their depth.

Now that is some interesting intel. Sad, really, about the state of the world, but certainly not an owner to be ashamed of. Lots of owners are shamefully horrid people. I think this makes me want to root for the Bears even more.

 

[HearshotKDS]

THey are the opposite end of the "Incompetent Owner" spectrum as Jones. Don't meddle, GMs are given an enormous amount of freedom and very little KPIs/oversight. They aren't really connected to the football world to the point where they hire random ass consultants to help them pick the next GM when the old one eventually fails so hard that ownerships hand is forced to replace them. They have a reputation for being cheap, but I dont think thats well deserved (anymore), they are just morons who don't know the difference between throwing money at a bag of magic beans vs. the real thing.

TLDR: Ownership isn't football savy enough to interfere with the team, so they don't - thats good. But they also aren't football savy enough to identify when their GMs moves/plans are failing or maybe even hold them to one in the first place - thats been bad. If they luck into a HoF GM who hits on enough decisions to win a title ownership wont get in the way, that very well could have been the story of the Pace Bears if he had picked a different QB at #3.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

THey are the opposite end of the "Incompetent Owner" spectrum as Jones. Don't meddle, GMs are given an enormous amount of freedom and very little KPIs/oversight. They aren't really connected to the football world to the point where they hire random ass consultants to help them pick the next GM when the old one eventually fails so hard that ownerships hand is forced to replace them. They have a reputation for being cheap, but I dont think thats well deserved (anymore), they are just morons who don't know the difference between throwing money at a bag of magic beans vs. the real thing.

TLDR: Ownership isn't football savy enough to interfere with the team, so they don't - thats good. But they also aren't football savy enough to identify when their GMs moves/plans are failing or maybe even hold them to one in the first place - thats been bad. If they luck into a HoF GM who hits on enough decisions to win a title ownership wont get in the way, that very well could have been the story of the Pace Bears if he had picked a different QB at #3.

You had a good post, but your TLDR version is literally just as long as your initial post lol.

 

[HearshotKDS]

You had a good post, but your TLDR version is literally just as long as your initial post lol.

I got carried away.

 

[sevvy]

If someone came to me and said, "I'm getting into the NFL, and I think the Chicago Bears are going to be my favorite team." My response would be, "Don't."

It starts with incompetent, and clueless ownership. And the shit just rolls downhill. The Bears aren't the worst franchise in the NFL, but they are the very definition of mediocre and disappointing. One would be much better off to research franchises, and pick one that is competent top to bottom.

That's my team. Fuck em, and fuck me.

 

[PickSix]

JurisFrog = the Red Rocket himself

 

[abegibronlives]

1. They have been nothing but average the past 10 years and really haven’t been relevant since the early to mid 90s. If he cares about being good he should remove himself as GM.
2. Spending big $$ does not lead to success.

The results have not been great, although in the 90's...three championships in a four-year span. That's the kind of thing that can happen when ownership is engaged.

Not gonna happen here under the current regime, ever.

 

[JurisFrog]

JurisFrog = the Red Rocket himself

Ha ha, nope, not the Red Rifle. Or connected with him (except I met him once and shook his hand and said hello).

With an ownership group like this, it makes the GM position all the more important. It's all starting to make sense now.....