Remydat Full Rebuild Mock Draft

[PrideisBears]

Stoped at trade Monty

 

[remydat]

Stoped at trade Monty

I would trade Monty before I trade Mack or Quinn to be quite honest. He simply should not be resigned and 1 year of Monty really means nothing to the future of this team. I really hope don't want Poles signing him long term as RBs are simply not worth it unless they are elite. Monty is not elite.

 

[wazzupi]

Feel free to swap out with your left tackle of choice then but the reason you can take a chance on Armstead is because you have Jenkins, Borom, Simmons and Jones that can all play LT or RT. So if he can give you 10-14 games of elite LT play, I will take it. Of course, if I don't tear it down and don't trade Mack, Quinn and cut Whitehair then I would not take a chance on Armstead so he only works if you are stripping it down IMO and freeing up all that extra cash and getting those extra draft picks.

I mean I get it, I just personally would swap a few draft guys I like more and not pick up armstead. It’s not bad but I like to keep my own mocks simple I personally would probably pick up Jordan Davis especially after that combine I don’t care about what people say about his snap counts the defense shouldn’t be needing to be on the field that long with him in the middle. The guy just absolutely man handles OLinemen everyone he goes up against thinks they’re holding him but he is always reading the backfield and playing his assignments. Wyatt is my 2nd choice.

 

[NorcalBear]

Ugh. Losing Monty. I get it.. paying RBs is not good for business. But I feel like we still havent gotten to enjoy what he is capable of. Without Special person play calling and OLine issues. Wish we had more time with him, love his toughness.

 

[remydat]

I mean I get it, I just personally would swap a few draft guys I like more and not pick up armstead. It’s not bad but I like to keep my own mocks simple I personally would probably pick up Jordan Davis especially after that combine I don’t care about what people say about his snap counts the defense shouldn’t be needing to be on the field that long with him in the middle. The guy just absolutely man handles OLinemen everyone he goes up against thinks they’re holding him but he is always reading the backfield and playing his assignments. Wyatt is my 2nd choice.

I debated Davis but felt Wyatt was a better fit as a 3-Tech. That and he is more of the high motor guy that Eberflus likes.

 

[remydat]

Ugh. Losing Monty. I get it.. paying RBs is not good for business. But I feel like we still havent gotten to enjoy what he is capable of. Without Special person play calling and OLine issues. Wish we had more time with him, love his toughness.

How did you like that beatdown the Tar Heels gave Coach K in his final regular season home game?

 

[dabears70]

1. I get trading Mack or Quinn for draft picks but not both.
2. I get trading Montgomery but not this season. Fix the offensive line and then move him.
3. Christian Kirk would be an underwhelming signing after clearing all that cap space.
4. Tight ends take too long to develop. Pass on Chigoziem Okonkwo. I’ll keep preaching it into existence, the Bears should sign Gerald Everett.
5. Amare Barno won’t last until pick #232
6. Love the Josh Williams pick. I view him as a FS though.
7. Its a weak defensive line draft and you have the Bears using a lot of draft capital on a weak class.

I think Kirk would be a great signing but think he'll get more than $9 mil per. He really upped his game this year playing mostly out of the slot.

 

[greg23]

I would trade Monty before I trade Mack or Quinn to be quite honest. He simply should not be resigned and 1 year of Monty really means nothing to the future of this team. I really hope don't want Poles signing him long term as RBs are simply not worth it unless they are elite. Monty is not elite.

Best/most realistic thing in this thread

 

[gobullschi]

I think Kirk would be a great signing but think he'll get more than $9 mil per. He really upped his game this year playing mostly out of the slot.

FWIW I don’t dislike Kirk as a player, I just don’t think he is worth the $ for what he brings.

 

[Omeletpants]

This plan would make the Bears the worst team in thew NFL

 

[gobullschi]

1. Again if I am doing a full rebuild then neither is part of the long term future and I am not trying to compete in 2022 so not point in keeping either.
2. Monty is a free agent next season so this is the last year he can be traded.
3. That cap space was cleared mainly for Armstead. Kirk is a reasonable signing so I am don't have to reach for a WR but the long term future at WR is getting both Watson and Pierce to go along with Mooney.
4. Kmet is the starting TE. All we need Oko for is to stretch the field and provide YAC in two tight end sets. I also think we should give Horstead a chance in that role. Also we don't need anything from Oko next year because again not trying to compete.
5. Maybe not, he was listed as undrafted prior to the combine but may now get drafted earlier due to his performance but he is definitely a guy that looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane right now.
6. Sure you can try him at CB and move him to S if it doesn't work out.
7. At the time I picked those guys were BPA.

1. Makes sense. Don’t think it’s likely but I understand your rational.
2. Ok didn’t realize his contract was coming due already. I definitely don’t want to pay him an extension (don’t think RBs are ever worth it) Is his return much different then what the Bears would get as a compensatory pick?
3. That’s fair. Personally, don’t think Kirk will be worth the contract he gets. Chark would be a better target.
4. Wholeheartedly disagree. Kmet was green when drafted and I don’t think he’s ready for that type of role. He’s a #2 TE that might develop into a #1 a few years from now. Everett can make plays in the passsing game and in the slot right away.
5. Possible.
6. 100%. I like him in the slot against bigger receivers and FS.

 

[remydat]

1. Makes sense. Don’t think it’s likely but I understand your rational.
2. Ok didn’t realize his contract was coming due already. I definitely don’t want to pay him an extension (don’t think RBs are ever worth it) Is his return much different then what the Bears would get as a compensatory pick?
3. That’s fair. Personally, don’t think Kirk will be worth the contract he gets. Chark would be a better target.
4. Wholeheartedly disagree. Kmet was green when drafted and I don’t think he’s ready for that type of role. He’s a #2 TE that might develop into a #1 a few years from now. Everett can make plays in the passsing game and in the slot right away.
5. Possible.
6. 100%. I like him in the slot against bigger receivers and FS.

Comp picks can't get any higher than 3rd round so I am trading Monty for a 3rd rounder in 2022 rather than wait for a potential 3rd rounder in 2024 since Monty would not sign a new deal until FA 2023 and thus would not factor into the comp pick formula until the following year's draft in 2024.

Chark has never played a full season and only played 4 games last year. I am already taking an injury risk on with Armstead so would prefer not to double down with Chark.

Kmet is going into his 3rd year so he needs to sink or swim. Further not sure I get the love affair for Everett who has never had more than 500 receiving yards. Kmet had 612 yards last year compared to 478 for Everett. Kmett caught 12 more balls so if you give Everett 12 more receptions at his 10 YPR then he would have had 598 yards which is still less than Kmet. So I would much rather take a chance on a rookie that gets paid less with 4.4, 4.5 speed with the hope he becomes a major factor in 2023.

 

[gobullschi]

Comp picks can't get any higher than 3rd round so I am trading Monty for a 3rd rounder in 2022 rather than wait for a potential 3rd rounder in 2024 since Monty would not sign a new deal until FA 2023 and thus would not factor into the comp pick formula until the following year's draft in 2024.

Chark has never played a full season and only played 4 games last year. I am already taking an injury risk on with Armstead so would prefer not to double down with Chark.

Kmet is going into his 3rd year so he needs to sink or swim. Further not sure I get the love affair for Everett who has never had more than 500 receiving yards. Kmet had 612 yards last year compared to 478 for Everett. Kmett caught 12 more balls so if you give Everett 12 more receptions at his 10 YPR then he would have had 598 yards which is still less than Kmet. So I would much rather take a chance on a rookie that gets paid less with 4.4, 4.5 speed with the hope he becomes a major factor in 2023.

I should have been more clear, I don’t think Montgomery nets a third round pick. What trade are you basing that kind of value on? I could see a conditional 4th at best. (Jay Ajayi - 2017)

Thats a fair point on Chark - but his upside is worth the risk IMO. Amari Cooper makes way more sense and gives Fields a proven commodity. Otherwise, save the $ for the 2023 FA WR class.

Tight ends rarely produce early in their careers, so it’s wishful thinking to expect anything - especially out of a TE in the fourth round. Kmet will sink if the expectation is that he will become a #1 TE. He’s not that type of receiver. Everett is cheap and is at the point in his career where he can take off. 4.6 speed with a nearly 40” vertical.

Carroll said. ” … This is I think the fanciest, sweetest-looking receiver/tight end mix that we’ve had. He’s like a wide receiver, he’s got terrific after-the-catch run ability, really aggressive and he’s a good blocker, too
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/06/23/pete-carroll-believes-gerald-everett-will-be-a-breakout-player-in-seahawks-offense/

 

[Bearly]

Perhaps read what I said.

I am not saying the Bears should do a full rebuild or that they 100% could make the trades below for the picks I suggest but just thought I would see how this team could be constructed if I did strip it all down.

The premise is they wish to strip it all down and rebuild. Has nothing to do with whether I think it is realistic or not, it was simply exploring the scenario of a complete rebuild.

I guess they expected an 'I failed' mock. I have yet to see one of those. It's obviously a convo starter exercise.

I personally think this sort of extreme is not needed to transition more quickly and that the team can move forward faster with a better foundation to build from. I don't think any of those trades go down outside of maybe Goldman and he really dropped his value the last 2 years. I also think we keep Whitehair but that's boring, LOL.

 

[legendxofxlink]

I understand the post. But full rebuilds don’t work… if Poles doesn’t hit on every single draft pick and nail FA right off the bat he’ll be gone in a couple years.

 

[dentfan]

I’ll play your scenario out. I’m game. I’m saying if you’re saying fuck D, blow this shit up, then go all in. You’re doing it wrong. So, I’m going to redo your draft.


DRAFT
#19: - Chris Olave — we get the best WR for Fields. We will win way more games with him than the 3-tech.Devonte Wyatt, IDL, Georgia

#35: Boye Mafe - With Mack and Quinn both traded and Mafe one of the BPAs on the board, the Bears take a young passer rusher with an explosive first step and 4.53 speed to begin the process of replacing Mack and Quinn. Good fit for the HITS philosophy as his scouting report notes he plays with impressive.

Boye Mafe, EDGE, Minnesota​

RS Senior, 6'4", 265 lbs
thedraftnetwork.com (SAME)

TRADE #39 TO SAINTS FOR #49, #100 AND #234
#49: Christian Watson - Big WR with excellent speed and explosiveness who can also be a plus blocker in the run game. The physicality he plays with again would be a great fit for what Poles and Eberflus are looking for.

Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State​

RS Senior, 6'5", 208e lbs
thedraftnetwork.com (Fuck yeah, Olave and Watson. Fields gets ready blow shit up with Money and these two.)

#71: Dylan Parham - Given the desire for more nimble OL, Parham fits the bill as a slightly undersized but athletic IOL that can get to the 2nd level. Doesn’t have to start right away given what we did in FA but nice guy to develop longer term.

Dylan Parham, IOL, Memphis (Same)​

RS Senior, 6'3", 285e lbs
thedraftnetwork.com

#100 Leo Chenal — let the destruction one D begin. He also can play a lethal 3-tech on top of being a run stopping blitzed.

You can keep the rest of your draft the same.

Now, you know we are going to need a FB, so why not sign a vet? That guy from the Ravens looks very good, if you don’t like the guy from the Chiefs.

 

[msadows]

Ugh. Losing Monty. I get it.. paying RBs is not good for business. But I feel like we still havent gotten to enjoy what he is capable of. Without Special person play calling and OLine issues. Wish we had more time with him, love his toughness.

Remy has been wanting to trade monty for years. No idea why.

This is the guy who said monty sucks and jordan howard is better, FYI. Plenty of people had page long debates with him about how much monty doesnt suck.

Remy tries hard but he's a giant meatball. I appreciate the effort but his takes are just as stupid as ever. This is the guy who was pounding the table hard AF to draft a WR in the 2nd round in 2020 and we ended up with one of the best in the draft in the 5th. Meanwhile, the guys he wanted are all bums.

This is a fun read while you drink your morning coffee, but its about as realistic as Tom Brady unretiring and coming to the bears

 

[PrideisBears]

Jordan Howard wasn’t better than Monty @remydat

 

[msadows]

That being said, trading monty is the most realistic of those trades only because we lucked into another good back w/ Herbert. Just not sure how much a RB looking to get paid is gonna get you in todays nfl, so it might not even be worth it.

Wasn't monty a lot better at pass blocking too? From what I remember?

 

[msadows]

Jordan Howard wasn’t better than Monty @remydat

But jordan howard got less yardage before initial contact in 2020 and somehow have more YPC!

^^^^ This shit filled up like 500 of his posts for sure.