Report: Hawks-Red Wings to be split up

[Popinski Soda]

I want Detroit gone to be honest.

Winning > Rivalries

Personally, I like the competition that Detroit brings to the table, it keeps us on our toes. All being the best team in a division full of poop does is foster a false sense of eliteness, which can be dangerous come Playoff time. That's just my $.02 though.


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[tbo41fan]

develop more rivalries with geographical rivals

STL
MINN
etc.

 

[Capt. Serious]

If it means we have to play Detroit less, I'm all for it. They have won something ridiculous, like 10 out of the last 11, division titles.

Because they didn't have idiots running their team like we did at the time.

I like the rivalry because of guys like Datsyuk & Lidstrom.

Two of them guys will be HOFer's.

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

I want Detroit gone to be honest.

Winning > Rivalries

If we can avoid the good guys, we have a better shot at winning. This is a loser mentality.

Repeatedly playing a good team like Detroit not only makes for good entertaining games to watch (we the fans win here), but it forces the Hawks to up their game and it lets them know where they stand against elite teams in the league.

Dewsox likes to repeatedly point out that the Hawks fell ass backwards into the playoffs this past season and technically he's right. But go back and swap Chicago and Vancouver (putting Chicago in the weak Northwest division). You can't deny that the Hawks would have had an easier road getting into the playoffs than they did playing in the tougher Central. That turns them from a team that underachieved in the season and then maybe overachieved in the playoffs (odd to think that, but still...) into a team that had an acceptable season followed by a playoffs that was more disappointing than it actually was. Or hey, maybe they end up drawing an easier team like LA in the playoffs and advancing into the 2nd round. Then what do we think of this past season? It would still be the same team we're talking about, right? The team that we all feel had a shitty year and wasn't that great...

I know that paragraph is one big 'what if', but that's what we're dealing with here (what if detroit goes away). To be the best, you have to beat the best and quite frankly, Detroit isn't even the best. The Hawks are good enough to hang with any team in the league... there's no reason to hope for an easier road for them.

 

[DewsSox79]

If we can avoid the good guys, we have a better shot at winning. This is a loser mentality.

Repeatedly playing a good team like Detroit not only makes for good entertaining games to watch (we the fans win here), but it forces the Hawks to up their game and it lets them know where they stand against elite teams in the league.

Dewsox likes to repeatedly point out that the Hawks fell ass backwards into the playoffs this past season and technically he's right. But go back and swap Chicago and Vancouver (putting Chicago in the weak Northwest division). You can't deny that the Hawks would have had an easier road getting into the playoffs than they did playing in the tougher Central. That turns them from a team that underachieved in the season and then maybe overachieved in the playoffs (odd to think that, but still...) into a team that had an acceptable season followed by a playoffs that was more disappointing than it actually was. Or hey, maybe they end up drawing an easier team like LA in the playoffs and advancing into the 2nd round. Then what do we think of this past season? It would still be the same team we're talking about, right? The team that we all feel had a shitty year and wasn't that great...

I know that paragraph is one big 'what if', but that's what we're dealing with here (what if detroit goes away). To be the best, you have to beat the best and quite frankly, Detroit isn't even the best. The Hawks are good enough to hang with any team in the league... there's no reason to hope for an easier road for them.

Fact: hawks played their schedule and got a gift from Dallas

All the other stuff is just a bunch of what ifs. We will never know that outcome of your paragraph, and never will since it isnt real. I guess that is just a thought for fans to keep being positive. Typical chicago fans making excuses for everything that goes wrong with their teams.

 

[tbo41fan]

Fact: hawks played their schedule and got a gift from Dallas

All the other stuff is just a bunch of what ifs. We will never know that outcome of your paragraph, and never will since it isnt real. I guess that is just a thought for fans to keep being positive. Typical chicago fans making excuses for everything that goes wrong with their teams.

I think what Buff was trying to say was that the Hawks played in the toughest division in the West last year...IF that team were in a different division, they would have made the playoffs more comfortably...

but like you said, we will never know

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

Fact: hawks played their schedule and got a gift from Dallas

All the other stuff is just a bunch of what ifs. We will never know that outcome of your paragraph, and never will since it isnt real. I guess that is just a thought for fans to keep being positive. Typical chicago fans making excuses for everything that goes wrong with their teams.

People want them to lose Detroit as a divisional foe so they can have an easier schedule.

That's exactly what I was pointing out. :shrug:

 

[DewsSox79]

People want them to lose Detroit as a divisional foe so they can have an easier schedule.

That's exactly what I was pointing out. :shrug:

an easier schedule is nice, but at the same time, I would still like to see other teams a bit more. Seeing CBJ,STL,MIN etc would get stale pretty quick.

If detroit is gone, we get that division probably every year.

 

[nickofypres]

an easier schedule is nice, but at the same time, I would still like to see other teams a bit more. Seeing CBJ,STL,MIN etc would get stale pretty quick.

Meh, I can live with it because of:

If detroit is gone, we get that division probably every year.

 

[ClydeLee]

I just don't agree with the idea of leaving Chicago the only original team in the West, but I don't believe it will happen anyway.

Do people actually think Phoenix is going to stay after next year? Bring back the Nordiques or heck it'd be funny to once again see the Whalers and this whole debate of moving Detroit or Columbus east is moot.

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

an easier schedule is nice, but at the same time, I would still like to see other teams a bit more. Seeing CBJ,STL,MIN etc would get stale pretty quick.

Agree 100%. Regardless how divisions shake out, I'd love to see more games against the better teams in the east. Hell, I'd be happy with more than 1 game against Pittsburgh a year. Hawks Penguins games in the past two seasons have been amazing games.

Surely someone in the league front office has to recognize this.

 

[DewsSox79]

Agree 100%. Regardless how divisions shake out, I'd love to see more games against the better teams in the east. Hell, I'd be happy with more than 1 game against Pittsburgh a year. Hawks Penguins games in the past two seasons have been amazing games.

Surely someone in the league front office has to recognize this.

the NHL has made improvements marketing the league, but they have some work to do. It would be nice to see the leafs and rangers more. We would be in a division with pretty much majority expansion teams. I know we have to play the west a lot, but I want to see more of the east.

 

[Popinski Soda]

If we can avoid the good guys, we have a better shot at winning. This is a loser mentality.

Repeatedly playing a good team like Detroit not only makes for good entertaining games to watch (we the fans win here), but it forces the Hawks to up their game and it lets them know where they stand against elite teams in the league.

Dewsox likes to repeatedly point out that the Hawks fell ass backwards into the playoffs this past season and technically he's right. But go back and swap Chicago and Vancouver (putting Chicago in the weak Northwest division). You can't deny that the Hawks would have had an easier road getting into the playoffs than they did playing in the tougher Central. That turns them from a team that underachieved in the season and then maybe overachieved in the playoffs (odd to think that, but still...) into a team that had an acceptable season followed by a playoffs that was more disappointing than it actually was. Or hey, maybe they end up drawing an easier team like LA in the playoffs and advancing into the 2nd round. Then what do we think of this past season? It would still be the same team we're talking about, right? The team that we all feel had a shitty year and wasn't that great...

I know that paragraph is one big 'what if', but that's what we're dealing with here (what if detroit goes away). To be the best, you have to beat the best and quite frankly, Detroit isn't even the best. The Hawks are good enough to hang with any team in the league... there's no reason to hope for an easier road for them.

That's exactly the point I was trying to make above, only more eloquently put. I could not agree more.