Report: Reds, Castellanos close to deal?

[Parade_Rain]

Back to the cellar the Cubbies go.

 

[CSF77]

Would rather have him than Bryant

Cubs still could get him if he opts out after the dust has settled on the north side.

But KB is a better talent. Nick can hit. Bryant can hit. Bryant can play D. Nick can't. Bryant gets on base near .400. Nick closer to .330.

Over all Nick had a good run with the Cubs and got paid. Bryant has a superior track record.

But if it is about the pay day. Well same agent so both will be max paid for their talent.

 

[anotheridiot]

4 year deal with the Reds.

Wonder what Boreass told him to hold out for when he got the 16 that was expected.

 

[kerrywoodwins20]

Coulda afforded him if Theo didn’t waste the money on Kimbrel.

Remember that while he’s raking in Cincinnati.

 

[FattSlimm]

Blaming Ricketts is really stupid IMO.

I believe if Ricketts believed that spending $20,000,000 more would fix the team, he’d do it.

But there are some problems with that. He knows there are 5 glaring holes, not just one. And he has no confidence that Theo will fix the issue if he gives more money, which is a fair belief considering how badly Theo has spent money since 2016.

So you don’t think the Marquee sports network is another money grab?

 

[kerrywoodwins20]

So you don’t think the Marquee sports network is another money grab?

Everything rich people do is to get richer. So of course it is to make money.

My point is more that Ricketts has decided escalating penalties for the luxury tax isn’t worth it for this team because Theo fucked up the roster so seriously.

 

[CSF77]

I'm pretty sure what cash is made by The Cubs goes back to the team. You have to remember that there is overhead that is outside of team payroll. And that is at 200M. Then taxes and payroll and upkeep of all of their owned property.

Some here just think Joe is funding the team. He is not. He bought the team for the kids to run and the cash that used comes from the Cubs not from Joe.

It is pretty amazing how people just think that there is this endless supply chain when Tom pretty much said that Joe is not involved with the Cubs.

Which means. If Joe was finding then he would be indirectly involved. But involved.

See how that works.

 

[FattSlimm]

1. Reds look better. So they look like a 4th place team.

2. Conspersy theory 101. The Boras did it.

3. All teams are owned by billionaires. But all teams have to adhere to lux tax rules. And the Cubs are paying out over 200 mil. Which is far more than 3/4 of the league is paying. But the Ricketts are cheap? Ok sure what ever you say bud.

The White Sox don’t draw shit for crowds yet are signing free agents at an alarming rate. I never liked the Ricketts and never will. They starved the way rooftop owners out by putting shitty teams on the field in order to bankrupt them and buy them out. Now they want us to pay money to watch a team on tv that has sucked for three straight seasons and has made no significant moves this off season. SMH

 

[Castor76]

The White Sox don’t draw shit for crowds yet are signing free agents at an alarming rate. I never liked the Ricketts and never will. They starved the way rooftop owners out by putting shitty teams on the field in order to bankrupt them and buy them out. Now they want us to pay money to watch a team on tv that has sucked for three straight seasons and has made no significant moves this off season. SMH

So don't buy that network and watch highlights on ESPN.

The White Sox haven't had a payroll above $125 M except for once before this season in this century. And if you you think making the playoffs 2 of 3 seasons with one trip to the NLCS is sucking, then cheer for the Astros or Dodgers I guess. Or you could try being a Marlins fan or the Rangers.

 

[CSF77]

The White Sox don’t draw shit for crowds yet are signing free agents at an alarming rate. I never liked the Ricketts and never will. They starved the way rooftop owners out by putting shitty teams on the field in order to bankrupt them and buy them out. Now they want us to pay money to watch a team on tv that has sucked for three straight seasons and has made no significant moves this off season. SMH

Sox have a smaller payroll....

Cubs: $208,000,000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...pkTXz_kHh773JvhCXLVXxkTWg/edit#gid=1520401900

sox

$158,375,833

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...an5IOuYnLcJG-bjolPjCtc6q0x6HPrNXJ7Zv7/pubhtml

They are 49mil under tax.

Are you really this ignorant?

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Sox have a smaller payroll....

Cubs: $208,000,000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...pkTXz_kHh773JvhCXLVXxkTWg/edit#gid=1520401900

sox

$158,375,833

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...an5IOuYnLcJG-bjolPjCtc6q0x6HPrNXJ7Zv7/pubhtml

They are 49mil under tax.

Are you really this ignorant?

He hasn't shown much capacity for comprehension in this thread

 

[FattSlimm]

Sox have a smaller payroll....

Cubs: $208,000,000 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...pkTXz_kHh773JvhCXLVXxkTWg/edit#gid=1520401900

sox

$158,375,833

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...an5IOuYnLcJG-bjolPjCtc6q0x6HPrNXJ7Zv7/pubhtml

They are 49mil under tax.

Are you really this ignorant?

Absolutely not, I just don’t want to see an owner claim that they are a fan and will do whatever it takes to win and when it gets down to it they freeze. If you are silly enough to drink the Cubs Kool-Aid then keep on drinking, I refuse to spend or give a penny that will make its way to the Ricketts hands until they put a quality product on the field.

 

[FattSlimm]

So don't buy that network and watch highlights on ESPN.

The White Sox haven't had a payroll above $125 M except for once before this season in this century. And if you you think making the playoffs 2 of 3 seasons with one trip to the NLCS is sucking, then cheer for the Astros or Dodgers I guess. Or you could try being a Marlins fan or the Rangers.

It’s just sad seeing all of these Cubs fans let the Ricketts go and buy the poor excuse. It’s an embarrassing time to be a Cubs fan at least to this point in the off season. Any off season the White Sux have that is better than the Cubs is just plain uncalled for. Hopefully the Bryant arbitration mockery can be finalized soon and they can make some moves to actually improve going into this season.

 

[kerrywoodwins20]

It’s just sad seeing all of these Cubs fans let the Ricketts go and buy the poor excuse. It’s an embarrassing time to be a Cubs fan at least to this point in the off season. Any off season the White Sux have that is better than the Cubs is just plain uncalled for. Hopefully the Bryant arbitration mockery can be finalized soon and they can make some moves to actually improve going into this season.

Why are you blaming Ricketts and not Theo? Makes zero sense.

Ricketts gave Theo the pass to sign Kimbrel during the season last year and Kimbrel was a joke.

You think Ricketts should just let Theo sign every single guy he asks to sign?

Maybe that would fly if Theo showed any ability to spend wisely. He hasn't.

I have a feeling we would be spending if we were a player or two away from another World Series title. We aren't.

 

[FattSlimm]

Why are you blaming Ricketts and not Theo? Makes zero sense.

Ricketts gave Theo the pass to sign Kimbrel during the season last year and Kimbrel was a joke.

You think Ricketts should just let Theo sign every single guy he asks to sign?

Maybe that would fly if Theo showed any ability to spend wisely. He hasn't.

I have a feeling we would be spending if we were a player or two away from another World Series title. We aren't.

If what the rest of the posters on here are saying the Cubs should just trade everyone and rebuild as there seems to be no desire to win.

 

[anotheridiot]

If what the rest of the posters on here are saying the Cubs should just trade everyone and rebuild as there seems to be no desire to win.

The only good free agent signing was Zobrist, then Lester. There has not been good choices made going on 5 years after starting with a horrendous choice of Heyward.
Theo drafts and builds. Wins a world series and he is lost after that. Eventually you stop throwing gasoline on the fire.

That is the main reason I want Heyward gone. It takes us back to the drafted and original move core, developing and being paid. Something I figured cub fans would hate because you cant get every name that is available, it was a roster we were going to have to live with for 10 years, no major changes. Two off seasons and fans are jumping off the bandwagon, thats fine, more room for us.

 

[CSF77]

If what the rest of the posters on here are saying the Cubs should just trade everyone and rebuild as there seems to be no desire to win.

I would rather watch things play out at this point.

Pushing my desires to win with no regard to reality is unrealistic. And all it does is make me a bitter person.

 

[FattSlimm]

The only good free agent signing was Zobrist, then Lester. There has not been good choices made going on 5 years after starting with a horrendous choice of Heyward.
Theo drafts and builds. Wins a world series and he is lost after that. Eventually you stop throwing gasoline on the fire.

That is the main reason I want Heyward gone. It takes us back to the drafted and original move core, developing and being paid. Something I figured cub fans would hate because you cant get every name that is available, it was a roster we were going to have to live with for 10 years, no major changes. Two off seasons and fans are jumping off the bandwagon, thats fine, more room for us.

I am the farthest thing from a band wagoner as I have been a fan thru the darkest times in Chicago Cubs baseball as have many others. I agree wholeheartedly that Theo can only draft from a top 10 position and build a team that way but cannot maintain that success over the long haul. I guess it could be worse and we could be Dodger fans who are there every year but can’t get over the top.

 

[anotheridiot]

I am the farthest thing from a band wagoner as I have been a fan thru the darkest times in Chicago Cubs baseball as have many others. I agree wholeheartedly that Theo can only draft from a top 10 position and build a team that way but cannot maintain that success over the long haul. I guess it could be worse and we could be Dodger fans who are there every year but can’t get over the top.

Thats the thing, he does something better than possibly anyone in baseball ever has, but had the same problems maintaining and choosing free agents in Boston.

I honestly think Theo needs to go to Cleveland and go for the trifecta, but if he wants to stay here, its gotta get back to what he knows best, and big names like Heyward, Ramirez, Drew, Darvish, Crawford as well as countless others just simply did not work.

Somehow Nico slid down to 25, that was a gift. Start getting the pitching moving thru the system so we dont need 30 million dollar arms blowing up the payroll. We committed 15 million to Bote while signing Descalso. But the real problems just fester here.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

The White Sox don’t draw shit for crowds yet are signing free agents at an alarming rate. I never liked the Ricketts and never will. They starved the way rooftop owners out by putting shitty teams on the field in order to bankrupt them and buy them out. Now they want us to pay money to watch a team on tv that has sucked for three straight seasons and has made no significant moves this off season. SMH

Oh those poor rooftop owners.