Ric Bucher confirms Bosh status!!!

[Rose1]

Hey guys,

ESPN NBA analyst Ric Bucher was interviewed today on The Bill Watters Show on AM640.

Here is what he had to say regarding Chris Bosh's future in Toronto.

NBA sources have told Ric Bucher that:

- The Toronto Raptors have either made or will make Chris Bosh a presumptuous contract offer this summer. It is basically a take it or leave it contract proposal. If Chris Bosh rejects the Raptors long-term contract extension offer (99% chance of occurring) this summer, he will definitely get traded this summer.

- The Raptors are not convinced that Chris Bosh wants to be in Toronto for the long-term.

- It seems as though, Chris Bosh is envious and jealous of the playoff success that has been achieved by some of his fellow Team USA teammates such as Carmelo Anthony, Dwyane Wade, and LeBron James.

- Unnamed NBA GM's think that Chris Bosh isn't a franchise player since players such as LeBron james and Dwyane Wade wouldn't allow their respective teams to lose as many games that the Raptors did during the 2008-09 NBA season, even if they were not playing 100% healthy.

Bulls: Chris Bosh, and Marcus Banks
Bulls - Chris Bosh is clearly the missing piece for us. We have no guy we can dump the ball into when our perimeter shot isn't falling. No more crossing the fingers when the perimeter is having a off night. Can you say Bosh and Rose for 2010. I mean, seriously, can you imagine Bosh and Rose in the Olympics come 2012 in Chicago. Just let that thought marinate!

PG: Rose
SG: Gordon
SF: Salmons
PF: Ty.Thomas
C: Bosh
* Athletic and scoring punch lineup.

Raptors: Josh Howard, Loul Deng, Tyrus Thomas, and Bulls 16th pick
Raptors - This pickup gives them flexibilities to address certain positions they struggled at. Certainly acquiring Josh Howard solidifies their Shooting Guard position. You can say the same with Deng at Small Forward, whom is impressive to say the least when you ask Bryan Colangelo - that's Raptors General Manager. Raptors are getting back length, youth, proven production and flexibilities. This instantly makes Raptors potent at key positions. Like Ty.Thomas for instance, he complements Bargnani finesse game. He's going to grab rebounds and do the dirty work which was not Bosh specialty. This allows Bargnani to develop his rapidly improving game much more because his role is specified.

PG: Calderon
SG: J. Howard
SF: Deng
PF: Ty.Thomas
C: Bargnani
* Extremely skilled lineup with many proven options.

Mavericks: Kirk Hinrich, and Bulls 26th pick
Mavs - Cuban clearly knows he needs a Point Guard that will take pressure off Nowitzki. I'm sure he learned after that Chauncey clinic. Now Kidd is gone like wind after this brutal stretch with the Mavs. He won't resign, especially since he wants to win now. So you might see Kidd pull a Farve and head to the Cavs. The best option would probably be Hinrich, especially since his contract is favorable with its declining salary. On the court, he's reliable and can lead a team far. Look for Kirk to bring IQ, skill, scoring and scrappy play. Last, the Bulls 26th pick could add more depth on draft day. They also have a 22nd pick overall.

PG: Hinrich
SG: Terry
SF: Green
PF: Nowitzki
C: Dampier
* It won't look this way of course because the draft and etc. But as Steph would say, "Hinrich is more better and youthier than Kidd". Think about it, Hinrich is at the stage of his career which reflects Billups'. He could have a coming out party with Mavs.

 

[charity stripe]

You want Bosh playing center?

 

[Manic Devourer]

Replace Noah with Tyrus, and I'll be a happy man.

 

[Rose1]

We still would have Miller. Besides, He's stronger than Noah and can run the floor better. You must of forgot buddy, we're a running team.

 

[Rose1]

Manic Devourer wrote:

Replace Noah with Tyrus, and I'll be a happy man.

I hear you but Tyrus does have more numbers left out on his stat line when you think about it. He's not a finished product. He will average a double-double somewhere down the near road. He's only 22 - something like that. Noah on the other hand is a little older.

 

[Manic Devourer]

Rose1 wrote:

We still would have Miller. Besides, He's stronger than Noah and can run the floor better. You must of forgot buddy, we're a running team.

You talk about being a running team, yet you say that we still have Miller to instill confidence in me?

Noah/Miller
Bosh/Noah

Sounds a lot more appealing then,

Bosh/Miller
Tyrus/Bosh

Though Bosh hasn't had micro-fracture surgery, he isn't the healthiest player either, and gets nicked up quite a bit, so to ask him to continue to play center wouldn't be the smartest of decisions. Why do you think that Toronto took a gamble and acquired JO, it's because Bosh prefers playing power forward.

With a Noah and Bosh front court, you have possibly the longest, the fastest and most athletic front court in the NBA, and quite possibly the ugliest front court as well.

 

[Rose1]

I hear you but we can always get a Center. I mean either way is fine with me.

 

[Manic Devourer]

Rose1 wrote:

Manic Devourer wrote:

Replace Noah with Tyrus, and I'll be a happy man.

I hear you but Tyrus does have more numbers left out on his stat line when you think about it. He's not a finished product. He will average a double-double somewhere down the near road. He's only 22 - something like that. Noah on the other hand is a little older.

Yes, I'm sure Tyrus 'could' average a double double, considering how athletic he is but he hasn't in the last 3 season, and most importantly this season given the amount of minutes he has received.

Where as Noah has proven during the playoffs that he 'can' averaged a double double. Sure, he got more minutes than Tyrus which doesn't hurt, but he got those extra minutes because he deserved them.

And Tyrus is only a year younger. We're not talking about 4 years, or even 3 years difference here. We're talking about one freaking year difference in age, like that's supposed to convince me that one player has a lot more potential to grow over the other?

 

[Manic Devourer]

Rose1 wrote:

I hear you but we can always get a Center. I mean either way is fine with me.

You can always just get another center you say? Yeah Ok, just like we could just get another power forward?

Big men, aren't just thrown around not good ones, not starting calibre big men. Noah has proven to a be very good starting calibre big man. Sure, he isn't spectacular, nor will he ever, but if we get a Bosh he won't ever have to be.

Not to keep pestering you, but considering that you're the only one the boards at the moment, I have no other choice unfortunately.

 

[Rose1]

I fixed it. It does make sense! I have heard Beasley will be offered to them. I'm not big on that because he doesn't complement Bargnani in the front-court. I think Miami would have been better going with Brook Lopez with second pick. They got a big man alright.

 

[Manic Devourer]

Rose1 wrote:

I fixed it. It does make sense!

HAHA, well then.

 

[dougthonus]

So according to Bucher, Bosh will never wear another Laker uniform again!

No, seriously, I think Bucher gets a bad rap for reporting what Kobe told him. I mean you have to report that. Anyway, interesting stuff. I think Portland, Miami, and a couple other teams can make better offers than us.

Portland may not be willing to, Our only hope will be if Toronto doesn't like Beasley IMO or that Miami wants to hang on to him. We'll see.

 

[Shakes]

You'd have to think a Beasley trade makes the most sense for both teams. Toronto get a player who is enough of an unknown they can at least tease the fans with "potential" (and in fairness could turn out to be a pretty good player). If I'm Miami I make the trade because it's a win now trade, simply because I wouldn't want to gamble on Wade having a long and healthy career.

The Bulls offer including Deng makes no sense. Given we don't think we could even dump Deng straight up for an expiring right now, why do the raptors take him? Honestly if I'm the Raptors I take the risk of Bosh walking for nothing rather than take the trade suggested.

 

[AirP]

Rose1 wrote:

Hey guys,

ESPN NBA analyst Ric Bucher was interviewed today on The Bill Watters Show on AM640.

Here is what he had to say regarding Chris Bosh's future in Toronto.

NBA sources have told Ric Bucher that:


- Unnamed NBA GM's think that Chris Bosh isn't a franchise player since players such as LeBron james and Dwyane Wade wouldn't allow their respective teams to lose as many games that the Raptors did during the 2008-09 NBA season, even if they were not playing 100% healthy.

Interesting... D.Wade played 49 games last year and allowed his team to win only 15 games last year.

So he used this reasoning to say Wade is a franchise player but Bosh isn't? I'm not saying he's not correct, but this is just not a valid example of why.

 

[TheStig]

dougthonus wrote:

So according to Bucher, Bosh will never wear another Laker uniform again!

No, seriously, I think Bucher gets a bad rap for reporting what Kobe told him. I mean you have to report that. Anyway, interesting stuff. I think Portland, Miami, and a couple other teams can make better offers than us.

Portland may not be willing to, Our only hope will be if Toronto doesn't like Beasley IMO or that Miami wants to hang on to him. We'll see.

Exactly, I am amazed how much one story could make him look like a genius and then an idiot. But thats what a ******* like Kobe will do.

 

[chi_hawks_23]

TheStig wrote:

dougthonus wrote:

So according to Bucher, Bosh will never wear another Laker uniform again!

No, seriously, I think Bucher gets a bad rap for reporting what Kobe told him. I mean you have to report that. Anyway, interesting stuff. I think Portland, Miami, and a couple other teams can make better offers than us.

Portland may not be willing to, Our only hope will be if Toronto doesn't like Beasley IMO or that Miami wants to hang on to him. We'll see.

Exactly, I am amazed how much one story could make him look like a genius and then an idiot. But thats what a ******* like Kobe will do.

You wonder if Kobe would have opted out and said "eff off LA" had they lost to Houston.

I can only imagine the "Kobe/Rose" backcourt talk that would have come about.

 

[Frank Breakfast Styleham]

If John Paxson can get CHRIS BOSH they may as well give us the Championship trophy in October.

He is THE missing ingredient to this team.

He ain't gonna be Ben Wallace folks. This is a young blue-chip stud and he can get us to where we need to be.

 

[cool007]

dougthonus wrote:

So according to Bucher, Bosh will never wear another Laker uniform again!

No, seriously, I think Bucher gets a bad rap for reporting what Kobe told him. I mean you have to report that. Anyway, interesting stuff. I think Portland, Miami, and a couple other teams can make better offers than us.

Portland may not be willing to, Our only hope will be if Toronto doesn't like Beasley IMO or that Miami wants to hang on to him. We'll see.

Exactly, A lot depends on how Toronto Views Bargnani (if Bosh is leaving), meaning are they building around Calderon + Bargnani???

If so, then they will have to look at the fit - I just don't see Beasley and Bargnani fitting in - I also have doubts that Bargnani and Aldridge can fit-in together as well but MIGHT work.

I think Since Bargnani is more perimeter oriented, they are better off with either going for Tyrus or Noah and are much better defenders to have around Barny.

IMO, I like the deal involving any combination of these guys:

Luol Deng/Kirk Hinrich/John Salmons/Tyrus Thomas/Expirings/Multiple Picks/Cash Considerations?

I personally prefer to send Deng + Tyrus + Expirings + Milti Picks + Cash.

We can then Re-sign BG and then Trade Kirk for a serviceable big + backup guard.

 

[chi_hawks_23]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

The kicker is going to be getting any team to take on Deng's contract. If Pax can ship his contract off and pull back Bosh, sweet christ, I will start the Pax for President, 2012 campaign.

IMO, one more half season of injury plagued, crap results from Deng, and he is here for the long haul, pretty much crippling this team for 5 years.

 

[Newskoolbulls]

Am I the only one that doesnt want Bosh? He isnt a winner and he is not a true post player.