Rose faces 8 month rehab

[WindyCity7]

Taj is the keeper. Asik is expendable.

so you perform brain surgery also

oh course thats the final thought but if we can keep both we do no question

TAJ & ASIK over boozer

TAJ alone is overused & eventually will be ineffective or sparingly effective a la boozer & how much irony would that be

 

[WindyCity7]

The Point Forward

here's an excerpt

"The Bulls have been the best defensive team in the league for two seasons running while starting Carlos Boozer. They were much better defensively with Boozer on the bench in each of those seasons, and while that stat does tell us something about Boozer, it probably tells us more about the quality of the Gibson/Omer Asik combination and the damage those two can do against opposing backups."

 

[Bear06]

knowing the Bulls, Asik is going to be getting a 5 year 60 million dollar offer this off-season.

If Noah wasn't on the team maybe.

 

[Bear06]

People seriously overrate Asik on this site. He's great defensively but he's atrocious on offense other than being a great screener. And his offense is not going to get a heck of alot better. He has hands, weak low-post moves, weak passing skills, his conditioning is lacking, & do I really need to mention his free throw shooting?

If I'm keeping 1 of either Taj or Asik, it's Taj 10 out of 10. He's the player who lays it all out on the floor every single night. He's the player who's affected more games than anyone on the team this season. He's the only player on the bench who can handle starter minutes & COULD start on many teams. Taj is the keeper. Asik is expendable.

You're naive Asik and a lot of other players were affected by the shortened season and no training camp. If Asik resigns with the Bulls expect a better defensive and offensive Asik next season.

 

[Crystallas]

People seriously overrate Asik on this site.

For 2 million, <3 Asik. For anything above 4.5mil, he'll need to up his FT% to 70% and learn how to finish inside passes.

 

[Tazer4mvp]

Just hang on to the damn ball

 

[FirstTimer]

that would be seriously stupid


OMER is not i repeat WILL NOT BE MOVED

did you guys watch the last games of the last 2 seasons & who played thier heart out & left it on the floor

ASIK so cut that bullshit !!!!! he has limited offense but he also had NO offseason to refine it but he brings it ALL on DEFENSE & if it werent for a cj watson **** up we would have won gm 6 & beat philly in gm 7 so we would be playing game 3 in boston instead of saying the 2013 season is lost someone pass the kleenex


deng may be moved but i doubt it


the boozer for amare thing sounds ok but i doubt it actually happens


all this other jump off the cliff talk needs to cease PLEASE have some fucking faith in our FO

dont be fairweather ccs bros because alot of you sound like waffelers right about now

I love how people view the offseason as some magical time where players can some how get WAY better at something they may not be naturally gifted at. Here in Chicago we are still waiting for the offseason where Hester finally becomes a WR, Noah(who is more athletically talented and better at basketball) develops a post game, and now Asik too! Dwight Howard has struggled to add an offensive game over his career in the NBA but all Asik needs is one offseason.

:rofl:

Deng and Asik IMO is a dumb trade anyways because Eric Gordon isn't star caliber player anyways but keeping Asik because you think he's going to all of a sudden develop an offensive game of any real significance when that has never been his thing as a player....foolish and stupid.

 

[thechosenone]

Asik will always be Asik in offense. He can develop his defense even more. He can become a bit stronger. He can improve his FT shooting a bit. But to develop an offensive game? This is impossible. Having said that if we had a second superstar in the team to score, Asik could easily play as a starter. If you don't need scoring from your C his defense is more than enough for a C and he is the best C a team can have with that money.

 

[houheffna]

he has limited offense but he also had NO offseason to refine it but he brings it ALL on DEFENSE & if it werent for a cj watson **** up we would have won gm 6 & beat philly in gm 7 so we would be playing game 3 in boston instead of saying the 2013 season is lost someone pass the kleenex

Okay...now YOU are going to have to quit dicking around. Not only did Asik have an offseason...he had an EXTENDED OFFSEASON!!!

He could have hired his own coaches, could have approached former players on his own and asked for help...he didn't do that? That is his fault.

And we can blame C.J. for a dumb ass play...I agree. But nobody is blaming C.J. for anything if Asik wasn't one of the worst free throw shooters in the league. He has had plenty of time to improve his game. He hasn't, and there is nothing that shows that he will improve it so drastically that he would be considered a keeper.

Having a tall defensive minded center is not a rarity...having a tall offensive minded center is the jewel worth treasuring. Asik ain't that player.

 

[thechosenone]

[AI mode on]We are talking about Asik? our bench Center? We are talking about ASIK? Not a starter. We are talking about Asik now. Not about Rose, not about Deng, not about a possible trade we can make. Not about the player who will replace Rose next year. We are talking about ASIK. A 2M $ bench player.[AI mode off]

Seriously now. Everybody is saying the same thing with different words about the guy. He is a valuable player as a bench player, if we can keep him it won't be bad. But if we can include him in a trade for a BEAST under our basket he will be traded in a heartbeat.

^Every single poster here is saying this.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I love how people view the offseason as some magical time where players can some how get WAY better at something they may not be naturally gifted at. Here in Chicago we are still waiting for the offseason where Hester finally becomes a WR, Noah(who is more athletically talented and better at basketball) develops a post game, and now Asik too! Dwight Howard has struggled to add an offensive game over his career in the NBA but all Asik needs is one offseason.

:rofl:

Deng and Asik IMO is a dumb trade anyways because Eric Gordon isn't star caliber player anyways but keeping Asik because you think he's going to all of a sudden develop an offensive game of any real significance when that has never been his thing as a player....foolish and stupid.

Most, if not all, centers don't develop a post game until their 30s. Everybody knows this, and it can not be debated.

 

[Tazer4mvp]

http://once.unicornmedia.com/now/od...=espnmobileweb:chicago:wireless:chicago:index
King on Drose.

 

[y2chae]

Got to love the can't trade Asik talk.

 

[WindyCity7]

[AI mode on]We are talking about Asik? our bench Center? We are talking about ASIK? Not a starter. We are talking about Asik now. Not about Rose, not about Deng, not about a possible trade we can make. Not about the player who will replace Rose next year. We are talking about ASIK. A 2M $ bench player.[AI mode off]

Seriously now. Everybody is saying the same thing with different words about the guy. He is a valuable player as a bench player, if we can keep him it won't be bad. But if we can include him in a trade for a BEAST under our basket he will be traded in a heartbeat. ^Every single poster here is saying this.

thank you

hou & firsttimetroll are acting like i said asik will turn into a melo/dwight hybrid in the offseason & carry us to a chip via offense because i didnt

but a full offseason WITH TEAMMATES IN THE BULLS FACILITIES will be leaps & bound better than asik WITH THE EXTENDED OFFSEASON without teammates & the bulls facility wtf doesnt everone understand about that

a sightly better offensive asik with better conditioning = a defensive beast as a backup who can get a few points if needed

Most, if not all, centers don't develop a post game until their 30s. Everybody knows this, and it can not be debated.

& just to be clear i fully understand this & was not i repeat was not inferring he would develop a mean post game ....shit if he develops ANY we/he will be better

 

[FirstTimer]

thank you

hou & firsttimetroll are acting like i said asik will turn into a melo/dwight hybrid in the offseason

Umm, no I'm not.

but a full offseason WITH TEAMMATES IN THE BULLS FACILITIES will be leaps & bound better than asik WITH THE EXTENDED OFFSEASON without teammates & the bulls facility wtf doesnt everone understand about that

The magical offseason doesn't exist.

If it did, Joakim Noah wouldn't still suck in the post.

 

[Scoot26]

Can a player improve a portion of his game in the offseason? Yes. Will he become an All-Star stud from an offseason of improvement? No. Joakim Noah will never develop a proper NBA offensive post game. If he had one, he would already be good at it. Can he improve it slightly? Yes, but it will never be the best part of his game. With that said, its even more comical to think the Asik can improve to be starting material. Asik is nothing more than a career backup

 

[houheffna]

thank you

hou & firsttimetroll are acting like i said asik will turn into a melo/dwight hybrid in the offseason & carry us to a chip via offense because i didnt

but a full offseason WITH TEAMMATES IN THE BULLS FACILITIES will be leaps & bound better than asik WITH THE EXTENDED OFFSEASON without teammates & the bulls facility wtf doesnt everone understand about that

a sightly better offensive asik with better conditioning = a defensive beast as a backup who can get a few points if needed




& just to be clear i fully understand this & was not i repeat was not inferring he would develop a mean post game ....shit if he develops ANY we/he will be better

I don't understand how you think some player walks into the Berto and then walks out better. If Asik wanted to get better, he could have worked on his game outside of the Berto Center. NBA players were getting together and playing ball all over the country. Guys were playing pickup games, holding their own mini camps...you make it sound as if Asik went home, ate cheeseburgers and smoked blunts all summer. If he did because "there was no offseason" shame on him.

But for most of the guys in the league, they spent the extra time staying in shape and refining their games. Rose worked on his postgame over the summer...what did Asik do?

 

[WindyCity7]

I AM NOT SAYING ASIK CAN GET GOOD ENOUGH TO START HES CLEARLY A CAREER BACKUP IF SOMEONE SAID IT IT WASNT WINDYCITY7

 

[WindyCity7]

I don't understand how you think some player walks into the Berto and then walks out better. If Asik wanted to get better, he could have worked on his game outside of the Berto Center. NBA players were getting together and playing ball all over the country. Guys were playing pickup games, holding their own mini camps...you make it sound as if Asik went home, ate cheeseburgers and smoked blunts all summer. If he did because "there was no offseason" shame on him.

But for most of the guys in the league, they spent the extra time staying in shape and refining their games. Rose worked on his postgame over the summer...what did Asik do?

IM CLEARLY ASSUMING HES WORKING OUT IN THE OFFSEASON (WHAT NBA PLAYER WOULDNT ASIDE KEMP & DIAW :lolI HAVENT SEEN HIM WITH MY EYES

 

[WindyCity7]

:clap:

Can a player improve a portion of his game in the offseason? Yes. Will he become an All-Star stud from an offseason of improvement? No. Joakim Noah will never develop a proper NBA offensive post game. If he had one, he would already be good at it. Can he improve it slightly? Yes, but it will never be the best part of his game. With that said, its even more comical to think the Asik can improve to be starting material. Asik is nothing more than a career backup

NEVER UNLESS BOOZ/NOAH & PIPPEN GO DOWN AT THE SAME DAMN TIME- in my future voice