TheStig wrote:
Diddy1122 wrote:
TheStig wrote:
They never mentioned Vinny as likable. Rose said he watched tape with him and helped him offensively and noah said he got him in the game. Something a good coach like skiles didn't do when he had him here. Noah also hasn't had the issues he did before and was allowed to become a team leader.
You have to keep in mind that when Noah came to the Bulls, he was immature, out of shape, & almost immediately rubbed his coaches & teammates the wrong way with his mouth. Though I loved Noah's outspoken nature when he first came here, it's pretty much an unwritten rule that rookies don't flap their mouth & call out other teammates. Noah sucking his rookie year was all on him. When did Skiles have the time to even help him develope? He was only here for 2 months with him & was dealing with a locker room mutiny led by the $60mill paper weight.
When Wallace was sucking he had a chance to develop him. Nothing really changed after with Boylan. Even after that great game against the nuggets, he couldn't get that many minutes ahead of Gooden. VDN got him the opportunity the next year even when he came in out of shape.
So Skiles was going to sit Wallace? Right. He would've been fired in November if that happened. And don't even bring Jim Ball-Boylan into it. He was a Yes man thru & thru. Considering management threw the best Bulls coach since Jackson under the bus to side with cry-baby Wallace, there was no way Boylan was going to even consider giving Noah his minutes.
And Vinny didn't have anyone else at the start of that season. Gooden was injured & Gray was Gray. Plus Noah was not in shape because he injured his ankle & missed most of training camp, which kept him from getting his conditioning right. He got the opportunity out of necessity. That and I'm fairly certain that Pax told Vinny to play Noah more because that is what Vinny sold management on when he was pitching for a job. I'm not saying Vinny didn't have any help in Noah's development, but I think the addition of Brad Miller is what really helped spur Noah's improvement.