Second Half Discussion

[houheffna]

So if I'm to understand what you guys are saying, you're saying we have absolutely NO SHOT at winning the title. Miami is guaranteed to win and no one else should even bother showing up.

It's like you guys don't even get how good this team actually is. I don't get it. So basically we need to start a re-building project and gut the team right now and hand over the title to Miami without so much as a fight? **** that.

This team can beat Miami. They are not some Juggernaut that cannot be beat. I can't go in with a woe is me, we can't beat this team, attitude. I'm 100% behind this team as is and I feel that when they are 100%, they can beat any team put in front of them, included the "oh so stacked" Miami Heat.

lebron led teams have been picked to win the NBA title for going on 6 years now and it has yet to come to fruition. So, excuse me for thinking that this team can beat them, I just liked what I saw when the Bulls played them not at full strength.

So, what if we don't get Howard? Then what? Who's going to be the next pipe dream free agent that we will have no shot to get that you guys are going to obsess over next season? I'm just saying that I would like the focus to be on THIS team, not the team that has no shot at happening. The trade deadline can't get here fast enough for me.

I haven't seen the Bulls at full strength for long periods of time...but I have seen the Heat at full strength. And your focus is on the wrong thing. Its not about the Heat winning a title, though I think they are well equipped to do so, its about them beating the Bulls.

You can talk about the last 6 years if you want. The Bulls are not in the Western Conference. And if I recall right, the Heat beat them last year. What did come to fruition is that Lebron but a boot to some butts in that series. And what was the response?

Denial. Blaming refs, blaming injuries...etc. Rip Hamilton is not the difference between this team losing to the Heat and them beating the Heat. Sorry, I just don't see it.

 

[thechosenone]

So you don't see every single of the Bulls players being better than last year?Boozer is the same than last year?Korver?Brewer?Deng?Noah?Not improved at all right?Because last year the Bulls were 20th in offense and now they are top5.And they have improved their defense too.

You don't believe that Hamilton is a huge upgrade over Bogans?Because we play without Bogans this year and there is nothing we really miss from his game.Nothing.

Bulls without Bogans=Bulls with Bogans.

Rip can offer 15 points and 4 assist and he also can open the court for DRose.Wade should guard Hamilton and they won't be able to throw him on Rose.That would be the key.

You will say that they will throw LeBron on Rose for 40 minutes??Yes?

I will say BRING IT.That would be the best thing to happen.LeBron will be unable to walk from the 20th minute until the end if they have him on Rose from minute 1 till the end.The same exact thing that happens to Wade every time he is playing many minutes guarding Rose.You probably underestimate how fast this guy is.

 

[JosMin]

I'm still concerned about our lack of scoring off the bench. When Hamilton is healthy, I'd like to see the Bulls shift him to the bench and keep Brewer as a starter in order keep Hamilton's minutes down. I don't want to Bulls to try and push him for 35+ minutes a night and just break down again.

 

[Scoot26]

I'm still concerned about our lack of scoring off the bench. When Hamilton is healthy, I'd like to see the Bulls shift him to the bench and keep Brewer as a starter in order keep Hamilton's minutes down. I don't want to Bulls to try and push him for 35+ minutes a night and just break down again.

I doubt they do. They're going to watch Hamilton's minutes here. They'll likely have him out there to start and then part of the 3rd while returning in the 4th. If he's having a great game, he'll likely play longer. Either way, he's a guy they're gonna want relatively fresh in the 4th quarter, especially in closer games, which we'll likely see against Miami, Indiana, Philly, etc.

Got a lot to worry about here pretty much starting tomorrow against San Antonio. We play a lot of playoff teams over the course of the next few weeks (Philly, Indy, Orlando, New York, Miami, Portland, and Orlando again).

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

So if I'm to understand what you guys are saying, you're saying we have absolutely NO SHOT at winning the title. Miami is guaranteed to win and no one else should even bother showing up.

It's like you guys don't even get how good this team actually is. I don't get it. So basically we need to start a re-building project and gut the team right now and hand over the title to Miami without so much as a fight? **** that.

This team can beat Miami. They are not some Juggernaut that cannot be beat. I can't go in with a woe is me, we can't beat this team, attitude. I'm 100% behind this team as is and I feel that when they are 100%, they can beat any team put in front of them, included the "oh so stacked" Miami Heat.

lebron led teams have been picked to win the NBA title for going on 6 years now and it has yet to come to fruition. So, excuse me for thinking that this team can beat them, I just liked what I saw when the Bulls played them not at full strength.

So, what if we don't get Howard? Then what? Who's going to be the next pipe dream free agent that we will have no shot to get that you guys are going to obsess over next season? I'm just saying that I would like the focus to be on THIS team, not the team that has no shot at happening. The trade deadline can't get here fast enough for me.

I doubt you will be doing much posting here after June and you need to (most likely) eat your words in their entirety.

You'd think a Bulls' fan who saw the team of Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and Kukoc under Phil Jackson would strive for more solid team play than the team that currently holds Carlos Boozer (poisons the team defense). Last ECF (and the entire playoffs for that matter), it was essentially Derrick Rose going one-on-five against everybody.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Because last year the Bulls were 20th in offense and now they are top5.And they have improved their defense too.

The Bulls were 12th in offense last year. This year, they are 5th. And guess what? They are averaging the EXACT same amount of points per-100 possessions as they were last season.

Zero improvement offensively.

 

[thechosenone]

You must be joking.1st in assists per game and exact amount of points per possession don't make sense.Look better.Last year they were 20th and this year they are 9th.But **** stats.You really don't see improvement?There are games that you believe that they won't stop scoring.


*And 2-3 games that you thought that they couldn't buy a shot but that was without Rose.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

You must be joking.1st in assists per game and exact amount of points per possession don't make sense.Look better.Last year they were 20th and this year they are 9th.But **** stats.You really don't see improvement?There are games that you believe that they won't stop scoring.


*And 2-3 games that you thought that they couldn't buy a shot but that was without Rose.

2010-11: 23 assists per-game
2011-12: 23 assists per-game

 

[thechosenone]

2011-12 23apg
2010-11 22apg

But you are right..All the other teams got worse.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

2011-12 23apg
2010-11 22apg

But you are right..All the other teams got worse.

The team has improved offensively but extremely slightly.

If you want to know who the most efficient passing teams are, you should look more at AST:TOV ratio (SA and PHI lead).

 

[thechosenone]

Yeah.Both teams are very good teams.What is the Bulls ranking there?

 

[Glide2keva]

Yep, this team sucks and shouldn't even try since they have absolutely no shot at beating Miami. That team is completely unbeatable.

Why try?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Yeah.Both teams are very good teams.What is the Bulls ranking there?

I believe third.

 

[nwfisch]

Yep, this team sucks and shouldn't even try since they have absolutely no shot at beating Miami. That team is completely unbeatable.

Why try?

:bulls:

 

[houheffna]

Yep, this team sucks and shouldn't even try since they have absolutely no shot at beating Miami. That team is completely unbeatable.

Why try?

Its laughable when you do things like this...its a bit childish.

 

[Glide2keva]

Maybe, but I'm just saying that since the sentiment seems to be that they have no shot at winning, what's the point in trying?

It makes me feel like guys aren't behind the team. You can say you are, but I guess it's just a difference in the approach. I don't know, but I fully think this team can beat Miami.

Doesn't make me wrong for feeling this way.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Maybe, but I'm just saying that since the sentiment seems to be that they have no shot at winning, what's the point in trying?

It makes me feel like guys aren't behind the team. You can say you are, but I guess it's just a difference in the approach. I don't know, but I fully think this team can beat Miami.

Doesn't make me wrong for feeling this way.

I am not one of the people saying they can't beat Miami. But they would NEED to be 100% healthy (mainly Rip). And even then, I don't think they should be favored to beat Miami. It would take a series of perfect team basketball to edge by them 4 out of 7 times.

 

[Glide2keva]

Its laughable when you do things like this...its a bit childish.

Why aren't you posting in the GT?

 

[Glide2keva]

I am not one of the people saying they can't beat Miami. But they would NEED to be 100% healthy (mainly Rip). And even then, I don't think they should be favored to beat Miami. It would take a series of perfect team basketball to edge by them 4 out of 7 times.

I think they just have to play their game, with Rip on the floor. The offense is so much better with him in the lineup.

I think they CAN beat Miami. They don't have to be perfect, they just have to play their game. This isn't the same team as last year.

 

[houheffna]

Why aren't you posting in the GT?

My monitor has been broken for months, and my computer is hooked up to my television.