Should I stay or should I go.

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[quote name="supraman"]A former co-worker pointed out something to me. Having an ally in Iraq and in Afghanistan allows us to put tremendous military pressure on Iran since Iraq is on one side and Afghanistan is on the other. Do I believe that's why we invaded Iraq? I dunno as good as a theory as the others.



The whole WMDs threat, I don't really understand why we are so terrified of other countries getting WMDs. I understand that they can attack us with them but okay fine they wipeout one of our cities or sevrely hurt it. We make their country glow nuclear green.



I have no doubt in my mind that if a country hits us with a WMD we will just take them off the map.



Also the whole Dubya finishing what his daddy started argument I don't buy it either. Daddy had the means to finish the job but they didn't do it because they didn't want to. They set Sadam's military back 10 years and drove them out of Kuwait. Mission Accomplished.



The oil argument is feasible but I find it hard to believe that our government is THAT corrupt and anyway wouldn't it be more profitable to declare Iraq US territory so the oil is considered American oil.

As for when we should have pulled out. We should have given the Iraqi government a timetable as soon as their government was formed. And kept to the timetable like clockwork and if they weren't ready by then, tough shit we gave you the chance you failed deal with it.[/quote]



To the bolded, not really, i don't think Russia or China would stand for that. Its one thing to set up a puppet government, quite another to setup a soverign american commonwealth or state.



that and the people of the countries might not be too keen on that. Think about the liberation of France, what if we decided to make france a state, or the US sector of west germany. Despite the culture/government type not being "foreign" they still wouldnt stand for that. Then throw that on poor uneducated masses that already have a predisposition to dislike us.
 

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[quote name="TSD"]

The oil argument is feasible but I find it hard to believe that our government is THAT corrupt and anyway wouldn't it be more profitable to declare Iraq US territory so the oil is considered American oil.

As for when we should have pulled out. We should have given the Iraqi government a timetable as soon as their government was formed. And kept to the timetable like clockwork and if they weren't ready by then, tough shit we gave you the chance you failed deal with it.[/quote]



To the bolded, not really, i don't think Russia or China would stand for that. Its one thing to set up a puppet government, quite another to setup a soverign american commonwealth or state.



that and the people of the countries might not be too keen on that. Think about the liberation of France, what if we decided to make france a state, or the US sector of west germany. Despite the culture/government type not being "foreign" they still wouldnt stand for that. Then throw that on poor uneducated masses that already have a predisposition to dislike us.[/quote]



I don't understand why would we care about Russia or China? I just see it this way, if we are going to send our soldiers into harms way we oughta have something to show for it when it is all said and done.



I just look at Iraq and Afghanistan and wonder what we gained. I certainly don't feel safe. Oil prices aren't terribly low due to it. Osama bin Laden is still at large so we didn't even get vengence for 9/11. So I ask myself what did we gain? and I come up with we gained jack shit and it costs soldiers lives to gain dick.



I certainly mean no disrespect to our armed forces, actually I support them big time, they are over there doing what they've been told, I do not fault them for that, I just fault the suits that sent them there.
 

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I choose all the above as reasons for the invasion of Iraq.



We may have drawn down the combat troops, but we are not going to leave Iraq anytime soon.



Have we left Japan yet? Have we left Germany yet? Have we left South Korea yet?



I fully expect to see a US presence in Iraq and Afghanistan for many years. Who ever mentioned the effect it has on Iran scored a bullseye.
 

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