I was just suggesting a guy that we could possibly trade for, someone that would easily be an upgrade over Webb. There's no need for some to act like I was conjuring up some madden type trade and be a freakin douche. I've seen Collins play, he is easily an upgrade over Webb. I was only suggesting something reasonable that I think would be a good move on our part, and was just wondering what others thought. I wasn't looking for the crap you'd see on the CBMB where some just wanna be a dick cause they have nothing else better to do.
I wouldn't mind if the Bears made this move. What would it cost, Webb & a fifth or sixth round pick? He does have some starting experience, in 2008 he started 6 games, 2009 he started in 7, in 2010 he started in 3, and in 2011 he started in 2 at RT for an injured Andre Smith. He does have 18 starts in 39 games. The Bengals do have some quality o-line depth. Backup or not, I firmly believe there are a number of backups, at more than one o-line position that could outplay some of the Bears starting o-linemen.
Unfortunately, as sensible of a move that I think this would be, it just won't happen because Tice was behind Webb being drafted. It's all but obvious that there never really was a true LT cometition & Tice is sticking with Webb based on pride/ego alone. No one in there right mind can debate what Tice is doing based on the quality of play by the o-line. Tice has shown me absolutely nothing as an o-line coach nor does he have a history as a play caller, yet now he's the OC when a proven commodity like Bates is already on the coaching staff. I hope the o-line is just good enough to get the Bears over the hump this season but if not I hope the Tice experiment comes to an end. I don't know if the o-line has gotten statistically worse since he's been here, but it hasn't appeared to be any better either. Trading for Collins wouldn't bother me at all.
The LG position actually looked the worst in preseason. Webb did manage to at least look average at times in games two & three of the preseason, while Spencer was just downright horrible in every single game. Something has to be done about the O-line, wether its trading for a guy like Collins of trying to lure a guy like Matt Light out of retirement.
Emery gave Tice the benefit of the doubt going into preseason & the o-line play spoke for itself. Hopefully Emery is cooking up something for the o-line no matter what Tice has to say. Maybe it's time for the GM to take the reigns of authority for a change.
I would take a reasonable trade for Collins & a muzzle for Tice, over Webb & Tice calling the shots in a heartbeat.