So this Scottie Pippen thing, urgh.. LeBron better than Jordan?

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Scotties comment was most likely a knee jerk reaction after watching em beat us.
 

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I love Scottie but this was a moronic comment.

No it wasn't...you are going to have to face the music. Scottie saw first hand what that boy can do. I hope Lebron loses in the Finals and never wins a ring, but to say that the most talented player in NBA history just might live up to his potential is not far fetched at all...
 

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No it wasn't...you are going to have to face the music. Scottie saw first hand what that boy can do. I hope Lebron loses in the Finals and never wins a ring, but to say that the most talented player in NBA history just might live up to his potential is not far fetched at all...

Nope. Sorry. Different eras. Different players.

Regardless, NOBODY will ever live up to Jordan's standard. Nobody. Face that music.
 

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No it wasn't...you are going to have to face the music. Scottie saw first hand what that boy can do. I hope Lebron loses in the Finals and never wins a ring, but to say that the most talented player in NBA history just might live up to his potential is not far fetched at all...

Physical ability is not interchangeable with talent.

Jordan is the best player to ever live.
 

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Nope. Sorry. Different eras. Different players.

Regardless, NOBODY will ever live up to Jordan's standard. Nobody. Face that music.

How can you say what NOBODY will do? They said that 25 years ago about Wilt Chamberlain...they said the same thing about Babe Ruth...

They said there would never be a black president...guess what? Jordan set the standard, but I hope in my lifetime I see players pass it and set new standards.

I never said that Lebron was better, but his chances of being better are good...the man is 25 years old!
 

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Physical ability is not interchangeable with talent.

Jordan is the best player to ever live.

Okay? Your point? I still say Lebron is the most talented player ever...he has the skills and the physical gifts to be the best ever. Jordan didn't have what he has....nobody did...
 

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I think we have been bombarded by ESPN about Lebron for 10 years, that no matter what he does, it will never be enough for some people. I blame ESPN for driving the Lebron train way too long.
 

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its not even close, just like the article said, by him teaming up with Wade and Bosh hurts his chances of ever passing Jordan, and he already lost in the finals( got swept) MJ teams never lost in the Finals. Lebron has the god-given athletic skills, MJ worked day and night to be the GOAT.
 

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I'll agree with Hou and Scottie on this: Lebron has the talent and ability to be the best ever. We've known this to be the case throughout his career. But, whether or not he elevates to that kind of status is still up in the air and while I do think he gets the first of many rings this year, he still has a ways to go to achieve the same level of greatness that MJ has. And not to mention that he will always have this whole Decision thing and playing with Wade and Bosh working against him. We haven't seen a player with his abilities, physical and talent-wise, but we've also never seen 3 players agree to go to a team like this either.
 

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That Whoheffna guy is a joke. Just stating the obvious.

Aside from that, Scottie is wrong. First of all, too many people are hardwired into thinking about talent like theyre imagining LeBron in a football uniform. This isnt that. Basketball requires more short area quickness and balance. LeBron has really good top end speed and strength, which would make him look really good at the NFL combine and perhaps on the football field but basketball doesnt weight talent the same way. Jordan was a lot quicker than LeBron and had the balance to do things in the lane that LeBron doesnt have.

And then theres the matter of skill. No one was more skilled in the lane than Jordan and no one was better at getting into the lane than Jordan.

Jordan is on a totally different level.

Its amazing how people have forgotten how good Jordan was. Another thing that gives rise to these ridiculous comments is the fact that the rules are totally different now. Its much easier to score now. Perimeter players are babied in comparison.
 

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I'll agree with Hou and Scottie on this: Lebron has the talent and ability to be the best ever. We've known this to be the case throughout his career. But, whether or not he elevates to that kind of status is still up in the air and while I do think he gets the first of many rings this year, he still has a ways to go to achieve the same level of greatness that MJ has. And not to mention that he will always have this whole Decision thing and playing with Wade and Bosh working against him. We haven't seen a player with his abilities, physical and talent-wise, but we've also never seen 3 players agree to go to a team like this either.

When James decided to go to Miami, Jordan became Utnapishtim and James became Gilgamesh. There's no side door to the hall of greatness and James tried to enter the side door by going to Miami. Anything he does from that point has been cheapened and will always fall short. Jordan never backed down. Jordan never flinched. Thats one of the things people should look at but gets over looked. When too many people think of Jordan, they think of Nikes, Gatorade commercials, and ring counts. But the truth is, the best part of Jordan was what he did against the Pistons and Knicks. The league tolerated absolute brutality in the lane because Jordan was so f***ing good, and when Jordan went up against the Pistons and Knicks, he knew he was going to get annihilated when he went into the lane but he kept doing it anyway, and then when he got fouled he'd go shoot free throws. But he never backed down. When James chose to go to Miami, James flinched.
 
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Stopped reading when he used PER.

Having seen every game Jordan played from UNC to Washington, I can say that lebron is nowhere near his level, yet.

To me lebron is more Magic Johnson than he is Michael Jordan. lebron can do things with the ball that may not be flashy, but they are definitely effective. He's Karl Malone minus the post game, but plus the jump shot and passing ability. Fact is, we haven't seen a player like him at his size. I think he can be an all around better player tan Jordan, but he will never have the same impact as Jordan did. The reason players today are so popular is due in part to Jordan's impact on the game, nationally and globally.

Lost in all of this pre-mature anointing of the "king" is that people are trying to re-write history and relegate Jordan "yeah but" status. Jordan was the perfect basketball player in my book. He was the right size and the right combination of skill and athleticism which made a VERY tough cover. He had the power game, the finesse game and the skill game. He could beat you a multitude of ways. lebron doesn't have that yet, and he gets too much superstar treatment.

I don't think I've ever seen Jordan flop like lebron does, especially faking like he got hit in the face and winking afterwords. It's disgusting.

Jordan's legacy to me is secure.
 

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That Whoheffna guy is a joke. Just stating the obvious.

Aside from that, Scottie is wrong. First of all, too many people are hardwired into thinking about talent like they're imagining LeBron in a football uniform. This isn't that. Basketball requires more short area quickness and balance. LeBron has really good top end speed and strength, which would make him look really good at the NFL combine and perhaps on the football field but basketball doesn't weight talent the same way. Jordan was a lot quicker than LeBron and had the balance to do things in the lane that LeBron doesn't have.

And then there's the matter of skill. No one was more skilled in the lane than Jordan and no one was better at getting into the lane than Jordan.

Jordan is on a totally different level.

Its amazing how people have forgotten how good Jordan was. Another thing that gives rise to these ridiculous comments is the fact that the rules are totally different now. Its much easier to score now. Perimeter players are babied in comparison.

Pay him no mind, he defends lebron like he's getting paid to do it.
 

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That Whoheffna guy is a joke. Just stating the obvious.

Aside from that, Scottie is wrong. First of all, too many people are hardwired into thinking about talent like theyre imagining LeBron in a football uniform. This isnt that. Basketball requires more short area quickness and balance. LeBron has really good top end speed and strength, which would make him look really good at the NFL combine and perhaps on the football field but basketball doesnt weight talent the same way. Jordan was a lot quicker than LeBron and had the balance to do things in the lane that LeBron doesnt have.

And then theres the matter of skill. No one was more skilled in the lane than Jordan and no one was better at getting into the lane than Jordan.

Jordan is on a totally different level.

Its amazing how people have forgotten how good Jordan was. Another thing that gives rise to these ridiculous comments is the fact that the rules are totally different now. Its much easier to score now. Perimeter players are babied in comparison.

I saw Jordan, and if Lebron was on the Bulls, you would have your tongue hanging out of your mouth. And I have read where NOBODY, even Scottie, said he was better, he said he may be...bit different.

And I have exposed you to be an idiot for quite some time now. Stick to your lame ass conspiracy theories concerning the league wanting to take care of the Indiana Pacers...idiot!
 

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Pay him no mind, he defends lebron like he's getting paid to do it.

Yeah, he's a wannabe. He just mimics the media, which means, he just takes contrarian positions to stir the pot, which is SOP in todays sports media. But on message boards, thats called trolling. Obvious troll is obvious.
 

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You got some guy who watched all of Jordan's games calling Lebron Karl Malone without a postgame? How is that not idiocy? Magic Johnson could not defend....Lebron is the best perimeter defender in the league. Its hilarious to me that people get so upset when comparisons are made to Jordan. Pippen and Phil Jackson did it all the time.

I'm sorry but I can't say I am shocked with the vitriol I am receiving...its just that you have 35 and 40 year old idiots on here who claim to have seen so much and know so much and don't know what the hell they are talking about...
 

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Yeah, he's a wannabe. He just mimics the media, which means, he just takes contrarian positions to stir the pot, which is SOP in todays sports media. But on message boards, thats called trolling. Obvious troll is obvious.

And saying that the Bulls games are fixed after every loss is supposed to be an asset to the forum? You are not everybody's cup of tea either. I have yet to be banned...
 

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