Some Love for Ryan Poles - Bear Fans Only

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Bro the first backup TE is the TE2. TE2, even in BJ’s offense, produces very little on 99% of the teams in the league.

True, you can call TE2 a backup if it floats your boat. You got me wondering about Ben Johnson... I see last year he ran the 12-personnel 32.2% of his snaps. I'd say TE2 wasn't a backup on 1/3 of the plays.

 

[bamainatlanta]

True, you can call TE2 a backup if it floats your boat. You got me wondering about Ben Johnson... I see last year he ran the 12-personnel 32.2% of his snaps. I'd say TE2 wasn't a backup on 1/3 of the plays.

Now lookup his targets. He uses his 2nd TE as a 6th Olinemen. You know what a depth chart is right?

 

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Now lookup his targets. He uses his 2nd TE as a 6th Olinemen. You know what a depth chart is right?

Just cause a player isn't catching a pass doesn't mean he isn't pivotal to the success of a play. You got reception bias, Bro.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Just cause a player isn't catching a pass doesn't mean he isn't pivotal to the success of a play. You got reception bias, Bro.

I get that. But somehow you dont grasp what TE2 means.

 

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I get that. But somehow you dont grasp what TE2 means.

 

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910366529155154121

 

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Bears/Carolina trade final tally...

Bears receive
WR D.J. Moore
OT Darnell Wright
CB Tyrique Stevenson
QB Caleb Williams
WR Luther Burden III

Panthers receive
QB Bryce Young

 

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I think the Bears need to acquire a very good passrusher still.

Odeyingbo had 3 sacks last year, and Sweat only had 5.

Odeyingbo and Jarrett (though overpaid) are good for the DL rotation...

Unless Poles thinks he can get the guy in the draft, which seems unlikely, I think Poles needs to sign a FA like Za'Darius Smith (9sacks), if not Smith then Von Miller.

Why would this be unlikely in one of the deepest DE drafts in recent memory?

Is it deeper than the 6th or 7th round?

Just a gut feeling. Maybe it's trauma from last year.

The trauma continues...

 

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From The Athletic:​

"NFL Draft 2025 winners and losers: Browns make intriguing QB move, Steelers lose Rodgers leverage​

Winners​

The Bears’ plan around Caleb Williams​

Give Chicago Bears general manager Ryan Poles and new coach Ben Johnson credit: they’re not sitting back and simply hoping Caleb Williams makes a Year 2 jump. They’re exhausting the resources at their disposal to build an infrastructure around Williams that will help him become the player they need him to be.

So many organizations resist thinking like this and ultimately fail their young quarterback. It’s why the hit rate for QBs selected in Round 1 is under 40 percent. The Bears, going back generations, have been among the most guilty parties. Take last season. It was an absolute circus.

At least they learned from it.

Johnson’s arrival has changed something in Chicago: A defense-first franchise has shifted, remaking itself on the other side of the ball. The former Detroit Lions offensive coordinator brought with him an impetus to own the line of scrimmage, and the result in free agency was two new guards (Joe Thuney and Jonah Jackson) and a new center in Drew Dalman. Quarterbacks hate push from the interior. This should make Williams’ life easier.

Then on the first night of the draft, Johnson pushed for Colston Loveland, the shifty tight end out of Michigan. There’s no shame in a general manager giving his offensive coach (and play caller) what he wants: The Lions used to feast in 12-personnel (with two tight ends on the field) and the Bears will pair Loveland with Cole Kmet. (For those surprised the Bears went with Loveland over Penn State’s Tyler Warren, they weren’t the only NFL team to have Loveland ranked higher on the board.)

Adding a young wideout in the second round in Missouri’s Luther Burden III, who can contribute immediately from the slot, gives Williams another option.

Going offense with their first two picks sent a clear message: Caleb, we’re doing everything we can to help you."

NFL Draft 2025 winners and losers: Browns make intriguing QB move, Steelers lose Rodgers leverage

If Shedeur Sanders doesn't work out for the Browns, they can still take a swing on a QB in 2026. That lowers the risk of their pick.

www.nytimes.com

 

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From NFL.com

B+

Chicago Bears

Draft picks​

• Round 1 (No. 10): TE Colston Loveland, Michigan
• Round 2 (No. 39): WR Luther Burden III, Missouri
• Round 2 (No. 56): OT Ozzy Trapilo, Boston College
• Round 2 (No. 62): DT Shemar Turner, Texas A&M
• Round 4 (No. 132): LB Ruben Hyppolite II, Maryland
• Round 5 (No. 169): CB Zah Frazier, UTSA
• Round 6 (No. 195): OG Luke Newman, Michigan State
• Round 7 (No. 233): RB Kyle Monangai, Rutgers

Grades​

• Day 1 grade: A-
• Day 2 grade:B+
• Day 3 grade: C

Analysis: ​

• Loveland is a talented player, but we'll see over the next couple of years whether fellow tight end Tyler Warren, who went four picks later, would have been the better selection at No. 10. I expect Burden to be a stud in Chicago, where he’ll team up with DJ Moore and Rome Odunze. The Trapilo and Turner picks addressed needs, even if the team might have jumped the board a bit for them.
• Hyppolite was picked a bit earlier than I expected, but he has the quickness and toughness to make an impact on special teams defense. Frazier's a bit of a project in the fifth round, but he did intercept six passes last season. Newman could contribute at guard or tackle. Monangai could prove to be the best value of all these picks.

2025 NFL Draft: Final snap grades for all 32 teams

From CBS Sports: