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Yeah fields fanboys, we get it. This team is not fantastic. Lots of hurdles to overcome.
But then again, every rookie that goes to a shit team has the same issues.
I looked back at some of the fringe talent at QB that has kicked around the league the last couple years to see if maybe we could compare fields in a favorable light to other rookies with high potential, and maybe get some hope.
the results are not good.
On the plus side, over the first 16 games, Fields edged out Blaine Gabbert.
However, it gets pretty worrisome after that.
Here are the results of Justins first 16 starts-
Here are the first 16 starts of guys i figured had just as bad a situation as Fields walked in to...
Then, just to throw the fanboys a bone, I figured Fields at least had to be better than JaMarcus Russel after 16 game.... but.... no.
That is some pretty embarrassing shit right there- a list of the first 16 games of a bunch of scrubs on bad teams, and Justin is doing worse than the lot of them, save Gabbert.
Hell, I was even gonna throw every fanboys favorite commentator on the list, the mighty Dan Orlovsky, but alas, he didnt have enough starts to qualify.
I will point out that in 12 career starts he compiled a better td to int ratio, more passing yards, and a better passer rating than justin has had in 16 starts though.
But then again, every rookie that goes to a shit team has the same issues.
I looked back at some of the fringe talent at QB that has kicked around the league the last couple years to see if maybe we could compare fields in a favorable light to other rookies with high potential, and maybe get some hope.
the results are not good.
On the plus side, over the first 16 games, Fields edged out Blaine Gabbert.
However, it gets pretty worrisome after that.
Here are the results of Justins first 16 starts-
Justin Fields Passing Statistics for Career Games 2021 to 2022
Games | Passing | Passing | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Year | Tm | G | GS | QBrec | Cmp | Att | Cmp% | Yds | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Lng | Y/A | AY/A | Y/C | Y/G | Rate | QBR | Sk | Yds | Sk% | NY/A | ANY/A | 4QC | GWD |
2021-2022 | CHI | 18 | 16 | 4-12-0 | 222 | 385 | 57.7 | 2739 | 11 | 2.9 | 15 | 3.9 | 64 | 7.1 | 5.9 | 12.3 | 152.2 | 73.1 | 59 | 396 | 13.3 | 5.28 | 4.25 | |||
Average | 9 | 8 | 111 | 192.5 | 1369.5 | 5.5 | 7.5 | 29.5 | 198 |
Here are the first 16 starts of guys i figured had just as bad a situation as Fields walked in to...
Taylor Heinicke Passing Statistics for Career Games 2017 to 2021
Games | Passing | Passing | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Year | Tm | G | GS | QBrec | Cmp | Att | Cmp% | Yds | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Lng | Y/A | AY/A | Y/C | Y/G | Rate | QBR | Sk | Yds | Sk% | NY/A | ANY/A | 4QC | GWD |
2017-2021 | HTX,CAR,WAS | 24 | 16 | 7-9-0 | 369 | 571 | 64.6 | 3886 | 22 | 3.9 | 18 | 3.2 | 73 | 6.8 | 6.2 | 10.5 | 161.9 | 84.0 | 42 | 318 | 6.9 | 5.82 | 5.22 | |||
Average | 6 | 4 | 92.3 | 142.8 | 971.5 | 5.5 | 4.5 | 10.5 | 79.5 | |||||||||||||||||
Per 17 Games | 17 | 11 | 261 | 404 | 2753 | 16 | 13 | 30 | 225 |
Sam Darnold Gamelogs for Career Games 1 to 16
Games | Passing | Rushing | Scoring | Fumbles | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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Year | Tm | G | GS | Cmp | Att | Inc | Cmp% | Yds | TD | Int | Rate | Sk | Yds | Y/A | AY/A | Att | Yds | Y/A | TD | TD | Pts | Fmb | FL | FF | FR | Yds | TD |
2018-2019 | NYJ | 16 | 16 | 301 | 519 | 218 | 58.00 | 3464 | 20 | 20 | 75.0 | 37 | 249 | 6.67 | 5.71 | 52 | 138 | 2.65 | 1 | 1 | 6 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 2 | -14 | 0 |
Per Game Average | 18.8 | 32.4 | 13.6 | 216.5 | 1.3 | 1.3 | 2.3 | 15.6 | 3.3 | 8.6 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 0.4 | 0.4 | 0.2 | 0 | 0.1 | -0.9 | 0 |
Mike Glennon Gamelogs for Career Games 1 to 17
Games | Passing | Rushing | Fumbles | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Year | Tm | G | GS | Cmp | Att | Inc | Cmp% | Yds | TD | Int | Rate | Sk | Yds | Y/A | AY/A | Att | Yds | Y/A | TD | Fmb | FL | FF | FR | Yds | TD |
2013-2014 | TAM | 17 | 16 | 328 | 558 | 230 | 58.78 | 3594 | 26 | 12 | 84.5 | 49 | 385 | 6.44 | 6.41 | 31 | 56 | 1.81 | 0 | 9 | 4 | 0 | 6 | -24 | 0 |
Per Game Average | 19.3 | 32.8 | 13.5 | 211.4 | 1.5 | 0.7 | 2.9 | 22.6 | 1.8 | 3.3 | 0 | 0.5 | 0.2 | 0 | 0.4 | -1.4 | 0 | ||||||||
Per 17 Games | 328 | 558 | 230 | 3594 | 26 | 12 | 49 | 385 | 31 | 56 | 0 | 9 | 4 | 0 | 6 | -24 | 0 |
Gardner Minshew Gamelogs for Career Games 1 to 18
Games | Passing | Rushing | Fumbles | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Year | Tm | G | GS | Cmp | Att | Inc | Cmp% | Yds | TD | Int | Rate | Sk | Yds | Y/A | AY/A | Att | Yds | Y/A | TD | Fmb | FL | FF | FR | Yds | TD |
2019-2020 | JAX | 18 | 16 | 391 | 617 | 226 | 63.37 | 4409 | 29 | 10 | 93.6 | 46 | 271 | 7.15 | 7.36 | 81 | 413 | 5.10 | 0 | 15 | 8 | 0 | 2 | -4 | 0 |
Per Game Average | 21.7 | 34.3 | 12.6 | 244.9 | 1.6 | 0.6 | 2.6 | 15.1 | 4.5 | 22.9 | 0 | 0.8 | 0.4 | 0 | 0.1 | -0.2 | 0 |
Nick Mullens Passing Statistics for Career Games 2018 to 2020
Games | Passing | Passing | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Year | Tm | G | GS | QBrec | Cmp | Att | Cmp% | Yds | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Lng | Y/A | AY/A | Y/C | Y/G | Rate | QBR | Sk | Yds | Sk% | NY/A | ANY/A | 4QC | GWD |
2018-2020 | SFO | 19 | 16 | 5-11-0 | 387 | 600 | 64.5 | 4714 | 25 | 4.2 | 22 | 3.7 | 85 | 7.9 | 7.0 | 12.2 | 248.1 | 87.2 | 36 | 266 | 5.7 | 6.99 | 6.22 | |||
Average | 6.3 | 5.3 | 129 | 200 | 1571.3 | 8.3 | 7.3 | 12 | 88.7 | |||||||||||||||||
Per 17 Games | 17 | 14 | 346 | 537 | 4218 | 22 | 20 | 32 | 238 |
Teddy Bridgewater Gamelogs for Career Games 2 to 17
Games | Passing | Rushing | Scoring | Fumbles | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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Year | Tm | G | GS | Cmp | Att | Inc | Cmp% | Yds | TD | Int | Rate | Sk | Yds | Y/A | AY/A | Att | Yds | Y/A | TD | TD | Pts | Fmb | FL | FF | FR | Yds | TD |
2014-2015 | MIN | 16 | 16 | 324 | 497 | 173 | 65.19 | 3543 | 16 | 14 | 85.1 | 50 | 347 | 7.13 | 6.51 | 54 | 241 | 4.46 | 2 | 2 | 12 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Per Game Average | 20.3 | 31.1 | 10.8 | 221.4 | 1 | 0.9 | 3.1 | 21.7 | 3.4 | 15.1 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 0.8 | 0.3 | 0.1 | 0 | 0.1 | 0 | 0 | ||||||||
Per 17 Games | 344 | 528 | 184 | 3764 | 17 | 15 | 53 | 369 | 57 | 256 | 2 | 2 | 13 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Colt McCoy Gamelogs for Career Games 1 to 16
Games | Passing | Rushing | Receiving | Scoring | Fumbles | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Year | Tm | G | GS | Cmp | Att | Inc | Cmp% | Yds | TD | Int | Rate | Sk | Yds | Y/A | AY/A | Att | Yds | Y/A | TD | Tgt | Rec | Yds | Y/R | TD | Ctch% | Y/Tgt | TD | Pts | Fmb | FL | FF | FR | Yds | TD |
2010-2011 | CLE | 16 | 16 | 312 | 530 | 218 | 58.87 | 3340 | 16 | 15 | 75.7 | 43 | 234 | 6.30 | 5.63 | 64 | 252 | 3.94 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 8 | 4.00 | 0 | 100.0% | 4.00 | 1 | 6 | 9 | 2 | 0 | 6 | -9 | 0 |
Per Game Average | 19.5 | 33.1 | 13.6 | 208.8 | 1 | 0.9 | 2.7 | 14.6 | 4 | 15.8 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 0.5 | 0 | 0.1 | 0.4 | 0.6 | 0.1 | 0 | 0.4 | -0.6 | 0 | |||||||||||
Per 17 Games | 332 | 563 | 232 | 3549 | 17 | 16 | 46 | 249 | 68 | 268 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 6 | 10 | 2 | 0 | 6 | -10 | 0 |
Blaine Gabbert Gamelogs for Career Games 2 to 17
Games | Passing | Rushing | Fumbles | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Year | Tm | G | GS | Cmp | Att | Inc | Cmp% | Yds | TD | Int | Rate | Sk | Yds | Y/A | AY/A | Att | Yds | Y/A | TD | Fmb | FL | FF | FR | Yds | TD |
2011-2012 | JAX | 16 | 16 | 235 | 465 | 230 | 50.54 | 2475 | 15 | 11 | 67.3 | 44 | 325 | 5.32 | 4.90 | 53 | 108 | 2.04 | 0 | 15 | 4 | 0 | 3 | -39 | 0 |
Per Game Average | 14.7 | 29.1 | 14.4 | 154.7 | 0.9 | 0.7 | 2.8 | 20.3 | 3.3 | 6.8 | 0 | 0.9 | 0.3 | 0 | 0.2 | -2.4 | 0 | ||||||||
Per 17 Games | 250 | 494 | 244 | 2630 | 16 | 12 | 47 | 345 | 56 | 115 | 0 | 16 | 4 | 0 | 3 | -41 | 0 |
Then, just to throw the fanboys a bone, I figured Fields at least had to be better than JaMarcus Russel after 16 game.... but.... no.
JaMarcus Russell Passing Statistics for Career Games 2007 to 2008
Games | Passing | Passing | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Year | Tm | G | GS | QBrec | Cmp | Att | Cmp% | Yds | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Lng | Y/A | AY/A | Y/C | Y/G | Rate | QBR | Sk | Yds | Sk% | NY/A | ANY/A | 4QC | GWD |
2007-2008 | RAI | 19 | 16 | 5-11-0 | 234 | 434 | 53.9 | 2796 | 15 | 3.5 | 12 | 2.8 | 84 | 6.4 | 5.9 | 11.9 | 147.2 | 73.9 | 37 | 250 | 7.9 | 5.41 | 4.90 | |||
Average | 9.5 | 8 | 117 | 217 | 1398 | 7.5 | 6 | 18.5 | 125 | |||||||||||||||||
Per 17 Games | 17 | 14 | 209 | 388 | 2502 | 13 | 11 | 33 | 224 |
That is some pretty embarrassing shit right there- a list of the first 16 games of a bunch of scrubs on bad teams, and Justin is doing worse than the lot of them, save Gabbert.
Hell, I was even gonna throw every fanboys favorite commentator on the list, the mighty Dan Orlovsky, but alas, he didnt have enough starts to qualify.
I will point out that in 12 career starts he compiled a better td to int ratio, more passing yards, and a better passer rating than justin has had in 16 starts though.
Dan Orlovsky Passing Statistics for Career Games 2005 to 2015
Games | Passing | Passing | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Year | Tm | G | GS | QBrec | Cmp | Att | Cmp% | Yds | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Lng | Y/A | AY/A | Y/C | Y/G | Rate | QBR | Sk | Yds | Sk% | NY/A | ANY/A | 4QC | GWD |
2005-2015 | DET,HTX,CLT,TAM | 26 | 12 | 2-10-0 | 298 | 512 | 58.2 | 3132 | 15 | 2.9 | 13 | 2.5 | 96 | 6.1 | 5.6 | 10.5 | 120.5 | 75.3 | 29 | 182 | 5.4 | 5.45 | 4.93 | |||
Average | 3.7 | 1.7 | 42.6 | 73.1 | 447.4 | 2.1 | 1.9 | 4.1 | 26 | |||||||||||||||||
Per 17 Games | 17 | 8 | 195 | 335 | 2048 | 10 | 8 | 19 | 119 |