Source: Bulls eyeing Derrick Rose deal

[Crystallas]

rose taking less money is not keeping them from under the cap, so there's no reason for him not to squeeze every penny of value he has

There is some truth to this. But if that's the dead-end case, why don't the Bulls try to sign a few players, before they sign Rose to his extension? We are under the cap for next season, giving us an opportunity to extend Rose next off-season, as well as fill in our holes.

 

[Dementia]

Look at it from Rose's point of view. He deserves to get paid and he is by far our best player. Boozer's garbage ass gets paid $15m, there is no way Rose will take less then Boozer when he knows he is way better.

Maybe if our dumb over-paying front office wasn't so stupid, we could be extremely competitive now and in the future.

 

[Anytime23]

The front office isn't stupid for Boozers contract. You're nuts if you think that. They had to get somebody and Boozer was the best option at that point. They wanted to get Lebron to Chicago and Boozer seemed like te logical addition to make that happen.

At the time multiple NBA experts said the bulls got a good deal for him. I don't like his contract but they had to.

 

[Dementia]

The front office isn't stupid for Boozers contract. You're nuts if you think that. They had to get somebody and Boozer was the best option at that point. They wanted to get Lebron to Chicago and Boozer seemed like te logical addition to make that happen.

At the time multiple NBA experts said the bulls got a good deal for him. I don't like his contract but they had to.

So you think we paid a good price for Noah/Deng/Boozer?

 

[Anytime23]

So now we're talking about Noah, Deng and Boozer? Why didnt you mention them in your other post or did you realize you were off base using boozer as an example so you need to reach for something else?

There's no denying that they have overpaid for players. But they had to get Boozer. Like I said, many experts said they got him at a good price considers how much money teams had to spend. It's unfortunate he broke his hand and delt with injuries in the playoffs. They had to get Boozer and it was going to cost them because of how much cap space they had.

Don't sit and ***** about a front office that had drafted quality players and added enough talent to make them legit contenders for years to come.

 

[Dementia]

Yeah because it's so hard to draft quality players when you have the number 1 pick.

I said nothing about the Bulls front office's inability to draft, I commented that they consistently overpay players (which they do). Let's not try putting words in my mouth ok?

Who are these "experts" who think Boozer at $15m is a great deal? Why did we have to get Boozer? We went after LeBron and Wade and failed so the knee jerk reaction was just to get anybody and they did.

I don't think acquiring Boozer was an awful idea, I just feel we severely overpaid for him and we are paying the price for that now.

How exactly do we compete with the Heat when we have literally nobody outside of Rose who can create their own shot?

The only thing this team has going for it is we have trade bait, if we can ship Noah/Deng for Howard or get Iguodala or Ellis with 1 of those 3 then we are in a pretty good position.

Don't get me wrong, I like Noah and Deng but I just wish we didn't pay so much.

 

[Anytime23]

No one said you mentioned anything about the draft. I said dont sit around and ***** about a front office that built a contender, in which i mentioned both through the draft and FA. Last time i checked, Taj, Noah, Deng and Asik werent #1 overall picks. But i guess since our best player was the #1 overall pick, we can act like everyone else is.

i cant tell you who the experts were. It was over a year ago but i can assure you that multiple experts said they got Carlos at a bargain because he could have gotten more money than what we paid him. We got Boozer to lure LeBron in. If you paid any attention to the Bulls last season you would know this. They were waiting to see if Wade or Bosh would commit and they came out and said they were going/staying in Miami. The Bulls had to make a move so they signed Boozer.

We can compete with Miami. Dont let the 4-1 series confuse you. The Bulls gave away two of those games. Yes they need more help and they will try.

Whole point is youre sitting here and bashing a front office that did everything they could. No one seems to want to ***** about Rose not even trying to bring LeBron in. He surely didnt help at all.

 

[Dementia]

I didn't say the front office was completely useless, merely commenting that they have a history of overpaying players which I believe is stupid.

Absolutely they have done a great job drafting. Namely not drafting Beasley and Gibson and Asik have been great.

All I've been saying is that it would be much easier to compete (better) if we hadn't overpaid some of our players. I'm entitled to that opinion aren't I?

I know next year we'll get into a series next year with Miami where they double Rose and he has no one to pass to because nobody on our team can create anything. I just don't want a year wasted where I have to say "I told you so".

I want this team to win just as much as you do, but I'm a realist and if the situation isn't sorted soon then we may not be contenders forever.

This team will never win a championship with a Rose/Boozer/Noah/Deng core without a serious addition to the team either through FA or trading Boozer, Noah or Deng.

 

[Anytime23]

Youre getting ahead of yourself with the criticism. FA hasnt even started. Lets wait and see what happens. These overpaid guys are still good players. Deng and Noah are borderline all-stars. Boozer has been an all-star and you know what Rose can do.

Its unfair to say we'll never win a championship with this group because we have young pieces that havent even hit their prime. Rose is going into his 4th year. Noah his 5th. Asik and Gibson. Butler, that other kid we drafted sounds like he could turn out to be good when he comes out. We've got really good coaching.

Trust me, theres no one in the world who wants the Bulls to beat the Heat more than me. I live near Miami and ive dealt with these morons for years.

Deng at the time was overpaid but hes living up to his deal finally. Lets see if the others do as well..

 

[TopekaRoy]

I find it strange that people complain when teams won't spend the money to get good free agents. Then they complain when teams do spend the money to get a good FA and that player underperforms. As I understand it, in order to sign a FA you have to usually be the highest bidder (although sometimes a player will take less money to play for a certain team). When you are willing to pay an amount that 29 other teams think is too high for a player, sometimes you are going to overpay.

It's not the Bulls fault that Boozer broke his hand and that he was playing hurt at the end of the year.

I would bet that every team in the NBA has a few players that are overpaid and a few players (Derrick Rose?) that are getting a lot less than they deserve. That's the way the system works.

 

[NealKleren]

I wouldn't blame him for taking as much money as he can possibly get because he's earned it. But if he takes less money for the sake of the team like LBJ Dwade and Bosh to add pieces for this team(of course our 2 guard situation) I would be very happy.