Speculation arises on Quentin, Braves Beachy

[nwfisch]

Speculation arises on Quentin, Braves' Beachy

Wondering what White Sox fans think of trading an all-star outfielder, who has been hot and cold throughout his career, for a younger pitching prospect.

With that said, would you be open to trading CQ?

 

[DewsSox79]

of course I would if i knew Dunn was going to be Dunn and konerko was going to keep hitting. but neither one of those can be predicted. If we were to move him I would want to get another outfielder.

 

[nwfisch]

I just this deal being a bunch of smoke, but certainly trading Quentin for the right price would go all-in.

 

[Captain Iago]

Certainly be open to it.

 

[AE23]

yes id take some OPS major leaguer and a pitchers for Quentin.

 

[DewsSox79]

if you can sell high on him im all for it.....viciedo would be up here in 2 secs if they made the trade...and i want the tank up here now!

 

[Rice Cube]

I don't really understand this trade as I thought the Sox's pitching was okay. It's the offense that's a bit of fail. Wouldn't it be smarter to DFA Pierre, move Quentin to LF, and have Viciedo be your RF?

 

[DewsSox79]

I don't really understand this trade as I thought the Sox's pitching was okay. It's the offense that's a bit of fail. Wouldn't it be smarter to DFA Pierre, move Quentin to LF, and have Viciedo be your RF?

replacing FA's for next year, or ejax is getting dealt.

 

[poodski]

I don't really understand this trade as I thought the Sox's pitching was okay. It's the offense that's a bit of fail. Wouldn't it be smarter to DFA Pierre, move Quentin to LF, and have Viciedo be your RF?

Honestly the trade makes zero sense for either team.

 

[nwfisch]

CSN blowing smoke. Imagine that.

 

[Rice Cube]

replacing FA's for next year, or ejax is getting dealt.

If your team's issue is scoring runs, you don't trade one of the only guys on your team who's actually being productive. I don't know where this speculation came from but it simply doesn't make sense to me, although if the Sox have no long term plans for Quentin, then that's different.

 

[dabynsky]

I understand this as a move for next year, but really it doesn't make any sense for this year. Viciedo only improves the offense if he is replacing a guy like Pierre. Otherwise it is a lateral, at best more than likely, move from Quentin to Viciedo, and you add another SP to a pretty talented 6 man rotation. Don't see how that makes this team better this season.

Next year it makes a lot of sense because you can let Edwin Jackson walk and have a very nice cost efficient replacement lined up, but I don't see why the Sox pull the trigger on this deal when they are all in.

 

[Capt. Serious]

If your team's issue is scoring runs, you don't trade one of the only guys on your team who's actually being productive. I don't know where this speculation came from but it simply doesn't make sense to me, although if the Sox have no long term plans for Quentin, then that's different.

Beachy replaces either Buehrle and/or Jackson & Viciedo replaces Quentin in RF.

How does that not make any sense?

 

[Rice Cube]

Beachy replaces either Buehrle and/or Jackson & Viciedo replaces Quentin in RF.

How does that not make any sense?

Because you're 3.5 games out of first and you don't want to sell the pieces that actually got you there. Again, if you want to improve your team, you have to improve the offense, which I think means you keep Quentin, drop Pierre, and call up Viciedo. But I don't run the Sox so who knows...

 

[dabynsky]

Beachy replaces either Buehrle and/or Jackson & Viciedo replaces Quentin in RF.

How does that not make any sense?

Because you are replace either an above average or slightly above below pitcher this year with a guy that has pitched well his first time through the National League. If Beachy could maintain this level of production switching to the American League he would be a significant improvement over Edwin Jackson, but there is no guarantee that he will do that his second or third time through the league and in the AL. Viciedo at his best is likely to equal what Quentin has given the White Sox this season. So you are gambling that a rookie can equal the production of the second most productive hitter on the White Sox for the possible upgrade of a guy who has made 14 starts in the NL over your sixth starter. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me for this season which I thought was the only thing that mattered to a team that was all in.

 

[Capt. Serious]

Sooner or later, we need to start producing our own guys.

 

[dabynsky]

Sooner or later, we need to start producing our own guys.

I don't doubt that Viciedo could be a really productive OF. I am pretty sure that he would be better than 2/3 of that OF offensively, but I don't see how taking Quentin out of a struggling lineup right now makes this team better right now. Now if this deal for Quentin and Beachy involved some other deal that moved Edwin Jackson for an upgrade at 2B or 3B than I could see how that would make the team better. But swapping Quentin for an arm (unless that arm is Halladay/Cliff Lee/King Felix, etc) by itself doesn't make this team better.

 

[Captain Iago]

If your team's issue is scoring runs, you don't trade one of the only guys on your team who's actually being productive. I don't know where this speculation came from but it simply doesn't make sense to me, although if the Sox have no long term plans for Quentin, then that's different.

That's right on point and I think you answer your own speculation. I do not expect Quentin to be in the team's long term plans.

 

[Rice Cube]

That's right on point and I think you answer your own speculation. I do not expect Quentin to be in the team's long term plans.

My follow-up speculation then is, if he's not in your long term plans, he still carries at least Type B free agent status so the Sox might want to keep his bat anyway and then see if they can snag a comp pick for next year's draft.

 

[Captain Iago]

My follow-up speculation then is, if he's not in your long term plans, he still carries at least Type B free agent status so the Sox might want to keep his bat anyway and then see if they can snag a comp pick for next year's draft.

In order to gain compensation, doesn't the team have to offer arbitration to him and have Quentin decline? I'm not sure if Kenny wants to play chicken with one of his Standford boys. It might be easier for Kenny to deal him.