Stans goalie choices after last years cup win

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So Jeremy Morin, who's had all of half a season combined in the NHL has convinced you he can replace Brandon Saad? That's it? Anyone else?</p>


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And like I said, I'm done talking about goaltending with you TCD, it's completely pointless. Too many red flags in your thought process on the matter. Too many well outdated beliefs you cling to with it for there to be any kind of meaningful dialogue to be had. And I've answered that question as well, in other threads talking about his over the past week or so. Look it up if you really want to know.</p>
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Outdated because I believe goalkeeping has, does, can and will contribute to a teams over all success? Call me outdated then. Proud to wear that badge.</p>
 

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Outdated because I believe goalkeeping has, does, can and will contribute to a teams over all success? Call me outdated then. Proud to wear that badge.</p>
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SHUT UP! THIS TEAM IS THE BEST PUCK POSSESSION TEAM EVER!</p>


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It would be nice if we had a $3M goalie, that way we can have more puck possession.</p>
 

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None of those teams are the Blackhawks though. They each have their own separate problems besides who is in net. Come on, Philadelphia, Tampa? Look at the d-men for those teams. Again it comes down to whether or not you want to downplay the team in front of Crawford. If you want to do that, then that's where the conversation ends for me.  This team is almost identical to last season's. If you're going to tell me Frolik, Bolland and Stalberg are the key pieces they're missing, then I don't know what to tell you.</p>


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As I've said before, if they can keep him without losing players like Saad or Leddy or Seabrook, great, the more the merrier. But if there's a choice that has to be made between players like that, for me, Crawford goes before any one of them goes. Because what you'd be doing is giving up the type of players that allows this team to play their high puck possession game. Puck possession is everything to them.  When you start losing that, you start putting more pressure on your own goalie. That's what we've been seeing in this series. And that's something that isn't sustainable for very long. It starts to matter less and less who your goalie is the stronger you are in puck possession (and the Hawks have been either the top or near the top of that this entire season) and it's the same if you're really bad at it, because if you are going to be horrible in that aspect of the game  you can have whoever you believe is the best goalie in the league playing for you but it's not going to matter much when it's a shooting gallery he's facing every game. You can get away with it for games, even a series, but over the long haul it's going to catch up to you.</p>


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So it's really keeping a player at the risk of damaging the (highly successful) system of hockey the Hawks play, a player who is the most dependent on that system, or having to find another player who can find success in that system. And lots of goalies can fare well playing for a high possession team like the Hawks are.</p>
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<strike>Downplay then.</strike>  I stand corrected.   That's fine. </p>
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Those puck moving goalies sure are over rated and Craw just plays infront of good teams and any goalie could win the games he does because every goalie can make blocker saves, glove saves and kick outs like Crawford....so much parity after all in the league with goalies. They all have the same skill set and all handle pressures the same. Esp only after 4 seasons in the league.</p>


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Meanwhile Saad has 1 goal in 29 playoff games. Lets secure Saad over Crawford.</p>


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SIGH!!!</p>
 

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Well Crawford didnt do it again. Had no impact in game six esp on those pks in the second period and none through the series against the Blues. Too bad. he had such a great future too..just couldn't live up to twitter expectations.</p>


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thank god Saad won multiple periods of hockey in this series and was so vital. Im going to just start calling him "playoff game breaker" Saad. Seems like the perfect nick name.</p>


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bring in Reimer.</p>
 

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Well Crawford didnt do it again. Had no impact in game six esp on those pks in the second period and none through the series against the Blues. Too bad. he had such a great future too..just couldn't live up to twitter expectations.</p>


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bring in Reimer.</p>
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Reimer Shmimer, without strong puck possesion it doesn't matter. If you would lower some of those red flags you could understand.</p>
 

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Crawford is a very good goaltender.  </p>


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He is better than Ryan Miller, who will make more money than Crawford next season.</p>


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What does that do to your Crawford-is-easily-replaceable argument? </p>
 

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I think the Hawks should get Trotz to coach them.  All his goalies do way better than Crawford</p>
 

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I think the Hawks should get Trotz to coach them.  All his goalies do way better than Crawford</p></blockquote>


Now we are talking. Plus he likes Finnish goalies so Raanta would finally get his fair shot over the overrated and overpriced Crawford.
 

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Reimer Shmimer, without strong puck possesion it doesn't matter. If you would lower some of those red flags you could understand.</p>
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The Hawks' had shit possesion in this series (except Game 4)  - the third period yesterday still couldn't even out the game totals.</p>


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Crawford bailed the Hawks out, plain and simple.</p>
 

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Shit possession...yet carried the lead the majority of the series</p>
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Again, #50 in your scorecard, #1 in your heart.</p>
 

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This thread has chlamydia.</p>
 

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This thread has chlamydia.</p>
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I bet even chlamydia would win behind this defense.</p>
 

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I bet even chlamydia would win behind this defense.</p>
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Ya, but could you sign him for less than Crow?</p>
 

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Ya, but could you sign him for less than Crow?</p>
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I'm pretty sure he's already in the locker room...</p>
 

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