Steals of the Draft (Bears related)

Bort

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For the first thread I've ever started on this board, I wanted to see who (and why) everyone thinks were the biggest steals in this year's draft now that we've had a few days to reflect. I also want to bump this thread and crow about it in a couple years when Tre McBride makes his first ProBowl. My list:

@ #6 Leonard Williams DE USC (by the Jets) In a more sane world, he would have been the #1 overall pick. How sweet it would have been for him to fall just one more spot.

@ #23 Shane Ray DE/OLB Missouri (by the Broncos) A top ten talent who fell because (1) he had mediocre workout numbers with a badly injured foot that ultimately required surgery and (2) because he got caught with weed. I personally think marijuana possession is completely trivial, and his foot will heal. He will remain a beast.

@ #33 Landon Collins S Alabama (by the Giants) A heat-seeking missile who should have gone in the first round. He's also better in coverage than anyone seems to give him credit for. He's also one of the youngest players in the draft, which people often forget to factor in.

@ #60 Randy Gregory OLB Nebraska (by the Cowboys) Another top ten overall talent that fell because of a positive drug test. He is nonetheless a phenomenal talent with as much upside as anyone in the entire draft.

@ #71 Hroniss Grasu C Oregon (by the Bears) He is a great center. Not good, great. Why was he available in the 3rd round? A combination of bias against interior linemen and bad scouting, maybe? Anyway, he's a very good athlete and great football player with excellent technique and intelligence. Intelligence is an underrated attribute for a center. You want the guy calling out blocking assignments to be smart.

@ #73 Tevin Coleman RB Indiana (by the Falcons) How does a guy rush for 15 TDs and 2000+ yards at a clip of 7.5 ypc for freaking Indiana? By being an awesome running back. He's the best one-cut running back to come out in the past half decade. He will be absolutely lethal if the Falcons use a zone blocking scheme and allow him to find his hole.

@ #89 Sean Mannion QB Oregon St (by the Rams) Most people were calling this a reach. I'm calling it a steal. I think he's the best QB prospect in the entire draft. In a more sane world, he would have been a consensus first round pick.

@ #152 Jarvis Harrison G Texas A & M (by the Jets) He's a freak of nature, and he's really good at blocking people. He's extremely agile and light on his feet at 6'4 330. He had the best 3 cone drill time of any interior lineman in the entire draft. There are concerns about work ethic and desire to play football (his true love is basketball, he's just not nearly as good at basketball as he is at blocking people). At #152, you can afford to gamble, and this is a very good gamble.

@ #180 Michael Bennett DT Ohio State (by the Jaguars) This guy falling to the 6th round is completely, utterly inexplicable. He's really, really good. Like late 1st/early 2nd round good. And it's not like he was hiding under a rock. He played in the fucking national championship game. This is the kind of thing that makes me seriously question the competence of NFL scouts. He was consistently disruptive against top competition, he has good character, good technique, good athleticism, good work ethic, was highly productive, and his game translates very well to the NFL as a 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT. Why was he still there at #180? Bad scouting.

@ #241 Ifo Ekpre-Olomu CB Oregon (by the Browns) I understand teams being a bit skittish when a guy is coming off ACL surgery, but holy crap, this guy was one of the best cover corners in all of college football and a Thorpe Award finalist. Him falling all the way to the 7th round is fucking crazy.

@ #245 Tre McBride WR William & Mary (by the Titans) This is THE steal of the draft. This kid is a stud. He's a phenomenal athlete who runs great routes and catches anything thrown anywhere near him. What more do you want in a wide receiver? I think this is one of those times when the combine numbers are very relevant: when a guy absolutely dominates in a smaller conference and people question whether he has the athleticism to compete against better competition. So he went to the combine and ran a 4.41 40, a 4.08 20 yard shuttle, had a 38 inch vertical, and put up 16 reps at the bench press. Those numbers stack up well next to any of the top WRs taken in the draft. So he clearly has elite athleticism, even by NFL standards, to go along with his great hands and great route-running. He's also not small at 6'0 210. So why did he almost go completely undrafted? Because NFL scouts aren't nearly as competent and thorough as casual fans think they are. They collectively make obvious screw-ups all the time. This is one of them. This kid is a stud. Steal of the draft.
 
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Good first thread, but I'm sure you'll get plenty of negs and Omelet will confess he wants to rip his dick off because of it...it's the same tired song & dance.
 

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I agree with McBride. He looked like a good talent during the two bowl games.
 

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Good write up and seems unbiased. Thanks for posting something that won't make me question the future of society
 

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Shane Ray is a huge steal for the Broncos and it is really not fair he will be paired with Von Miller for years to come.

Randy Gregory at the bottom of the second is also very much a steal.

Paul Dawson to the Bengals at the bottom of the third could be the steal of the draft. Didn't test well but hell of a football player, kind of like a LB they have in Burfict.

Justin Hardy and Trey Flowers in the fourth could end up being steals for the Falcons and Patriots respectively.

Ifo in the 7th?? Crazy. Even with the injury concerns.
 

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You should start more threads. You're good at them. Agree on all
 

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I was told that the steal of the draft was after it when the Steelers picks up B.J. Finney (Center for Kansas State) free ageny who will probably start at Guard for them this season.
 
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Shane Ray is a huge steal for the Broncos and it is really not fair he will be paired with Von Miller for years to come.

Randy Gregory at the bottom of the second is also very much a steal.

Paul Dawson to the Bengals at the bottom of the third could be the steal of the draft. Didn't test well but hell of a football player, kind of like a LB they have in Burfict.

Justin Hardy and Trey Flowers in the fourth could end up being steals for the Falcons and Patriots respectively.

Ifo in the 7th?? Crazy. Even with the injury concerns.

Cincy repeating the Vontaze burfict drafting all over again. Both were great college LBers that had horrible Combines and dropped because of it but Burfict also had some on field problems as well.
 

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Bennett will be just a guy. Collins in the second is about right. Not a steal.

Agree for the most part on the rest. I saw Ray called "the very best pass rusher in this draft".

But keep in mind, in many cases, the definition of "steal" so the analysts is simply "a guy I had rated higher than every GM in this draft".
 

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I think Goldman is a steal. I saw consistent first round grades on him and some as high as 15 to San Fran and was considered the 2nd best NT 2/3rd best interior lineman in the draft. He is a monster against the run and still an ascending pass rusher. I see him as a fixture on this line for years to come.
 

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Nick O'Leary in the 6th by the Bills- he may never be Gronk or Gates but he will be an above average TE for his career, maybe like a Jason Witten.
 

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Paul Dawson to the Bengals at the bottom of the third could be the steal of the draft. Didn't test well but hell of a football player, kind of like a LB they have in Burfict.

That's a good one, too. Dawson could be really good.
 
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TJ Clemmings, Jaelen Strong, and Ifo Ekpre-Olomu are three that come to my mind.
 

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I think Goldman is a steal. I saw consistent first round grades on him and some as high as 15 to San Fran and was considered the 2nd best NT 2/3rd best interior lineman in the draft. He is a monster against the run and still an ascending pass rusher. I see him as a fixture on this line for years to come.

I like Goldman a lot as a prospect, and I'm glad we picked him, but I don't think he played as well last season as some other DTs who were drafted after him. I think he needs to develop better technique and better upper-body strength. Since he's kind of a project, I personally wouldn't call him a steal.

Then again, Goldman (like Landon Collins) was only 20 years old last season and was playing against guys than were a couple years older than him who had the advantage of a couple more offseasons of strength and conditioning.

So I like Goldman a lot, but he's a project who will only be 21 years old his rookie season, so I think people maybe have their expectations a little too high for his immediate impact as a rookie.
 

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Great list, Bort. I definitely don't agree with you on all of them, but some makes definite sense.

I haven't quite figured out who I'm crowning as this year's steal yet. But if I where to pick someone from your list, I'd say Michael Bennett. To me he seemed like an Aaron Donald light-kind of player. Not quite as productive, not quite as athletic, but not too far off, actually. Also they're the exact same type of player.

All the way through the draft I was talking to a friend of mine, and already in round 3 I was telling him, that I wouldn't mind if Pace picked Bennett. He's not really a good fit in 3-4 at all, but I just liked the player that much. I think he's a MASSIVE steal for the Jags that late in the draft!
 

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I think the Titians had three 'steals'
2nd rd Dorial Green-Beckham -- Top 10 Talent
7th rd Tre McBride WR -- as you mentioned
UFA Codey Prewitt FS -- #1 FS prospect in the draft
 

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