Suns to buy out Vince Carter

[Utahbullsfan]

If we signed him I would want to start Brewer and bring Vince in with the bench mob

 

[clonetrooper264]

I wouldn't mind VC on this team. We don't need much from him. Jut stay in front of his man and be a big body at the 2.

He's not going to be the VC of old, but some people still want to give washed up has beens like AI and Tracy McGrady a chance on this team and their best days were YEARS ago.

At least VC has been playing and can give us solid minutes at the 2 and would be a great upgrade over Bogans. This Dwight Howard obsession that has taken over this board is beginning to get to Melo levels. Are you guys seriously talking about J-Rich? Really?

So we trade all of our young players who won 62 games and made the ECF, for Howard and some vets with bad contacts, and that's supposed to get us past Miami?

Right.

I have some beach front property in Wyoming, anyone interested?

JRich can consistently give us 3pt shooting, which is something we're in pretty desperate need of. He's been shooting around 40% for the past few years so it's no fluke. He can play a little bit of D too, so he's not totally one dimensional. My only knock on him is his age and decreasing athleticism. He'd be good for another 2-3 years.

 

[BigP50]

I could see him coming here. He would take less money to get a ring imo and we obviously have one of the best teams.

 

[Glide2keva]

JRich can consistently give us 3pt shooting, which is something we're in pretty desperate need of. He's been shooting around 40% for the past few years so it's no fluke. He can play a little bit of D too, so he's not totally one dimensional. My only knock on him is his age and decreasing athleticism. He'd be good for another 2-3 years.

And that's going to get us past Miami?

 

[DCguy]

Vince Carter was traded supposedly for coming up small in big games(atleast big playoff games) and playing horrible defense. I don't see how that would change if he came to the Bulls. I know he will get beat on defense and have his moments on offense. But I would rather him come off the bench.

 

[houheffna]

Vince Carter was traded supposedly for coming up small in big games(atleast big playoff games) and playing horrible defense. I don't see how that would change if he came to the Bulls. I know he will get beat on defense and have his moments on offense. But I would rather him come off the bench.

Exactly, why is he even an option? Bringing in Howard is a bad idea but bringing in Vince Carter should somehow be entertained? I don't think so...

 

[clonetrooper264]

And that's going to get us past Miami?

Just bringing in JRich by himself and leaving the rest of the team as is? Possibly. With his scoring being about 6x that of Bogans' I'd say a few coin flip games go our way, and at the very least we have a legit chance of beating them.

 

[Utahbullsfan]

Just bringing in JRich by himself and leaving the rest of the team as is? Possibly. With his scoring being about 6x that of Bogans' I'd say a few coin flip games go our way, and at the very least we have a legit chance of beating them.

It'll give us a hell of a lot better chance than if we trade for Lee

 

[Glide2keva]

Just bringing in JRich by himself and leaving the rest of the team as is? Possibly. With his scoring being about 6x that of Bogans' I'd say a few coin flip games go our way, and at the very least we have a legit chance of beating them.

But we all know that isn't going to happen.

 

[clonetrooper264]

But we all know that isn't going to happen.

You never know. Bulls FO might pull off some kinda miracle. But honestly, I'm expecting Courtney Lee or going for Nolan Smith or Josh Selby in the draft if they fall that far. I don't know why, but I never feel confident going into an offseason that we're going to get anything good. Last summer was a bit of an exception seeing as we brought in 8 new guys or something, most of which have been solid.

 

[Glide2keva]

You never know. Bulls FO might pull off some kinda miracle. But honestly, I'm expecting Courtney Lee or going for Nolan Smith or Josh Selby in the draft if they fall that far. I don't know why, but I never feel confident going into an offseason that we're going to get anything good. Last summer was a bit of an exception seeing as we brought in 8 new guys or something, most of which have been solid.

I'm going off of history.

The Bulls have never been able to pull in the big names. Last one the did get was Dennis Rodman, but they were already a 3 time title team by then.

I don't count Boozer because they over paid him and he hasn't lived up to his name in years.

I really feel we need a solid 2 and a backup for Deng and we can beat anybody.

 

[houheffna]

I don't get this attitude of "we never got big name FA's...so why try to get big name FA's...its the Chicago Bulls, not the Siberia Bulls. Great city, great history...when Kobe wanted to leave LA, what city did he shout out? Any other cities? I rest my case. You can't win in the NBA with a baseball mentality. "Small ball" won't work in the NBA. You have to go after star players. That is how you when in most cases when it comes to the NBA.

 

[clonetrooper264]

I'm going off of history.

The Bulls have never been able to pull in the big names. Last one the did get was Dennis Rodman, but they were already a 3 time title team by then.

I don't count Boozer because they over paid him and he hasn't lived up to his name in years.

I really feel we need a solid 2 and a backup for Deng and we can beat anybody.

That's not their fault though. They're trying and that's all we can really ask for. It's ultimately up to the player when it comes down to it. If we weren't trying at all we'd all be saying "Well they didn't even try. At least if they tried we could've had a chance." What if the Bulls didn't try to get the Big 3? What would we be saying then?

 

[WindyCity7]

nah im good on VC

no {}'s on my squad

 

[Glide2keva]

That's not their fault though. They're trying and that's all we can really ask for. It's ultimately up to the player when it comes down to it. If we weren't trying at all we'd all be saying "Well they didn't even try. At least if they tried we could've had a chance." What if the Bulls didn't try to get the Big 3? What would we be saying then?

I understand that, but it doesn't change the fact. I'd rather they address their main issues instead of trying to appease fans who just want every big name regardless of how it impacts the team's future and moves they can make and the ability to sign Rose aftr his rookie contract is up.

 

[james k]

IF VC is willing to take less money to play for a title, he could be the answer for the Bulls in the short term--the guy can still flat out score.
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His age should not be an issue when you have 3 capable backups who could spot him for 20 minutes at a time. His defense could be an issue, but if Thibs could get Ray Allen to play D, he should be able to make VC at least passable on the wing. As far as him choking in the clutch, he wouldn't be put in many clutch situations as a first option--this is Rose's team. He can still easily give 15 ppg and spot D-Rose of his scoring responsibilities every now and then. If he wants to win a ring--big if, he could very well take the lesser contract to play for the Bulls...I feel that he could help the Bulls beat Miami simply because there would be no more double-teaming Rose. If you let Rose loose and have Carter spotting up and getting to the rim when the D closes in on him, Miami would be on its heals for a majority of the games in the would be series. Hopefully he cares about legacy and takes what the Bulls can offer.

 

[clonetrooper264]

I understand that, but it doesn't change the fact. I'd rather they address their main issues instead of trying to appease fans who just want every big name regardless of how it impacts the team's future and moves they can make and the ability to sign Rose aftr his rookie contract is up.

Well I'm sure they're looking for a SG as well. They're exploring all their options and will take them as they arise. Chances are, we're not going to get a big name like you said, but we may very well get Courtney Lee, which while not being the best of options, is at least a minor upgrade. It's not like if they're looking at getting an All Star type player that they're not also looking at filling in holes on the team at the same time. For all we know, they're only putting a tiny bit of their effort into trying to get Howard or Iggy or Ellis or whoever and 90% trying to Mayo or Lee or someone else. As for appeasing fans...I don't think it's possible to appease us. We're never satisfied...

 

[Glide2keva]

Well I'm sure they're looking for a SG as well. They're exploring all their options and will take them as they arise. Chances are, we're not going to get a big name like you said, but we may very well get Courtney Lee, which while not being the best of options, is at least a minor upgrade. It's not like if they're looking at getting an All Star type player that they're not also looking at filling in holes on the team at the same time. For all we know, they're only putting a tiny bit of their effort into trying to get Howard or Iggy or Ellis or whoever and 90% trying to Mayo or Lee or someone else. As for appeasing fans...I don't think it's possible to appease us. We're never satisfied...

Yeah true.

I just want people to be a little more realistic in their expectations. Mine are always low because I don't feel the need to get caught up in the hype of something that's not going to happen. I've seen this movie and I know how it ends.

The main issue is getting a 2 that can help the Bulls. We don't needs a superstar or a 20 ppg scorer, just someone who score when needed and can defend his position. They also need to not take a huge cap hit in the process so they can still sign Rose, should they go to a hard cap.

 

[sicko]

if the Bulls can DRAFT A GOOD YOUNG SG and maybe bring in Vince for 1 year to allow that young SG to develop then yeah MAYBE

but the Bulls are a young team and Rose is a young player, I would like to see a young SG that can come in a GROW WITH ROSE...maybe someone like Josh Selby

nobody is talking about Malcolm Lee from UCLA...UCLA players have been transitioning very well to the NBA lately, he could be yet another STEAL out of UCLA for a team, he is also a excellent defender, something I am sure Tom would appreciate

 

[Glide2keva]

if the Bulls can DRAFT A GOOD YOUNG SG and maybe bring in Vince for 1 year to allow that young SG to develop then yeah MAYBE

but the Bulls are a young team and Rose is a young player, I would like to see a young SG that can come in a GROW WITH ROSE...maybe someone like Josh Selby

nobody is talking about Malcolm Lee from UCLA...UCLA players have been transitioning very well to the NBA lately, he could be yet another STEAL out of UCLA for a team, he is also a excellent defender, something I am sure Tom would appreciate

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