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I felt like Batman Begins and the Dark Knight movies were successful because they kinda made Batman (and Joker) feel like they fit into a modern world.... they painted Joker is a domestic terrorist and Batman as a vigilante fighting the type of terrorism one could experience in the time period.

I think that is something people kinda forget with Marvel or DC.... the original reason their characters captivated people, was that the heroes were often fighting villains people could identify at the time.... Nazis or Communists or something/someone who kinda fit that build.

Super Heroes have always needed to evolve with the times, and play on the fears people have at the time of publication.

This can be done wrong.... surely there are few people who want to watch a Batman story where it is mostly about how Bruce Wayne got #MeeToo'd and #Cancelled, and then redeemed himself by becoming an SJW and embracing a trans-robot Joker for the individual he/she/it/they is/are.

But if you took Batman and presented him with a villain who was spreading a virus (covid-19?) and/or a villain who used wealth and influence to control Gotham and doom residents to poverty.

Or perhaps Bruce Wayne comes to find out his own company has become the Corporate Tyrant that he needs to bring down.... a CEO villain who takes Wayne Industries and begins to destroy Gotham.

People turn on eachother (riots)....

And Batman struggles to stop villains in an age of social media where every fucking person has a camera on them.

How can he remain hidden when there are professional Batman hunters tracking him everywhere he goes?

You need the right person playing the character, certainly.... but I think you also need to bring the Batman story into 2020 and play off ground-level fears people have, rather than trying to duplicate Marvel and go big, universe-spanning conflict, with a bad guy who is wildly overpowered and has legions of alien mercenaries to call upon.

If I was DC I'd keep the individual character movies closer to ground level and maybe look at a franchise series that explores how people with super powers try to solve modern human problems.
 

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Bash me all you want, Affleck was the best.

In a lot of aspects I agree.

The one thing the movies never really even tried to capture is how big Batman is supposed to be. I love Michael Keaton, but laughed myself silly at the thought he was going to bring the "Dark Knight" to life.

I think the only two actors to play the Batman that were over six feet tall are Ben Affleck and Adam West.
 

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I have never seen any of Patterson work. I assume he gets a lot of hate fromTwilight. I keep reading that people shouldnt sleep on him. He is a great actor. Im willing to give him a shot.

Same. I'm actually fine with all the casting -- Dano as the Riddler, Kravitz as Catwoman, etc. People said the same thing about Keaton when he was Batman, and he was great if not the best. I think Pattinson will do fine in the role, but that said, I'm really not excited about the movie as a whole. Judging from the preview, it's almost like a bunch of studio execs got into a room and said, "I know, let's make Batman even edgier!!" It just looks like a rehash of the Dark Knight, but darker. Kind of pointless if you ask me.
 

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I agree with the person above who said Ben Affleck has been the best personification of Bruce Wayne. I think he was the best Batman...the issue is that his movies sucked. Christian Bale was just ok but his movies were great
 

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I agree with the person above who said Ben Affleck has been the best personification of Bruce Wayne. I think he was the best Batman...the issue is that his movies sucked. Christian Bale was just ok but his movies were great

Ben Affleck movies in general just pretty much suck.

I mean he did the Goodwill Hunting movie, and was a bit player in a bunch of decent Kevin Smith stuff, but really....
 

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I agree with the person above who said Ben Affleck has been the best personification of Bruce Wayne. I think he was the best Batman...the issue is that his movies sucked. Christian Bale was just ok but his movies were great
Justice league was weak, but I thought batman vs superman was outstanding.
(Although- many years before filming began, Dwayne Johnson reportedly signed up for a DC movie. I was hoping beyond hope that he would play lex luthor.

Had they used him, that movie would have been amazing and the excitement would have carried over.
 

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Ben Affleck movies in general just pretty much suck.

I mean he did the Goodwill Hunting movie, and was a bit player in a bunch of decent Kevin Smith stuff, but really....
Argo was aight.
 

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Justice league was weak, but I thought batman vs superman was outstanding.
(Although- many years before filming began, Dwayne Johnson reportedly signed up for a DC movie. I was hoping beyond hope that he would play lex luthor.

Had they used him, that movie would have been amazing and the excitement would have carried over.
You liked Batman v Superman? I just didn't like the plot. The action was great, but that plot, to me, was really bad.
 

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"A darker Batman".....


Over and over and over, until it's so dark, you'll need a spotlight in the theater to see it.

DC needs to swing harder towards the original Batman. He doesn't have to be dated either. Just avoid the guy talking like he's always constipated and grumpy. Make Bruce Wayne an every-man more like Adam West's near-perfection. And adapt the comics more like the Animated Series, less like a team of bean counters and ad execs twisting plots to please zero-attention span test groups.

The bat is dark. You should lighten up.
 

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You liked Batman v Superman? I just didn't like the plot. The action was great, but that plot, to me, was really bad.

I did.
In the extended cut they did a better job of showing how luthor played them against each other.
The theatrical cut did a huge disservice to the story- playing luthor as more of a scatterbrained madman, which in turn made bats and superman look dumb for falling for luthors game.

Luthor was pretty crafty- providing bats with the weapon to kill supes and setting supes up to look responsible for allowing the capitol to get blown to hell.
There were a series of really critical actions luthor took to set them at each other- had the theatrical release done a better job of laying them out, the movie would have gotten a lot more love I think.
The only annoyance for me was how supes got bats to stop whooping his ass. That could have been done in a much better way.
 

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Ben Affleck movies in general just pretty much suck.

I mean he did the Goodwill Hunting movie, and was a bit player in a bunch of decent Kevin Smith stuff, but really....

Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms, yo
 

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But really, he was decent in Dazed and Confused, which is an awesome movie. Hell, even Gone Girl was pretty good. He's not the greatest actor, but I wouldn't say all his movies suck. Chasing Amy is another.
 

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Boiler Room Affleck is the only Affleck worth re-watching.
 

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Boiler Room Affleck is the only Affleck worth re-watching.

I would add Mallrats and Dazed & Confused Affleck.

Basically, Ben Affleck is at his best when he plays a gigantic asshole.
 

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I would add Mallrats and Dazed & Confused Affleck.

Basically, Ben Affleck is at his best when he plays a gigantic asshole.

When he's not acting.
 

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So we can agree that Affleck was part of a few decent films before he got massively famous....
 

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