The Cubs Hot Stove Action Thread

[DewsSox79]

maybe if the yanks are out of it they will want to shed ells salary and trade him for Darwin barney. lol

 

[waldo7239117]

maybe if the yanks are out of it they will want to shed ells salary and trade him for Darwin barney. lol

I would keep Barney over Ellsbury any day. That's a lopsided trade in favor of the Yanks. C'mon, Dewy! Use your brain!

 

[beckdawg]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/12/latest-on-the-posting-system-negotiations.html

NPB Officials Planning To Accept $20MM Maximum Posting Fee
By Aaron Steen [December 4 at 3:39pm CST]
WEDNESDAY: According to a Sanspo report passed along by Newman, NPB officials are planning to accept the $20MM maximum bid and the new posting rules (Twitter link).

TUESDAY, 4:50pm: NPB officials are amenable to the idea of a maximum bid, but not the amount which MLB has proposed, according to a Japanese report passed on by Patrick Newman of NPB Tracker (Twitter link). Major League officials are trying to impose a $20MM limit.

12:35am: MLB negotiators' latest proposal for the posting system would establish a maximum bid and include a provision prioritizing teams with low records, Sponichi reports (Japanese link). Under the plan, multiple teams could submit the maximum bid for a player, with negotiating rights going to the club that had the lowest winning precentage that year. Nippon Professional Baseball was scheduled to discuss the proposal in a meeting with the 12 NPB teams on Tuesday.

Last month, the two sides nearly reached an agreement that would have seen the Japanese team paid a posting fee equal to the midpoint between the top two bids. However, this arrangement was ultimately rejected by MLB because of opposition by small-market teams, which insisted that the posting fee be counted against the luxury tax.

As the article notes, this new proposal and its maximum bid could encourage greater participation among small-market teams. A marquee name like Masahiro Tanaka is all but off-limits for low-revenue clubs under the current system, which can require teams to pay more than $50MM just to get to the negotiating table. Small-market owners are therefore likely to drop their luxury tax-related demands if a scheme that gives priority to lower-ranking teams is on offer, Sponichi reports. However, winning teams are certain to oppose the plan because it would greatly reduce their chances of securing negotiating rights. It's also unclear how the proposal would be received by the 12 Japanese teams, whic

That would seem to favor the cubs though I'm not sure i'm reading it right. Think they need more detail.

 

[Boobaby1]

I don't care if the owners are losing money, it's still ridiculous. But the Yanks will be screwed at the end of it, especially with NTC.

And the Yankees could care less because they are trying to win, still making boatloads as everyone else is, and the kicker is, they will still put out at worst, a respectable ball club with a chance to make the playoffs.

Call it ridiculous or not, that is the going rate for players so with a mentality like that, don't expect the Cubs to ever sign ANYBODY!

 

[CSF77]

The first step is accept that the Ricketts are cheap in the 12 step recovering Cubs addict class.

 

[beckdawg]

6:04pm: While the maximum posting fee is $20MM, players are free to sign with any team that ties for the highest bid, Yahoo!'s Jeff Passan tweets. If that's the case, Passan points out, it will make Tanaka a de facto free agent, and he will likely receive a large contract.

This pretty much kills the yankee's chances since the MLB contract would actually count against the luxury tax. Doesn't kill other teams AFAIK though

 

[nwfisch]

 

[nwfisch]

This pretty much kills the yankee's chances since the MLB contract would actually count against the luxury tax. Doesn't kill other teams AFAIK though

The Yankees don't and shouldn't give a shit about the luxury tax. It should be about building a winner first, and worrying about profit later.

 

[brett05]

↑ this.

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[beckdawg]

The Yankees don't and shouldn't give a shit about the luxury tax. It should be about building a winner first, and worrying about profit later.

They actually do. They are 4 years over it and are paying a 50% penalty. If they duck under it for one year next year that goes to 17.5% IIRC. So, by saving money this year they can spend even more next year.

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2013/12...y-contract-yankees-mlb-luxury-tax-189-million

 

[beckdawg]

The Cubs have signed left-handed reliever Wesley Wright to a one-year deal believed to be for $1.425MM, tweets Bob Nightengale of USA Today. Wright was recently non-tendered by the Rays.


9.06 career k/9 1.50, 3.27, and 3.29 ERA the past 3 seasons.

 

[nwfisch]

The Cubs have signed left-handed reliever Wesley Wright to a one-year deal believed to be for $1.425MM, tweets Bob Nightengale of USA Today. Wright was recently non-tendered by the Rays.


9.06 career k/9 1.50, 3.27, and 3.29 ERA the past 3 seasons.

There we go. Championship in no time. Great work by both Theo and Jed Baseball :clap:

 

[beckdawg]

There we go. Championship in no time. Great work by both Theo and Jed Baseball :clap:

I don't really see what you get out of bashing every minor move the cubs make. I get you're not happy with the lack of big moves but A) the front office doesn't see this shit and B) it really just makes you look petty. It's hardly a bad move to sign a lefty arm for the pen who's been good the past couple of years. I guess I just don't get your motives here. Do you even get enjoyment out of complaining?

 

[waldo7239117]

And the Yankees could care less because they are trying to win, still making boatloads as everyone else is, and the kicker is, they will still put out at worst, a respectable ball club with a chance to make the playoffs.

Call it ridiculous or not, that is the going rate for players so with a mentality like that, don't expect the Cubs to ever sign ANYBODY!

I don't care if the Cubs hand out contracts like these to the right players. But he is not one. I would have gone 90 tops for Ellsbury.

 

[patg006]

I don't really see what you get out of bashing every minor move the cubs make. I get you're not happy with the lack of big moves but A) the front office doesn't see this shit and B) it really just makes you look petty. It's hardly a bad move to sign a lefty arm for the pen who's been good the past couple of years. I guess I just don't get your motives here. Do you even get enjoyment out of complaining?

0-4 with an ERA over 4 would make a team as pathetic as the Cubs ML roster look good, you got that right.

We want to see the cubs give a shit about the major league team. They clearly are not for the 3rd year in a row now.

 

[waldo7239117]

0-4 with an ERA over 4 would make a team as pathetic as the Cubs ML roster look good, you got that right.

We want to see the cubs give a shit about the major league team. They clearly are not for the 3rd year in a row now.

Wins loses don't matter and his era last season was 3.69.

 

[waldo7239117]

I don't really see what you get out of bashing every minor move the cubs make. I get you're not happy with the lack of big moves but A) the front office doesn't see this shit and B) it really just makes you look petty. It's hardly a bad move to sign a lefty arm for the pen who's been good the past couple of years. I guess I just don't get your motives here. Do you even get enjoyment out of complaining?

Exactly!

 

[SilenceS]

Wins loses don't matter and his era last season was 3.69.

Wins and losses don't matter? Im not really sure where your going with this. Yea, 69 wins and 71 wins aren't a big deal. but a 60 win team and a 80 win teams is huge. 80 wins mean you are probably a move or two away from taking your shot in the playoffs. 60 win team means "holy shit, we got a long ways to go".

 

[beckdawg]

0-4 with an ERA over 4 would make a team as pathetic as the Cubs ML roster look good, you got that right.

We want to see the cubs give a shit about the major league team. They clearly are not for the 3rd year in a row now.

His ERA was 3.69 last year.... 3.27 in 2012 and 1.50 in 2011.... but I mean if we're just gonna make shit up sure.

 

[beckdawg]

Wins and losses don't matter? Im not really sure where your going with this. Yea, 69 wins and 71 wins aren't a big deal. but a 60 win team and a 80 win teams is huge. 80 wins mean you are probably a move or two away from taking your shot in the playoffs. 60 win team means "holy shit, we got a long ways to go".

Think he mean W/L record of a relief pitcher. Typically RP's are more often in line for losses when they screw up than they are for wins because ideally you're ahead when they come in. So, the only time they really should get a decision is when they screw up. Additionally, they will often come into bad situations after a starter has lost his stuff for the day which can lead to big innings and losses as well.