The Matrix is getting a reboot

[Ares]

What character will Dwayne Johnson play?

Tank/Dozer's oldest brother nicknamed Megatron

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Directed by the Wachowskis?

Keanu Reeves said his only interest in coming back for anything Matrix related is if they are involved in the writing and directing.

 

[Houston]

Hollywood itself is severely lacking as far as good movie ideas go....

As opposed to when? When was Hollywood more creative with original content?

 

[number51]

Movies and shows are now all generally adapted from books because Hollywood writers cannot come up with good material on their own the majority of the time.

They are smart to use good stories from good writers.... but the point stands that Hollywood itself is severely lacking as far as good movie ideas go.... I cannot recall the last non-book or comic-book movie that I saw that was outstanding..... generally when I enjoy the movie I find out it came from a book.

I looked up Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay and got this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Original_Screenplay So I picked out a few I liked. I really don't care if it came from a book or is based on a true story. The 'Hollywood sucks' and that everything is a sequel or a re-boot narrative is just not true IMO. It might be where most of the big budgets go, but I also like small budget movies written for the screen like Memento. The notion there is no creativity in Hollywood is a lazy generalization, I'm not sure where Tarantino lives but that crazy ****** qualifies as creative in my world.

Saving Private Ryan
Good Will Hunting
Fargo
The Truman Show
American Beauty
Magnolia
The Sixth Sense
Almost Famous
Memento
Gangs of New York
Lost in Translation
In Bruges
The Hurt Locker
Inglourious Basterds
The King's Speech
The Fighter
Django Unchained
Zero Dark Thirty
American Hustle
Birdman
Nightcrawler
Ex Machina

 

[Ares]

As opposed to when? When was Hollywood more creative with original content?

Idk... you ask that like I said it once had a Golden Age of creativity and originality that I refused to specify the timeframe of.

Most of my life they have leaned on book stories.... someone older might remember a time when they didn't and debate you on this.

 

[Ares]

I looked up Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay and got this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Original_Screenplay So I picked out a few I liked. I really don't care if it came from a book or is based on a true story. The 'Hollywood sucks' and that everything is a sequel or a re-boot narrative is just not true IMO. It might be where most of the big budgets go, but I also like small budget movies written for the screen like Memento. The notion there is no creativity in Hollywood is a lazy generalization, I'm not sure where Tarantino lives but that crazy ****** qualifies as creative in my world.

Saving Private Ryan
Good Will Hunting
Fargo
The Truman Show
American Beauty
Magnolia
The Sixth Sense
Almost Famous
Memento
Gangs of New York
Lost in Translation
In Bruges
The Hurt Locker
Inglourious Basterds
The King's Speech
The Fighter
Django Unchained
Zero Dark Thirty
American Hustle
Birdman
Nightcrawler
Ex Machina

FTR I am not bitching about movies, I am not one of those "everything sucks" people.... I am specifically stating that Hollywood content is very dependent upon book writers handing them well written stories that they can adapt to the screen.

I think this is good for them as they can make good/great movies standing on the shoulders of truly creative minds who came up with the story or basis.

I don't recall a time when the majority of good/great movies were not based on books/comics, that is just my personal experience and my age.

And FTR Zero Dark Thirty was a historical event, that is not original by any means.... it was a good movie, but they didn't come up with that out of the blue, they told the story of a historical event.

Saving Private Ryan I will give because it took a historical setting and built a great story into it.... same with Inglorius Basterds

Hollywood comes up with some of its own gems on occasion, but the majority of their best movies are stories that have already been told in books, comics, history, etc.

 

[number51]

FTR I am not bitching about movies, I am not one of those "everything sucks" people.... I am specifically stating that Hollywood content is very dependent upon book writers handing them well written stories that they can adapt to the screen.

I think this is good for them as they can make good/great movies standing on the shoulders of truly creative minds who came up with the story or basis.

I don't recall a time when the majority of good/great movies were not based on books/comics, that is just my personal experience and my age.

And FTR Zero Dark Thirty was a historical event, that is not original by any means.... it was a good movie, but they didn't come up with that out of the blue, they told the story of a historical event.

Saving Private Ryan I will give because it took a historical setting and built a great story into it.... same with Inglorius Basterds

Hollywood comes up with some of its own gems on occasion, but the majority of their best movies are stories that have already been told in books, comics, history, etc.

I covered the historical events in my post.

I really don't care if it came from a book or is based on a true story.

The 'Hollywood sucks' reference was aimed at this:

how are book adaptations and comic book adaptations new ideas?

Hollywood sucks...

I respect your opinions on all things entertainment I just wanted to show that screenwriters are still generating some quality creative scripts. But like I said the source isn't a big deal as long as the film is good. I'm not arguing with you Ares, just showing that grand statements like 'Hollywood sucks' are weak and meaningless.

 

[ijustposthere]

Hopefully they remake Inglorious Basterds soon.

 

[Ares]

I covered the historical events in my post.



The 'Hollywood sucks' reference was aimed at this:



I respect your opinions on all things entertainment I just wanted to show that screenwriters are still generating some quality creative scripts. But like I said the source isn't a big deal as long as the film is good. I'm not arguing with you Ares, just showing that grand statements like 'Hollywood sucks' are weak and meaningless.

Gotcha.... and agree on Tarantino.... his stuff is what I wish we got more of in Hollywood writing.

 

[Ares]

Hopefully they remake Inglorious Basterds soon.

Or make a prequel of it

 

[Houston]

Idk... you ask that like I said it once had a Golden Age of creativity and originality that I refused to specify the timeframe of.

Most of my life they have leaned on book stories.... someone older might remember a time when they didn't and debate you on this.

So you have a statement, and not an argument? Ok.

 

[Ares]

So you have a statement, and not an argument? Ok.

I made a statement, you attempted to argue a point that I did not make in my statement.

Not sure what you are confused about here.

Be like if I said "Books are written on paper" and you replied "Oh as if there was a golden age of writing on other materials besides paper? What is a better thing to write on than paper?"

It is like the definition of opening up a Strawman argument.

 

[number51]

Hopefully they remake Inglorious Basterds soon.

They should spin off a CW TV show 'Bear Jew, The Adventures of Sgt. Donny Donowitz' starring Gabe Carimi.

 

[Aesopian]

Movies and shows are now all generally adapted from books because Hollywood writers cannot come up with good material on their own the majority of the time.

They are smart to use good stories from good writers.... but the point stands that Hollywood itself is severely lacking as far as good movie ideas go.... I cannot recall the last non-book or comic-book movie that I saw that was outstanding..... generally when I enjoy the movie I find out it came from a book.

It is smart. The book already has a massive fan base while it's still in production and you can save a crap load of money on advertising having fans arguing whether or not it will live up to the hype.

 

[Aesopian]

Make it into a Netflix TV series...

I like that idea but instead of a reboot I'd like to see a alternative point of view or maybe the people before Neo and the fallen chosen ones.

 

[Ares]

It is smart. The book already has a massive fan base while it's still in production and you can save a crap load of money on advertising having fans arguing whether or not it will live up to the hype.

Even book series that don't have enormous followings... if it is a good story it is a good story.

The Leftovers comes to mind, the 1st season was based on the 1st book and I had never heard of the writer nor his book before they made it into a show.

So I think often you can have good stories buried out there and a show version can bring a great story to light and benefit the writer and the story.

I had barely heard of George RR Martin and his A Song of Ice and Fire book series before it was turned into Game of Thrones the TV series and I am betting plenty of people are in the same boat.... they would never have picked up that series and read it or known anything about it until the exposure of the show let a wider audience know how good of a story Martin had written.

The Expanse on Syfy is a book series, I like the show, and again I had never heard of the book series before.... I may well wind up buying/reading it.

Using book stories is more smart because you know the story is good and well developed and has been firmed up through an editing/publishing process... and you can find demographics/reviews on people who like it even if it is just a sample size compared to the TV watching public. If it is a popular series with a decent sized fan base, even better.

 

[Aesopian]

Even book series that don't have enormous followings... if it is a good story it is a good story.

The Leftovers comes to mind, the 1st season was based on the 1st book and I had never heard of the writer nor his book before they made it into a show.

So I think often you can have good stories buried out there and a show version can bring a great story to light and benefit the writer and the story.

I had barely heard of George RR Martin and his A Song of Ice and Fire book series before it was turned into Game of Thrones the TV series and I am betting plenty of people are in the same boat.... they would never have picked up that series and read it or known anything about it until the exposure of the show let a wider audience know how good of a story Martin had written.

The Expanse on Syfy is a book series, I like the show, and again I had never heard of the book series before.... I may well wind up buying/reading it.

Using book stories is more smart because you know the story is good and well developed and has been firmed up through an editing/publishing process... and you can find demographics/reviews on people who like it even if it is just a sample size compared to the TV watching public. If it is a popular series with a decent sized fan base, even better.

I'm guessing that only a small percentage of people actually read books and discuss them with friends but the advertising from the people that do read would have a big ripple effect on people and I'd imagine and would bring in people that would probably only watch the show or movie.

 

[Aesopian]

"A Game of Thrones was released in 1996, and though it was not an instant bestseller, it brought in enough attention for the next two books to reach The New York Times weekly bestseller lists - A Clash of Kings in 1999 (Source), and A Storm of Swords in 2000 (Source). Fans had to wait five years for A Feast for Crows, and it went straight to the top of the bestseller lists when it was released in 2005 (Source). Millions of copies had been sold even before the show premiered.

The books received widespread acclaim, with GRRM being referred to as the "American Tolkien" in a 2005 Time article (Source). The first four books received a number of awards, including three Locus awards (out of four nominations), three Nebula nominations, and two Hugo nominations.

And finally, the concept of people asking GRRM to write faster also pre-dates the TV show, which saw him publish a message to his "detractors" way back in 2009:

After all, as some of you like to point out in your emails, I am sixty years old and fat, and you don't want me to "pull a Robert Jordan" on you and deny you your book.

Okay, I've got the message. You don't want me doing anything except A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE. Ever. (Well, maybe it's okay if I take a leak once in a while?)"

https://www.quora.com/How-popular-was-A-Song-of-Ice-and-Fire-before-HBO-released-the-show

 

[Aesopian]

Using book stories is more smart because you know the story is good and well developed and has been firmed up through an editing/publishing process... and you can find demographics/reviews on people who like it even if it is just a sample size compared to the TV watching public. If it is a popular series with a decent sized fan base, even better.

That is defiantly another advantage. Hollywood today get criticized for lack of ideas but even movies like Jurassic Park, The Godfather, Forrest Gump are all based on books.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

So what's their reasoning on giving neo a tan?