This is why you don’t make Thomas Brown the interim HC

[KittiesKorner]

Clowns! — Eberflus

Which, like, whatever

 

[Enasic]

Can guarantee George will never fire another coach in season ever again after this

Well hopefully they don’t hire another HC who actively loses games at a HoF level and George never has to make that decision again.

 

[Toast88]

Nah, better to get a free look at him as the HC now to save yourself a much bigger mistake in the future. The only reason for not doing it is if you were already out on him as a possible head coaching candidate.

If you were making a list of best HC candidates, Thomas Brown was never on the list.

 

[Toast88]

If he was the OC and they won some games so what?

Did you want him as the HC next year?

No. I wanted the offense to continue growing in a positive direction. Thomas Brown should’ve never been a legitimate top HC option, whether he was made interim or not.

He needed to continue to positively develop the offense leading into the next coaching staff.

 

[dbldrew]

No. I wanted the offense to continue growing in a positive direction. Thomas Brown should’ve never been a legitimate top HC option, whether he was made interim or not.

He needed to continue to positively develop the offense leading into the next coaching staff.

What you want and what George will do is completely different things.

Brown is a terrible HC, be happy he has shown this to George now rather then next year after he got a 5 year deal.. silver lining

 

[remydat]

What you want and what George will do is completely different things.

Brown is a terrible HC, be happy he has shown this to George now rather then next year after he got a 5 year deal.. silver lining

This is a faulty assumption given he only had 10 days to prepare. Most HC coaches are given an offseason and are allowed to run their own schemes not someone else's

All this time proved is Brown cannot turn a failing team around in 10 days and while trying to gameplan for opponents but we already knew that hence why it was best to let him stay as OC to focus on Caleb.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

I said this from the start but the mob wanted Flus gone. Now the D looks like ass without him and we getting blown out.

Wasnt fair to Caleb or Brown. There would have been no downside to letting Brown focus on Caleb and let Flus take the heat the rest of the season.

The players wanted flus gone

 

[remydat]

The players wanted flus gone

Correct and they were wrong as players often are. I would be inclined to agree with them if they hadnt gone out there and played like shit especially on defense. So this feels like letting the prisoners run the prison.

You wanted Flus gone. Fine. Now go out and prove you didnt need him. Except of course the D has failed miserably.

 

[94SupraTT]

Flus was as well. But at least it was more entertaining and Caleb was playing well.

If Flus was not fired we run the risk of them not firing him in the offseason. He had to go. This sucks but it highlights multiple issues. We can't assume anyone can come in and run the defense if they go with an offensive coach. We've seen not just anyone can do that. We also need to nail the head coach side. I think there was a belief that the D would be fine no matter who was at the helm. Clearly that is NOT the case.

I'm glad Flus is gone. We saw him save his job and it impacted Caleb a full season. We don't need Flu impacting him for2 season. Also, Poles is now exposed. His inattention to the line on both sides of the ball might be enough to get him fired.

 

[remydat]

If Flus was not fired we run the risk of them not firing him in the offseason. He had to go. This sucks but it highlights multiple issues. We can't assume anyone can come in and run the defense if they go with an offensive coach. We've seen not just anyone can do that. We also need to nail the head coach side. I think there was a belief that the D would be fine no matter who was at the helm. Clearly that is NOT the case.

I'm glad Flus is gone. We saw him save his job and it impacted Caleb a full season. We don't need Flu impacting him for2 season. Also, Poles is now exposed. His inattention to the line on both sides of the ball might be enough to get him fired.

No we did not run that risk because obviously if they fired him midseason they would have fired him end of season.

Only Bears fan meatballs thought the D would be fine no matter what but listening to meatballs rarely makes sense.

Caleb needed Brown's focus 100%. Even if they did fire Flus should have made Wash or Hightower HC. I mean we just saw the Jets fire Saleh and see the D play like shit so Poles and Warren should have known better.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Correct and they were wrong as players often are. I would be inclined to agree with them if they hadnt gone out there and played like shit especially on defense. So this feels like letting the prisoners run the prison.

You wanted Flus gone. Fine. Now go out and prove you didnt need him. Except of course the D has failed miserably.

Idt the players would have been so full on revolt if flus wasn’t always trying to pass the buck.

 

[remydat]

Idt the players would have been so full on revolt if flus wasn’t always trying to pass the buck.

I agree but the point is they were playing better when they were revolting so let them revolt. They appeased the players and the players repaid them by playing like ass. Hopefully lesson learned.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

I agree but the point is they were playing better when they were revolting so let them revolt. They appeased the players and the players repaid them by playing like ass. Hopefully lesson learned.

No argument here the entire defense has regressed

 

[94SupraTT]

No we did not run that risk because obviously if they fired him midseason they would have fired him end of season.

Only Bears fan meatballs thought the D would be fine no matter what but listening to meatballs rarely makes sense.

Caleb needed Brown's focus 100%. Even if they did fire Flus should have made Wash or Hightower HC. I mean we just saw the Jets fire Saleh and see the D play like shit so Poles and Warren should have known better.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. He has saved his job from the dead once and this organization would not surprise me if they held on the Flus if he had won 3 of his last 5 especially if Brown kept improving Caleb. Brown very likely could have saved Flus' job. That would have been a nightmare scenario.

 

[remydat]

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. He has saved his job from the dead once and this organization would not surprise me if they held on the Flus if he had won 3 of his last 5 especially if Brown kept improving Caleb. Brown very likely could have saved Flus' job. That would have been a nightmare scenario.

They were not winning 3 of the last 5 but agree to disagree.

 

[Runruffshod75]

Not everything has been Brown's fault, but he sure as shit didnt fix any of the mess he inherited.

I'm surprised that any of you thought that he could in the first place.

Had he stayed at OC and the offense had finished on a high note you guys and the media would have been pounding the table for him to be the next HC.

This team was going nowhere with with any variation of a Matt Eberflus led coaching staff.

There was a slight glimmer of hope that maybe Poles could build a roster with enough talent to win in spite of Eberflus heading into the 2024 offseason. Then Poles went full Special person in free agency and immediately squashed any hope of that happening.

Had the Bears offense finished trending upwards this franchise would have been more than obliged to hand over the 2025 HC reigns to Thomas Brown, and they would have had full support and drooling from every single fucktard in the legacy media in doing so.

At this point the best thing you can get out of this season is as close to or above the fifth pick in the draft as possible.

Free agency SUUUUCKS this year. This franchise needs to get the highest pick that it can to trade back with it and still maintain a fairly high first round pick.

There's a good chance the Bears dodged a bullet over any Thomas Brown HC aspirations for 2025.

 

[94SupraTT]

They were not winning 3 of the last 5 but agree to disagree.

I think we both want the same thing. We want Caleb's development to not be hindered. I would have preferred someone else take over as interim head coach specifically because Brown seemed to have Caleb turning a corner. Nothing would have prevented the Bears from interviewing Brown next off season even if he didn't fill in at HC. It was handled poorly.

I think they could have fired Flus, kept Brown where he was at and went with someone else at interim HC.

 

[mecha]

with the firing of Eberflus and promotion to head coach that's brought terrible results, Brown's time with the Bears is done after week 18. I'm not getting attached to the uptick in offensive performance I keep citing, that body of work was 3 games. there's no easy solution to the Bears problems this time around. I'm not a proponent for getting stuck in the coach/staff firing boot loop, but I think it's necessary this time. again.

 

[dbldrew]

This is a faulty assumption given he only had 10 days to prepare. Most HC coaches are given an offseason and are allowed to run their own schemes not someone else's

All this time proved is Brown cannot turn a failing team around in 10 days and while trying to gameplan for opponents but we already knew that hence why it was best to let him stay as OC to focus on Caleb.

did PFF tell you this?

 

[Toast88]

This is a faulty assumption given he only had 10 days to prepare. Most HC coaches are given an offseason and are allowed to run their own schemes not someone else's

All this time proved is Brown cannot turn a failing team around in 10 days and while trying to gameplan for opponents but we already knew that hence why it was best to let him stay as OC to focus on Caleb.