Time to Trade Teuvo

[HawkWriter]

This past offseason the Blackhawks floated TT + Bickell + more for JVR. Bickell's contract was the big issue and the Blackhawks were still figuring out some cap issues.

No one is stating that the Blackhawks should trade TT just to trade him, that he doesn't belong in the NHL, or that the Blackhawks should trade him for a rental player. Simply put though, I think the Blackhawks should consider it if they can make the money work and get a player like JVR, look at Drouin, or a few others out there. I just don't see the high end future for TT that a lot of people out there do.

 

[Tater]

This past offseason the Blackhawks floated TT + Bickell + more for JVR. Bickell's contract was the big issue and the Blackhawks were still figuring out some cap issues.

No one is stating that the Blackhawks should trade TT just to trade him, that he doesn't belong in the NHL, or that the Blackhawks should trade him for a rental player. Simply put though, I think the Blackhawks should consider it if they can make the money work and get a player like JVR, look at Drouin, or a few others out there. I just don't see the high end future for TT that a lot of people out there do.

This ^^^
Thanks for putting this into words, people are freaking out over just the suggestion of a move.

 

[ClydeLee]

This past offseason the Blackhawks floated TT + Bickell + more for JVR. Bickell's contract was the big issue and the Blackhawks were still figuring out some cap issues.

No one is stating that the Blackhawks should trade TT just to trade him, that he doesn't belong in the NHL, or that the Blackhawks should trade him for a rental player. Simply put though, I think the Blackhawks should consider it if they can make the money work and get a player like JVR, look at Drouin, or a few others out there. I just don't see the high end future for TT that a lot of people out there do.

If you want solutions that fit with Q abd help the team all around, JVR isn't gonna be the option and Drouin could do it if he produced enough

That the Hawks were floating it out sounds like a jj quality rumor

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[HawkWriter]

If you want solutions that fit with Q abd help the team all around, JVR isn't gonna be the option and Drouin could do it if he produced enough

That the Hawks were floating it out sounds like a jj quality rumor

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Not a rumor that I particularly saw on the internet (possible it made the rounds), heard it from a buddy of mine within the organization. Can take it for what its worth. I do think JVR would help the team out on the LW and he comes at a decently cheap price with 2 years remaining on his contract.

 

[HawkWriter]

Here's a question - and I think this thread is a good place to ask it...

Who is more important to the Blackhawks winning (now and in the future) - Shaw or TT?

 

[winos5]

They're both good players. Neither is a "core" player. If a trade makes the Blackhawks better you do it. For the record I like both of them and would prefer they stick around.

 

[DMelt36]

Right now? Probably Shaw, especially when you consider he's played over 300 games and Teuvo is yet to crack 100.

Future? Teuvo by a mile.

 

[fatbeard]

No one is stating that the Blackhawks should trade TT just to trade him, that he doesn't belong in the NHL, or that the Blackhawks should trade him for a rental player. Simply put though, I think the Blackhawks should consider it if they can make the money work and get a player like JVR, look at Drouin, or a few others out there. I just don't see the high end future for TT that a lot of people out there do.

The title of the thread is "Time to Trade Teuvo" and the original post makes no qualifications about what the Blackhawks should get in return for TT, only that he lacks the meatball of Shaw and should be moved because of it. So when you say "No one is stating that the Blackhawks should trade TT just to trade him," I'm scratching my head because that is exactly what has been stated.

 

[PapaMammoo]

TT has done nothing thus far to justify all the high hopes. How many guys on all Chicago teams have failed to measure up to the hype. Gordon Beckham on my beloved White Sox immediately comes to mind. The Sox were besieged with offers early on but banked on his potential. The rest, as they say, is history.

I hope TT becomes a star. I just don't see it in him.

 

[ClydeLee]

TT has done nothing thus far to justify all the high hopes. How many guys on all Chicago teams have failed to measure up to the hype. Gordon Beckham on my beloved White Sox immediately comes to mind. The Sox were besieged with offers early on but banked on his potential. The rest, as they say, is history.

I hope TT becomes a star. I just don't see it in him.

the relevant connection there is quite mysterious

Unless he's part of a trade that gets you someone with "justified high hopes" or something of that nature, the idea of a trade is nonsense at this point. Unless it's for Drouin there isn't many a player on the presumed trade market with more justification for high hopes at 23 under across the league. Guys like Drouin or Galgenyuck have skill yet Teuvo is already a much better smart-2way minded guy on the ice. His mental skills are what is the "hype" driver that I guess is what you are not seeing.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Right now? Probably Shaw, especially when you consider he's played over 300 games and Teuvo is yet to crack 100.

Future? Teuvo by a mile.

The other question is what would each respective player command in a trade opportunity.
I really think Shaw could get dealt in the offseason before his RFA deal becomes an issue. I don't think the Hawks are willing to pay what he may be commanding.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

This also worries me about next year, especially if certain contracts cannot be moved by puck drop of 2016-17.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

^^^^^ Thanks Bickell​

 

[Raskolnikov]

Yeah...that makes me think Bowman doesn't view our current cap as actual room. Bigfoot is banished unless Panarin goes down, cuz his game ain't gonna fall apart. And we probably won't make a trade for a salary without losing one.

If negotiations are bad with Shaw, and you can bring in a legit 1LW, or hell, maybe we can afford to lose Hammer or Seabrooke, but thats fucking blasphemy. I think we have to bring up Dano and take our shot with what we got. SUPERstars and youth. ENGINE FIRE and NUCLEAR POWER!

 

[fatbeard]

TT has done nothing thus far to justify all the high hopes.

Did you watch last year's SCF with your eyes closed and the TV on mute?

 

[DMelt36]

TT has done nothing thus far to justify all the high hopes. How many guys on all Chicago teams have failed to measure up to the hype. Gordon Beckham on my beloved White Sox immediately comes to mind. The Sox were besieged with offers early on but banked on his potential. The rest, as they say, is history.

I hope TT becomes a star. I just don't see it in him.

This is where I'd highly encourage you to re-watch the third period of Game 1 in last year's Cup Final. Gordon Beckham never did anything that impressive on that big of a stage. And this comes from a long, longtime Gordon Beckham apologist.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

This is where I'd highly encourage you to re-watch the third period of Game 1 in last year's Cup Final. Gordon Beckham never did anything that impressive on that big of a stage. And this comes from a long, longtime Gordon Beckham apologist.

At some point it could be time to get off that band wagon. :shrug:

 

[Milky]

Teuvo is a good young piece. HE'S STILL DEVELOPING!!

Not all players develop at the same rate. This is his 1st full-time NHL season and he's already playing STs. The kid has skill but it may take him a year or two to put it all together. I say revisit this issue next year or maybe the next and if he still isn't the player we had hoped then make a move.

For now he's playing ok.

Hossa's 1st full year
GP: 60- 15G -15A -30P

Teuvo
GP: 57- 10G -15A -25P

My point is I think are expecting too much too fast from Teuvo. Not that he's a future HOFer.


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[DMelt36]

Teuvo is a good young piece. HE'S STILL DEVELOPING!!

Not all players develop at the same rate. This is his 1st full-time NHL season and he's already playing STs. The kid has skill but it may take him a year or two to put it all together. I say revisit this issue next year or maybe the next and if he still isn't the player we had hoped then make a move.

For now he's playing ok.

Hossa's 1st full year
GP: 60- 15G -15A -30P

Teuvo
GP: 57- 10G -15A -25P

My point is I think are expecting too much too fast from Teuvo. Not that he's a future HOFer.


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Teuvo is future Hossa. Boom.

 

[The Hawk]

Teuvo is a good young piece. HE'S STILL DEVELOPING!!

Not all players develop at the same rate. This is his 1st full-time NHL season and he's already playing STs. The kid has skill but it may take him a year or two to put it all together. I say revisit this issue next year or maybe the next and if he still isn't the player we had hoped then make a move.

For now he's playing ok.

Hossa's 1st full year
GP: 60- 15G -15A -30P

Teuvo
GP: 57- 10G -15A -25P

My point is I think are expecting too much too fast from Teuvo. Not that he's a future HOFer.


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I agree. Very few Panarins come along and play so well immediately. We see glimpses of excellence from Teuvo and then are disappointed when he doesn't keep it up consistently. I just don't give up on young players like this because IF they figure things out you have yourself a stud for many years. He could fail to mature into a good player. One never knows but in terms of natural ability, he has it.