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^^^The last part right on. Look he as a stiff neck because of taking contact. I think when he got hit in the head the game before in OT.
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It'd be nice if he got those touch fouls that guys like Wade and Kobe get. Then he'd have all the FT attempts in the world with none of the contact. xD
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nah the bulls email said he slept wrong
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OK, but it could have some affects from it. I just hope he plays today! It's more fun to watch the game when he plays, but it's still fun to watch if he doesn't.
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yeah if he & taj play we win easy
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You think Rose is a "finesse player"? Not at all, his game is built on speed and power. Watching him night in and night out manhandle some of the point guards in this league, finesse is the last thing that comes to mind...he doesn't sell contact, saying he doesn't take it after watching him get knocked on his ass as much as he has over the past season...he definitely takes contact...and he is fearless...ask Dwight Howard.
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Taking this to be true, you can only imagine how many points Rose would have now if he would get the calls that other stars get. The way he can finish THROUGH contact, the number of and 1's he could get are astounding. Rose could very well get 10-14 FTA's a game if he knew he could get calls. Regardless, Rose isn't getting nearly enough calls for the amount of contact he takes. Yes, he needs to sell it more, but still sometimes he just gets robbed.
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Im not sold on Watson yet. Sure he had a great game last night but how long could he keep that up for. Plus he takes a ridiculous amount of shots.
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the first week watson played, i was down on him. After that i accepted that we just went from a 9 million dollar player to a 3 million dollar player. For what we're paying him and what we're getting out of him, i have no qualms over watson whatsoever. No the guy isn't a starting pg, but he's a damn good back up. i'll take him over carlos arroyo and nate rob any day of the week.
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He took a lot fewer shots on the Warriors, I'm assuming he takes a lot of shots because he's been told to.
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The difference between Rose and a guy like Watson is that Rose has the ability to elevate and adjust his shot in midair. All of the different ways that he can put the ball in the basket is more about his ability to stay balanced while making those acrobatic moves while contorting his body and using the defender for balance. Those are definitely attributes characterized by the word "finesse."
His speed and quickness is what helps him get by his defender. His power helps him split defenders. His power also helps him keep a center of gravity while in the air. Rose knows how to keep his shoulders square better than most guys I have seen. But I wouldn't say that his power is his big defining characteristic as a basketball player. He is definitely too strong for most other point guards, but it is his slight of hand that makes him the player that he is... the strong upper body is only an extra scoop of gravy on that meat and potatoes.
In the Bulls' last two games against Orlando, Rose was injured going right at Dwight Howard. They were both rather hard fouls, but Rose has shown that he doesn't know how to fall the right way. It may sound silly, but there is a right and wrong way to land if you are an attacking player who is falling down. Ask Shaun Livingston about that...
Dwight is a beast. And Rose is fearless. But that doesn't mean that he doesn't have a finesse approach to finishing around the basket and getting open looks in general.
His bag of tricks is what enables him to utilize his speed and power. The guy just needs to sell contact better at times. It has little to-do with getting superstar calls. Guys like Corey Maggette and even C.J. Watson know how to get to the line using a series of fakes and spin moves. That is one thing Rose could certainly add to his arsenal. I would agree that sometimes Rose gets short-ended on calls because of his strength (sometimes he just doesn't move when he gets hit and the officials don't call it). But he should sell those hits a lot better than he does.
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What do you mean by "slight of hand"?
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What I mean by that is he knows how to fool a defender(s). He knows how to read his man to cross over players or create space. He is also extraordinarily coordinated while he's in midair.
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Even though I don't have the time to go back and read most of the posts in this thread, I'm just going to give my 2 cents on Watson.
He's a good player when he's given the oppurtunity to play (As we all know). Backing up one of the best point guards in the league is hard to do and I give C.J credit for not complaining.
He's a good player when he's given the oppurtunity to play (As we all know). Backing up one of the best point guards in the league is hard to do and I give C.J credit for not complaining.