Toews named finalist for Selke Trophy

[Ton]

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Bergeron is pretty fucking good... it's not east coast bias with him, he really is that good.</p>


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Do you guys even watch any other team besides the Hawks?</p>
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No one said he sucks. But, theres no way he deserves the Selke over Toews. Last year, yeah... this year, I think it's Toews.</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

AT BEST a toss up.</p>


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I know postseason play doesn't count towards award voting.  But most people watch postseason games over regular season.</p>


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Watch how sick Bergeron was against the Leafs.  Better yet, watch his back pressure on the Rangers tonight, it was suffocating.</p>


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Guy is fucking amazing.</p>

 

[the canadian dream]

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Bergeron is pretty fucking good... it's not east coast bias with him, he really is that good.</p>


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Do you guys even watch any other team besides the Hawks?</p>
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oh oh me me me I do!!</p>


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Again look at the stats Toews kills him in nearly every category...KILLS. Except hits and face off percentage. Its not about Bergeron being good..its about Toews being better. Toews had a better season on the ice and on the stat sheets in nearly all defensive categories!!! Big ones being take aways..Toews doubled him...DOUBLED!!</p>


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I think people will be shocked when Bergeron doesn't win it just as I will be shocked if Toews doesn't.</p>


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Also? Who fucking cares.</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Stats don't tell the whole story.</p>

 

[PatrickShart]

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Stats don't tell the whole story.</p>
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Exactly.  Takeaways, Faceoff wins are HIGHLY over-rated when talking about a defensive player. As well as the effect on the teams over all defense.</p>


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Should be Sutter, Bergeron, and McClement....he was key for Toronto.</p>

 

[the canadian dream]

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Stats don't tell the whole story.</p>
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No shit sherlock that's why I said I watch the games. Bergeron was not better than Toews this year as a defensive forward. Toews dominated the game as a defensive forward this season. DOMINATED!!! </p>


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Exactly.  Takeaways, Faceoff wins are HIGHLY over-rated when talking about a defensive player. As well as the effect on the teams over all defense.</p>


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Should be Sutter, Bergeron, and McClement....he was key for Toronto.</p>
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You okay PMX? A high take away number pretty much mean a guy is always in position and always in lanes...always forechecking..always rushing the puck carrier and always in the play. Toews are also high because of the PK domination..another area in which he raped Bergeron in this season.</p>


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I want to fist fight you so bad right now. What "stat" screams defence to you?</p>


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im usually not wrapped in Hawks bias when it comes to individual awards but this time I am because pffffttttt Bergeron.</p>

 

[Ton]

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Exactly.  Takeaways, Faceoff wins are HIGHLY over-rated when talking about a defensive player. As well as the effect on the teams over all defense.</p>


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Should be Sutter, Bergeron, and McClement....he was key for Toronto.</p>
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Lol, I laughed so hard when Toronto was seriously saying that Jay McClement should be a Selke finalist this year.</p>

 

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LOL..right?  If that's the case...so should Kruger</p>

 

[the canadian dream]

ANSWER ME PMX YOU DAMN IGNORAMUS!!</p>


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I know my higher hockey IQ intimidates you but at some point you gotta step out from behind the visor and face me eye to eye.</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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ANSWER ME PMX YOU DAMN IGNORAMUS!!

 

I know my higher hockey IQ intimidates you but at some point you gotta step out from behind the visor and face me eye to eye.</p></blockquote>


How about facing you eye to Babcock?