Trubisky is 8th in QBR

[Toast88]

Trubisky is doing better to this point, numbers-wise, than Goff was at this point last year. Below is a cadre of stats, sorted by Passer Rating (in which Trubisky's 14th). Below that is purely the QBR, in which Trubisky's 8th.


Passer Rating Leaders - Qualified

RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G

1 Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB TB 98 144 68.1 1,550 10.76 75 13 5 8 119.3 310

2 Drew Brees, QB NO 188 243 77.4 1,990 8.19 62 14 1 9 118.2 284

3 Philip Rivers, QB LAC 152 220 69.1 2,008 9.13 75 17 3 9 117.8 287

4 Patrick Mahomes, QB KC 187 285 65.6 2,526 8.86 75 26 6 10 115.3 316

5 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 187 263 71.1 2,335 8.88 75 15 2 20 114.2 334

6 Russell Wilson, QB SEA 120 182 65.9 1,556 8.55 66 16 4 21 112.8 222

7 Jared Goff, QB LAR 171 253 67.6 2,425 9.59 70 17 5 17 112.5 303

8 Carson Wentz, QB PHI 159 225 70.7 1,788 7.95 58 13 2 21 109.6 298

9 Kirk Cousins, QB MIN 241 341 70.7 2,521 7.39 75 16 4 23 102.5 315

10 Aaron Rodgers, QB GB 174 284 61.3 2,283 8.04 75 13 1 22 100.4 326

11 Tom Brady, QB NE 170 250 68.0 1,876 7.50 55 16 7 9 99.7 268

12 Matthew Stafford, QB DET 171 253 67.6 1,912 7.56 67 14 6 13 98.5 273

13 Deshaun Watson, QB HOU 168 261 64.4 2,176 8.34 73 15 7 26 98.4 272

14 Mitchell Trubisky, QB CHI 155 240 64.6 1,814 7.56 70 15 6 16 97.8 259

15 Cam Newton, QB CAR 158 238 66.4 1,646 6.92 51 13 4 10 97.4 235

16 Andrew Luck, QB IND 225 342 65.8 2,187 6.40 42 23 8 10 96.2 273

17 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 194 297 65.3 2,290 7.71 75 14 7 10 94.5 327

18 Derek Carr, QB OAK 188 261 72.0 2,027 7.77 66 10 8 17 94.5 290

19 Brock Osweiler, QB MIA 75 117 64.1 895 7.65 75 6 3 6 93.8 224

20 Ryan Tannehill, QB MIA 85 129 65.9 972 7.54 75 8 5 11 92.9 194

21 Andy Dalton, QB CIN 185 292 63.4 2,102 7.20 49 17 8 16 92.9 263

22 Alex Smith, QB WSH 144 228 63.2 1,561 6.85 52 8 2 13 91.3 223

23 Eli Manning, QB NYG 215 315 68.3 2,377 7.55 58 8 6 31 90.9 297

24 Dak Prescott, QB DAL 128 206 62.1 1,417 6.88 64 8 4 23 87.4 202

25 Joe Flacco, QB BAL 209 342 61.1 2,259 6.61 71 12 6 14 84.9 282

26 Case Keenum, QB DEN 184 288 63.9 2,110 7.33 64 10 10 22 83.0 264

27 C.J. Beathard, QB SF 102 169 60.4 1,252 7.41 82 8 7 18 81.8 209

28 Blake Bortles, QB JAX 175 290 60.3 2,021 6.97 67 10 8 18 81.4 253

29 Baker Mayfield, QB CLE 130 223 58.3 1,471 6.60 59 8 6 20 78.9 245

30 Marcus Mariota, QB TEN 99 150 66.0 1,030 6.87 51 3 5 19 78.5 172

31 Jameis Winston, QB TB 96 148 64.9 1,181 7.98 60 6 10 13 74.7 295

32 Sam Darnold, QB NYJ 138 250 55.2 1,705 6.82 76 11 10 17 74.5 213

33 Josh Rosen, QB ARI 94 169 55.6 1,072 6.34 75 5 6 16 69.9 179

34 Josh Allen, QB BUF 75 139 54.0 832 5.99 57 2 5 21 61.8 139


Source: http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating


RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR

1 Patrick Mahomes, KC 43.6 49.9 7.9 2.3 63.1 351 85.3 83.6

2 Drew Brees, NO 31.6 40.4 3.0 1.9 50.9 278 83.3 82.0

3 Philip Rivers, LAC 23.9 31.5 0.3 0.4 36.3 250 79.4 79.8

4 Ryan Fitzpatrick, TB 17.1 21.0 2.6 0.4 26.8 174 80.1 78.7

5 Jared Goff, LAR 25.9 37.6 0.4 3.3 47.7 306 76.8 75.8

6 Tom Brady, NE 20.0 29.0 2.7 1.9 37.3 279 73.3 74.2

7 Matt Ryan, ATL 26.5 32.4 6.3 3.2 52.4 320 76.3 72.3

8 Mitchell Trubisky, CHI 20.4 16.9 16.7 2.1 43.4 313 71.6 72.0

9 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 22.4 36.7 5.2 2.5 48.3 344 71.6 69.8

10 Andrew Luck, IND 17.8 37.2 2.2 2.2 46.3 395 65.4 66.2

11 Kirk Cousins, MIN 17.7 37.7 -2.5 0.6 44.6 400 65.2 65.8

12 Carson Wentz, PHI 13.6 19.1 4.3 2.6 35.7 284 66.3 65.1

13 Cam Newton, CAR 13.6 26.8 8.0 -1.0 37.8 324 64.5 63.1

14 Andy Dalton, CIN 15.7 30.3 -0.4 3.8 42.4 346 65.5 62.7

15 Deshaun Watson, HOU 11.1 20.7 4.9 1.9 38.5 353 60.9 60.4

16 Matthew Stafford, DET 6.3 17.0 2.2 2.4 26.7 292 57.6 58.9

17 Russell Wilson, SEA 5.4 18.3 -2.7 -0.9 22.8 230 58.2 58.9

18 Aaron Rodgers, GB 3.7 10.7 7.6 0.1 28.4 341 53.8 57.6

19 Joe Flacco, BAL 10.4 28.1 2.9 2.9 39.2 394 59.2 56.7

20 Jameis Winston, TB 7.0 6.3 7.3 1.7 19.8 190 62.7 56.1

21 Marcus Mariota, TEN -0.1 4.4 4.1 2.1 18.3 214 49.9 54.8

22 Dak Prescott, DAL 1.9 4.4 10.0 1.0 24.2 288 52.4 54.4

23 Blake Bortles, JAX 0.4 11.4 8.3 -1.1 25.1 357 50.3 52.0

24 Alex Smith, WSH 4.6 17.4 1.5 2.2 25.8 295 55.5 50.8

25 Derek Carr, OAK 2.5 15.5 2.4 1.2 27.2 317 52.8 50.6

26 Case Keenum, DEN -8.4 5.4 1.7 1.6 19.0 343 41.4 43.5

27 C.J. Beathard, SF -6.5 1.3 1.5 0.2 11.7 218 39.7 43.2

28 Eli Manning, NYG -8.8 6.2 1.2 0.8 20.6 376 41.8 40.4

29 Josh Rosen, ARI -7.6 0.5 1.8 1.6 8.8 205 37.1 38.1

30 Baker Mayfield, CLE -9.8 1.2 0.9 1.3 12.9 268 37.4 36.1

31 Sam Darnold, NYJ -13.3 7.8 -1.4 -0.5 12.0 307 35.2 35.2

32 Ryan Tannehill, MIA -7.6 -0.7 1.9 0.6 6.6 167 34.5 32.3

33 Josh Allen, BUF -13.3 -7.4 4.9 0.2 3.8 209 28.9 30.0


Something is buoying Trubisky's QBR compared to his passer rating. Some people here know a lot more about what all the QBR emphasizes, but my guess would be his running ability and him taking care of the ball pretty well this year turnover-wise help contribute to his QBR being noticeably higher than his passer rating.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Imagine if they showed up the last two weeks.

They're still in 1st place irregardlessly. Losses happen.

 

[Bearly]

QBR?

 

[Zion]

They're still in 1st place irregardlessly. Losses happen.

did you purposefully use the word 'irregardlessly' to trap grammar nerds into pointing out how that's not a word?

 

[WookieOnRitalin]

imagine if our DEFENSE didn't show up today right? otherwise those 2 or 3 bad series in a roll might have totally fazed him

Welcome to the team sport of football where it usually helps if both sides of the ball tend to do their part.

 

[mecha]

Moving mountains is firing Lovie Smith/John Fox and getting an offensive mind as head coach and developing an offensive philosophy. Moving mountains is not trading Greg Olson, not making Devin Hester a No.1 receiver, hiring retreads and never was as OCs, having Carimi, Webb and Chris Williams as Offensive tackles. Moving mountains is geting Khalil Mack, Roquan Smith and Allen Robertson in one off season.

this. the Bears were a catastrophic dumpster fire in the front office and coaches during the Cutler years, not because of him. he didn't help his case, but no elite quarterback would've been successful with second rate receivers, trash offensive line, 1970s playcalling. about the only things that worked out was dumping Benson in 2008 to acquire Forte and getting talented psychos in Marshall and Bennett and enough motivation for emo Jeffery to string together good receiving for ONE year. that's Super Bowl XLI to this offseason.

anyone continuing to discount Ryan Pace and Mitch Trubisky at this point clearly don't get it or are troll shitheads.

 

[Zion]

Mitchel has thrown more TD's than Aaron Rodgers


Put that in your pipe and smoke it

 

[mecha]

Mitchel has thrown more TD's than Aaron Rodgers


Put that in your pipe and smoke it

if he reaches 4000 yards and 32 TDs on the season... just wow

 

[Midway Monsters]

Trubisky is a great psychological lesson in perception vs reality. It’s all about first impressions and context.

Imagine how excited people would have been if Cutler was rated this high after 8 weeks of a season. Maybe he was once (2011) before the thumb but probably never again.

The thing is he was brought in with so much optimism and excitement that people rationalized his sorry ass play for years. With Trubisky he was brought in on a public negative, a “fleece”, so for him to get the benefit of the doubt he needs to be Aaron Rodgers.

It’s fun to watch the reactions.

This is so true. Jason Lacanfora has been pretty silent lately about Trubisky but I don’t expect him to acknowledge any of his good games until he wins multiple Super Bowls. There are guys on these boards like that too. They will remain silent but one bad game or mistake and they come out of the woodwork.

 

[mecha]

This is so true. Jason Lacanfora has been pretty silent lately about Trubisky but I don’t expect him to acknowledge any of his good games until he wins multiple Super Bowls. There are guys on these boards like that too. They will remain silent but one bad game or mistake and they come out of the woodwork.

see my point about troll shitheads above.

 

[modo]

If someone told us at the beginning of the season that by week 8 the Bears would be in first place and Trubisky would have more TDs than Aaron Rodgers, while playing one less game and less INTs than Tom Brady this place would have been doing handstands......

instead....

 

[Toast88]

Trubisky is a great psychological lesson in perception vs reality. It’s all about first impressions and context.

Imagine how excited people would have been if Cutler was rated this high after 8 weeks of a season. Maybe he was once (2011) before the thumb but probably never again.

The thing is he was brought in with so much optimism and excitement that people rationalized his sorry ass play for years. With Trubisky he was brought in on a public negative, a “fleece”, so for him to get the benefit of the doubt he needs to be Aaron Rodgers.

It’s fun to watch the reactions.

I wish I could thank this more than once. Trubisky is absolutely playing like one of the better quarterbacks in the league at this point, and the stats bear that out. But accuracy issues and last year's anemic stats continue to contribute to the perception of him as a guy who's playing just O.K., albeit improved.

He's having a better season than Goff was last year. He's the quarterback of a first place team. And as others have pointed out, even in pure passer rating, not even QBR, he's out-statsing mainstay names like Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, Andrew Luck, Andy Dalton, etc. He's going to finish stats-wise with a GREAT season for a second-year quarterback.


Guys, I've got some news for you. Trubisky isn't *going to be* good. He *is* good. And he'll only grow and get better as he gets his accuracy patched up, learns to find the open guy instead of running so quickly, etc.

 

[dweebs19]

All those guys have been objectively better than Mitch. Don't @ me with stats. Stats tell me nothing.

lol....great argument. You sound like a redneck trumptard who denies facts and knowledge

 

[Rory Sparrow]

Trubisky is a great psychological lesson in perception vs reality. It’s all about first impressions and context.

Imagine how excited people would have been if Cutler was rated this high after 8 weeks of a season. Maybe he was once (2011) before the thumb but probably never again.

The thing is he was brought in with so much optimism and excitement that people rationalized his sorry ass play for years. With Trubisky he was brought in on a public negative, a “fleece”, so for him to get the benefit of the doubt he needs to be Aaron Rodgers.

It’s fun to watch the reactions.

I don't think that's the case at all. It has nothing to do with perception/reality. Trubisky is currently 14th in passer rating, which is middle-of-the-pack, which is where Cutler would end up in the rankings if he didn't have a 'meltdown' season.

For whatever reason, people always expected Cutler to improve. He never did. He was a journeyman QB. Similarly, if this is as good as Trubisky will ever be, then his career will probably mirror Cutler's career...good enough to remain in the NFL, but never accomplishing anything notable.

To me, the difference in "perception" is that we had multiple seasons of evidence that Cutler was no better than mediocre, whereas we still think that Trubisky can improve. Hence the 'excitement'.

 

[casinnova]

all QBs have bad series and halfs -defense was better but not great - I saw Rodgers miss on a bunch of passes today not to name other QBs

And Brees is no good when pressured cuz he threw his first pick of the season.... (DERP)

 

[TL1961]

I like Trubisky but I cant help but think what Nagy and Pace could have done with Jay Cutler if they got him at 25 when the Bears acquired him at 2009. Trubisky has great stats but honestly he is closer to RG3 than Aaron Rodgers right now. Cutler was a better pure passer at the same age. Trubisky misses a lot of throws and would rather run than read right now. I just hope he does not get hurt before he develops.

With all due respect, I can’t understand why that “What if” thinking would ever come up.

I look at the current situation and project forward. What can this coach do with this qb, system, etc. Where do we solidify the roster next ?

Looking back to the Cutler years is never a thought. For once we can look forward.

 

[TL1961]

If someone told us at the beginning of the season that by week 8 the Bears would be in first place and Trubisky would have more TDs than Aaron Rodgers, while playing one less game and less INTs than Tom Brady this place would have been doing handstands......

instead....

Bingo.

Except substitute “Bears’ QB” for “Trubisky” because so many will never acknowledge he plays well. They didn’t like the trade up and loved Watson because Clemson had a great roster, so they can’t be objective.

 

[WindyCity]

He has been good.

He just has not been consistent. I think the critics at this point admit that he has talent and he can put up numbers, but it is the lack of consistency that has people put off or upset.

He was having bad halves, against the Jets he had a bad quarter. That is improved consistency.

 

[WindyCity]

If someone told us at the beginning of the season that by week 8 the Bears would be in first place and Trubisky would have more TDs than Aaron Rodgers, while playing one less game and less INTs than Tom Brady this place would have been doing handstands......

instead....

I would have sold my soul.

 

[Rory Sparrow]

I would have sold my soul.

Not really saying much